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This WP:WSS subpage is for discoveries of stub templates not cleared by WikiProject Stub sorting which have been encountered on Wikipedia. Stubs that have been put on the official stub type list without discussion on this page or /Proposals should be listed here as well. If you discover such a stub type, please list it at the top of this page along with any relevant details. Do not enter it on the stub type list until it has been discussed here to determine whether it should be kept or proposed for deletion at Categories for Deletion.


To check whether a stub type has been discussed in the past, click on either the template or category link and select "What links here" from the toolbox on the left (set it to find only items in the Wikipedia space). Find the link to a WikiProject Stub sorting page such as Deletion or Proposals to see if there has been any discussion on this type previously. Checking the template or category's history link may also indicate whether the stub type is part of a larger group discussion at WP:WSS/P. Note: If possible, check both the template and the category, in case one has been discussed but not the other.

If the stub category or template has not been proposed, and is not clearly an inappropriate or deletable type, list it here under a separate heading at the top of the list for the month of discovery. Please also consider notifying the creator of the stub type by subst'ing {{wssdnotify}} on their user talk page.

If a stub type is of a clearly inappropriate or deletable type, it may be taken to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. Again, in this case, the creator of the stub type should be notified, this time by substing {{cfd-notify}} onto their user talk page.

March 2017[edit]

Cleroidea stubs[edit]

I've found {{Cleroidea-stub}} (34 transclusions) which doesn't use {{asbox}}, and Category:Cleroidea stubs (35 members) which doesn't use either {{WPSS-cat}} or {{stub category}}. Here's the chronology as I see it:

What shall we do about these? Fewer than 60 pages use these, so it's probably easiest to restore the template to a being a redirect, and delete the category again. --Redrose64 馃尮 (talk) 20:34, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

  • I agree, and the template should be adapted to {{asbox}} format as well. Her Pegship (talk) 16:18, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
    Caftaric (talk  contribs) seems to have boosted the category to 64 members but it is still in a highly non-standard format. --Redrose64 馃尮 (talk) 00:23, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

January 2017[edit]

Akwaibom stubs[edit]

See the original conversation at the WPSS talk page for context. An editor created a WikiProject for articles pertaining to Akwa Ibom State in Nigeria, then created {{Akwaibom-stub}} and Category:Akwaibom stubs (in good faith). They want to keep a general stub category and template for Akwa Ibom State; there are two other general state stub types (Abia and Rivers) already. We do have a {{AkwaIbom-geo-stub}}, upmerged to Category:Nigeria geography stubs.

If we decide to keep a general Akwa Ibom stub type, I move we restructure it as {{AkwaIbomState-stub}} and Category:Akwa Ibom State stubs to conform to naming conventions. Her Pegship (talk) 00:13, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

In the discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting#Akwaibom stubs? I see several different spellings of the place name in the page titles (in several namespaces) mentioned so far:
  • Akwaibom
  • akwaibom
  • Akwa Ibom
  • AkwaIbom
Whatever other editing applies, these should be unified under a single form.
(I hope this appears in the right place on the page. I'm following the directions Redrose64 gave me.) --Thnidu (talk) 03:44, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

August 2012[edit]

Writer stubs by nation[edit]

Discovered when updating the stubs list for writers that there are several unproposed templates and categories in use. All seem useful and properly named, and would be speediable if proposed fresh:

Anyone have a problem with adding these to the official list? --Qetuth (talk) 11:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Found more of the same in Europe:

All upmerged templates with 10-50 translusions each. --Qetuth (talk) 12:45, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

July 2012[edit]

Camping stubs[edit]

Was alerted to this when I looked at Category:Stubs and found Category:Camping stubs listed as a subcategory. (Have now removed the "parent category", so it doesn't show up for everyone else stub-sorting, and added a topic parent cat and a stub parent cat). There's a template {{Camping-stub}} and a category and no evidence of either being discussed here.PamD 07:09, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

