Wikipedia talk:Ultraviolet

Bug Report Feature Request

Going Ultraviolet

Hello there! By now, you may have already noticed that RedWarn hasn't had any major updates since 16.1 (released on March 8, 2021), and we've only been sending out some minor patches and bugfixes since then. In that time, we've been hard at work developing a complete rewrite of the project since September 2020, and we've finally done enough work to be able to release a beta version of this rewrite soon.

Because of many different factors, including the rewrite having diverged so much from the original code, the team has decided to give this version of RedWarn a brand new name. We've decided to call it Ultraviolet; electromagnetic radiation found past the opposite side of red on the visible light spectrum. Releases of the userscript will eventually be available on user pages of 10nm — 10 nanometers being the smallest possible wavelength of ultraviolet light. We're still working on getting a user-friendly version of Ultraviolet available; we ask for your patience as we get closer to releasing more feature-filled builds of Ultraviolet.

Is this a new script or just a rebranded version of RedWarn?

In essence, Ultraviolet is a rewritten version of RedWarn. That said, most of the original code has been removed or replaced. Significant work has also been done to make the process of using the script smooth and universal, removing nearly all of the UI-related bugs experienced in the current version of RedWarn. In addition, we're also working on Safari support, mobile usability, internationalization (other languages), wiki-specific configurations, a dark mode, and a lot more features that make Ultraviolet just work out of the box.

What this means for RedWarn

For a while, we've been holding off on development of further versions of RedWarn in favor of the rewrite. Expanding on the current code is a feat that would take a significant amount of time, on par with just rewriting the script itself. For now, RedWarn will still be supported and given security updates and patches for minor bugs. Once Ultraviolet has been completed and integrates all the features of RedWarn, we will decommission RedWarn and ask users to switch to the new userscript.

What this means for you, as a user

Stick to RedWarn while we're still working on implementing all the features of RedWarn into Ultraviolet. Rest assured, we will still provide updates that prioritize user safety and security, so you can still use RedWarn without the fear of compromise. We highly recommend to anyone who does counter-vandalism patrol often to use only RedWarn for now in order to avoid any catastrophic bugs. We're still finishing up on making the script backwards-compatible with your existing RedWarn configuration, after that we'll begin providing beta versions of Ultraviolet, so that anyone who wishes to use Ultraviolet before it has caught up with RedWarn can do so.

You'll be able to keep on using RedWarn until we've made our first release version (i.e. 1.0) of Ultraviolet. After that, we will require you to switch to Ultraviolet from RedWarn, as we will be dropping support for RedWarn. Although this may be a bit of a bother, we ask for your patience in this eventual transition.

What else this means

We'll be moving away from the RedWarn name entirely in the coming months. The team believes it's important to move away from the name, as most of Ultraviolet has been built from scratch and holds little to no resemblance to RedWarn (at least in terms of the code), and due to some other reasons.

This is a big milestone for us as userscript developers, and we hope to have your full support. In case you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to ask us about them below. Thanks!

Written by Chlod, Berrely, Sennecaster, and Remagoxer. Published by Chlod (RW • say hi!) 19:39, 22 February 2022 (UTC).

@Chlod, is there any update on the progress of this? There's no rush, just curious. — Qwerfjkltalk 21:34, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, @Qwerfjkl! The developers are currently busy on a few things, me specifically being busy (in recent months) with Deputy, although now that the bulk of the starting work on that has wrapped up, I can start working on Ultraviolet again. In the meantime, we've been doing some background work that'll help us facilitate the move from GitLab.org to Wikimedia GitLab, and we're currently planning how to perform that migration within the near future. Next up on the list of major features up for implementation is a module for marking pages for speedy deletion, so that's on my list of things to research. Hope this answers your question! Chlod (UV • say hi!) 03:31, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Chlod, is UV is in full swing operation or still in the process of moving? ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 21:12, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