  • I was editing camping-related articles and noticed that there wasn't a camping stub available to tag stub articles with, so I created one and the (initial) category page. Thanks to User:PamD for further organizing it as a subcategory of Category:Camping. Northamerica1000(talk) 07:39, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
But I only added them as a temporary measure while the stub type/cat waited for proper consideration. PamD 07:46, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
The template seems like a good idea to me! Usually though we wouldn't have a category for so few stubs unless it is the parent of a tree or the main type for another project. I'd recommend having it upmerge to Category:Outdoor recreation stubs which itself is quite small. --Qetuth (talk) 11:03, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Filipino long-distance runner stubs[edit]

Have found Category:Filipino long-distance runner stubs and associated {{Philippines-long-distance runner-bio-stub}}. There is only one article so tagged, and to my mind, there is limited scope for expansion: consider that {{Philippines-athletics-bio-stub}} (which upmerges to Category:Asian athletics biography stubs and Category:Filipino sportspeople stubs) has been placed on just 11 articles, so is hardly in need of subdivision. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:16, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Agree these should be deleted. {{Philippines-athletics-bio-stub}} should be fine for these. If the template is kept, it should be renamed to {{Phillippenes-longdistance-athletics-bio-stub}} to match existing templates. --Qetuth (talk) 11:22, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Try {{Philippines-longdistance-athletics-bio-stub}}, if it gets kept. I'd suggest that first we might try double-tagging with {{Philippines-athletics-bio-stub}} and a generic {{longdistance-athletics-bio-stub}}. Dawynn (talk) 01:09, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Sabah stubs[edit]

{{Sabah-stub}} and Category:Sabah stubs were created without proposal, and added to a handful of articles - all of these appear to either not be stubs or already have {{sabah-geo-stub}}. Don't see a reason to keep this, but also not sure what's going on with it on hold until the templates are sorted out? --Qetuth (talk) 15:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Kaiser Wilhelm II Land geography stubs[edit]

Have found Category:Kaiser Wilhelm II Land geography stubs as a sub-cat of Category:Antarctica geography stubs. The sole member of that cat is Kaiser Wilhelm II Land which is only in the cat by being placed there directly. The matching stub template {{KaiserWilhelmIILand-geo-stub}} upmerges to Category:Antarctica geography stubs but has nowhere near sufficient transclusions (12 at present) to justify a separate cat. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:18, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

May 2012[edit]

{{Multi-star-stub}} and {{Star-system-stub}}[edit]

{{Multi-star-stub}} and {{Star-system-stub}} are two templates, placed in the same category, with identical descriptions. This category holds about 500 pages, so a reasonable split is not mandatory, but wouldn't hurt. Still, this could use some expert help at least on establishing the proper wording for each template. Dawynn (talk) 19:05, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

April 2012[edit]

Iranian editor subs[edit]

Have found Category:Iranian editor subs as a sub-cat of both Category:Iranian writer stubs and Category:Editor stubs. Believe that it should have been Category:Iranian editor stubs. There does not appear to be a matching stub template. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:20, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Appears to be one missed at Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion/Log/2011/June#Premature_Iran_categories. No template, no permcat, not all the articles included are stubs, and certainly not enough articles. I suggest either deleting or making it the permcat (ie, Category:Iranian editors). --Qetuth (talk) 16:37, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
No complaints, I'll move it to Category:Iranian editors...--Qetuth (talk) 04:15, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

March 2012[edit]

Denmark-music-stub, test case for bigger music problem?[edit]

{{Denmark-music-stub}} appears unproposed, and has over 60 transclusions. Currently upmerges to both Category:Music stubs and Category:Denmark stubs. It mostly consists of albums and songs with a few other odds and ends. So it appears we could create Category:Danish music stubs to match existing categories such as Category:Japan music stubs.

There seems to be no consistency at the moment though with how countries are treated in the music stubs section. Some of the fooian music stubs categories are mostly used for songs and yet are not part of the Category:Song stubs tree. They also collect up the subcategories scattered among Category:Music biography stubs. Category:Canadian music stubs is a parent only category for the bio stubs. On the other hand, countries like Australia, UK, and US have no such category so their stub categories are unrelated, in some cases only sharing a parent all the way back at Category:Music stubs.

I think we should either start a 'Songs by country' and 'Albums by country' sorting, or otherwise start moving songs back into the songs by year/genre categories, for consistency. Albums by country might help the overpopulation in the albums. And seeing how hard it is to navigate between, for example, Category:Australian guitarist stubs, Category:Australian musical group stubs, Category:Australian record label stubs makes me think at the very least the parent only categories are needed. --Qetuth (talk) 21:16, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

January 2012[edit]

English law stubs[edit]

{{England-law-stub}} was created out of process by Mais oui! (talk  contribs) who seems to unilaterally create stubs categories an awful lot and may need to be warned about this. This one seems ok in numerical terms but it should be "England and Wales law stub" not "England law stub". Tim! (talk) 07:04, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

As the permcat is at Category:English law, Category:English law stubs is logical and the template name is logical too. I don't see a problem with this stub type, but I wish it had been proposed properly! Perhaps {{Wales-law-stub}} would be an acceptable redirect, if anyone feels it is needed. SeveroTC 09:57, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Sports Car Racing stub[edit]

{{Sports Car Racing stub}} was created out of process, is misnamed, and populates an inappropriate category, i.e. Category:Stub-Class Sports Car Racing articles, which is a category for talk pages. I am pretty sure that this template is redundant to {{Motorsport-stub}}, which populates Category:Auto racing stubs. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:24, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't believe the category is redundant. No more redundant than {{F1-stub}} is to {{Motorsport-stub}}. --Sabre ball t c 22:20, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
I didn't say that the category is redundant. Category:Stub-Class Sports Car Racing articles is definitely not redundant, because it is part of the article assessment scheme and is intended to contain talk pages, and so is being misused here.
I said that Template:Sports Car Racing stub is redundant. Given that sports car racing is a subset of motor sport, is it a significant subset? That is, is it possible that there are more than 60 articles which are stubs, and which cover sports car racing? See Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals#Proposing new stub types - procedure. {{F1-stub}} is transcluded by well over 250 pages, so has justification for its existence. There are presently 23 articles transcluding {{Sports Car Racing stub}} - can another 37 suitable candidates be found? If not, there is little purpose to {{Sports Car Racing stub}}, even if it were correctly set up. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:12, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
I will point out that a discussion had already started about an appropriate template for this topic. See here. Since we have a separate permanent category (Category:Sports car racing), I don't see why the template would be redundant. I agree that the existing template is malformed, but I support building a template based on the results of the discussion on the proposal page. Dawynn (talk) 13:19, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
I note that the discussion was started on 11 January 2012, and that the template was created on 19 January by the same person who started the discussion, even though the discussion was still open. Fait accompli. Why do we even bother having WP:WSS/P if people feel that they can drive straight through? --Redrose64 (talk) 23:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
I have no objection to renaming the template. --Sabre ball t c 13:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
It's not fair to call out {{Sports Car Racing stub}} for only having been transcluded 23 times. It's barely even a week old. If you check the category its places articles in, there are over 80 articles that could have that template placed on the page its just not there yet. --Sabre ball t c 21:22, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
I have turned this template into a redirect. Created the template name that had been discussed on the proposal page. Please use the new template name ({{sportscar-autoracing-stub}}) Dawynn (talk) 10:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Kupres, Bosnia and Herzegovina[edit]

I recently built {{Kupres-geo-stub}} for the municipality in Republika Srpska. This template name was approved back in April 2011. In the midst of building this template, I found that there are two separate municipalities, both of which are in Bosnia and Herzegovina:

  1. Kupres, Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina
  2. Kupres, Republika Srpska

Normally, when we have such instances between two countries, we add a country code to the template to differentiate. But what is the proper nomenclature in this situation, where the two municipalities are within the same country? Dawynn (talk) 17:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

R&B song stub templates[edit]

Yes, both versions have been built for the last 5 decades. The {{R&B-9999s-song-stub}} versions were approved here. The other versions have not been approved, but all the articles have been tagged with the non-approved versions. I'm OK with keeping one set, and changing the other set to redirects, but would like some guidance as to which should be preferred. Dawynn (talk) 02:45, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Use 9999s-R&B-song-stub, for consistency with 9999s-country-song-stub, 9999s-rock-song-stub, 9999s-pop-song-stub. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:15, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Gastropod family templates[edit]

Found the following. I see no issue with keeping these.

Dawynn (talk) 14:55, 4 January 2012 (UTC)