I think it's still moving but close to completion, I would advise to remain with redwarn as UV is still in beta and doesn't have all the features of redwarn fully implemented. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 21:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up @Zippybonzo. ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 04:58, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

@98Tigerius: All of our old RedWarn pages have moved already. We just haven't changed the top banner since UV doesn't have a 1.0 release yet. Right now, UV is already equipped with a lot of the basic features, and it's just a matter of porting all of the old features back in (and for MAT and Quick Templates, redesigning the process entirely). Implementing these would benefit a sprint, but it's slowly been just me doing the work as other members of the team have been busy with real life things (and so have I). I don't like giving timetables when I don't know if I can fulfill it, so there's no estimations on when UV 1.0 will be out. @Zippybonzo's right in that UV still lacks features, but if you don't use anything in Wikipedia:Ultraviolet/Compatibility matrix labeled "Not yet", then switching over shouldn't be an issue. Ultimately it's up to you on whether you'd like to switch or not. Chlod (UV • say hi!) 07:37, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Great and thanks a lot for giving more info about the progress of UV. I already used UV for short period but switch back to RW. You are doing well and all development team, keep it up! ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 13:50, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Security of .js files

Hello! I just installed RW like 20 minutes ago so perhaps this is a silly question, but is it possible for other people to edit my .js files, like the config? They seem to be unprotected pages and they are in my "Contributions" log. The pages say that inserting malicious code could compromise your account, so I am concerned about security. Thank you. Gottagotospace (talk) 20:05, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi Gottagotospace, JS files that are in the User namespace can only be edited by that user or by Interface administrators. As long as your make sure you know what code you're loading, you should be fine. ―sportzpikachu _{my talkcontribs} 20:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Gotcha! I have zero plans to touch the code myself. Thanks! Gottagotospace (talk) 20:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Gottagotospace, "inserting malicious code" would be e.g. installing a malicious user script that makes edits using your account. — Qwerfjkltalk 23:32, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Report to AIV from diff not working

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When I attempt to report a user to AIV from a diff using the button after reverting vandalism, nothing happens. It works fine if I go to the user's talk page and use the UV button for AIV in the top right. I am currently using Opera on Windows 11 but I hop between browsers for different tasks and have also encountered this problem in Firefox and Edge. Adam Black ^{talk • contribs} 15:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

It works for me - Edge on Windows 10 Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 15:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

I'll try it in Edge next time I'm patrolling recent changes. Adam Black ^{talk • contribs} 16:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@Adam Black If this happens again, please check for any errors in the browser (see Wikipedia:Ultraviolet/Documentation/Troubleshooting#Reporting JavaScript errors) and post them here, or any other method at WP:UV/C. ―sportzpikachu _{my talkcontribs} 18:13, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Will do. Adam Black ^{talk • contribs} 19:05, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Add a "Report to COIN" on a user page

It would be nice for UV to support reporting a user to WP:COIN and automatically post the notice template on their talk page of COI discussion.

TagKnife (talk) 00:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @TagKnife, thank you for your suggestion! However, we're currently not supporting noticeboard topic creation/notifications in Ultraviolet at the moment, but that may be something for the future. ―sportzpikachu _{my talkcontribs} 08:18, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

No problem, I just thought to suggest it as when I did a patrol on that day i caught 2 seperate WP:Blanking edits that were by authors editing their own people articles removing sections they didnt like was sourced about them and where self identified as WP:COI. TagKnife (talk) 14:42, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Quick question

I know WP:RedWarn has been in the process of moving to WP:UV. However, as a mobile editor, I'm having problems when I'm trying to use UV, like the desktop interface just completely freeze, but RedWarn works perfectly fine. Any reason why UV is behaving like this?

• special ping: Chlod & Isochrone.

dxneo (talk) 23:02, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi! I had the same problem a while ago, it turned out to be a memory (RAM) problem. Try cleaning some space in the memory and it should work fine. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC)