Messy Marv

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Messy Marv
Birth name Marvin Watson Jr.
Also known as The Boy Boy Young Mess, MessCalen
Born (1976-03-19) March 19, 1976 (age 38)[1]
Genres Hip hop
Occupations Rapper
Years active 1995–present
Labels Scalen LLC / Koch Entertainment / SMC Recordings / Click Clack Records
Associated acts The Regime, Mac Dre, JT The Bigga Figga San Quinn, Mitchy Slick, Berner, TraeThe Jacka, DJ Quik, The Game, Suge Knight, YG, Yukmouth

Marvin Watson Jr. (born March 19, 1976),[1] better known by his stage name Messy Marv, is an American rapper who grew up in the Fillmore district of San Francisco, California. He is the cousin of San Quinn, Stevie Johnson, and Ya Boy.[2][3]

Recent career[edit]

On November 2, 2007, Messy Marv was released from jail after serving twelve months on weapons charges.[4] Before, during and following his jail sentence, he had several previous albums charting, including Cake & Ice Cream 2, released in 2009 and peaked on the R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart at #39 and on the Rap Albums chart at #12, and Blow: Blocks and Boat Docks, a collaboration album with Berner released in 2010 which peaked at #48 on the R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart. In the spring of 2012, Messy Marv released the hit mixtape, Da Frank Lucas Dat Neva Wore Da Mink Coat and released the hit single, "You Gotta Pay Me". In 2013, he announced the release of his newest LP "Playboy Gangsta" under his new moniker LilPaperdupMess, and released 3 singles as promotionals for the album: "We Killas", "Beautiful Kalifornia", & "A Girlfriend Ain't What I Need". Marv confirmed via Twitter a release date of July 23, 2013 for the LP.

Controversy[edit]

Obie Trice[edit]

In 2005, he was in a feud with G-Unit, which escalated when Obie Trice, a member of Shady Records, went to the radio station KMEL and said, "in San Francisco I have to cover my ass." A diss track was released by Guce and Messy Marv, "50 Explanations", on the album Pill Music: The Rico Act, Vol. 1. 50 Cent and Sha Money XL then exchanged words over the phone with Guce's camp. He afterwards said, "it's over with, and it never kicked off".[5]

San Quinn[edit]

Messy Marv started a feud with his cousin San Quinn on September 22, 2008, by calling the latter a "snitch".[6] On December 11, Quinn told HipHopDX that he "loves" Messy Marv despite the diss tracks that they have both sent to each other.[7] In a 2010 interview with WordofSouth, he stated the reason for the beef was because he was "talking too much", but that they are attempting to squash the feud.[8]

Too Short[edit]

On August 3, 2011, Watson Jr. started a beef with rapper Too Short on Twitter.[9] According to HipHopDX, Messy Marv was apparently calling the latter's support of peers into question, while Short offered to meet face-to-face to discuss the matter in private.[10] It is unclear how the beef started, but one way it possibly started was when Too Short was featured on a song by 40 Glocc called 'Welcome to California", where he reportedly said that the Bay Area was not a place for Crips and Bloods. "I guess he took that [to mean] I was talking about him. I don’t know [what he thought]. It went way over my head. One of my Frisco homies told me the other day he was mad at me over the 40 Glocc song," said the rap legend, as Marv is affiliated with a Piru Blood gang. Another cause for the beef might have been, states the report, that Marv and other area emcees may wrongfully recall being threatened if they did not align with Short's Up All Nite imprint in 2007.

Spider Loc[edit]

On April 19, 2007, rapper Spider Loc released a diss track at Marv, and Game called "Ova Killa" featuring Papa Smurf.[11]

Mistah F.A.B.[edit]

In 2009, Messy Marv mocked rapper Mistah F.A.B.'s chain getting stolen repeatedly.[12] This led to diss tracks being sent between the rappers, including F.A.B. sending one entitled "Okay" where he impersonates Watson Jr.[13]

Philthy Rich[edit]

On September 25, 2013, Philthy Rich released a track entitled "Swear to God" featuring Kurt Diggler. It dissed Marv and Bay Area rappers Kafani & DB Tha General.[14] The track is to appear on his upcoming album N.E.R.N.L. 3. In response, Marv plans on releasing a diss record entitled Philthy Rich Is a Bitch on October 22 under his alias LilPaperdupMess.[15] On October 15, Philthy Rich released a diss track at Marv in his freestyle to Drake's "Pound Cake / Paris Morton Music 2".[16] The next day, Marv released a diss track at Philthy entitled "I'm Right Here".[17] The same day, October 16, Philthy released a diss record entitled Messy Marv aka the Girl Girl Is a Fake Blood.[18]

Discography[edit]

References[edit]

  1. ^ a b "California Birth Index, 1905–1995". Family Tree Legends Records Collection (Online Database). 
  2. ^ Birchmeier, Jason. "Messy Marv > Biography". allmusic. Retrieved 2012-01-25. 
  3. ^ https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/messy-marv/id2356438?showBio=1
  4. ^ "For S.F. rappers, another dream deferred", San Francisco Chronicle, May 15, 2007
  5. ^ http://www.beatmp3.net/artist/guce.html
  6. ^ http://slumz.boxden.com/f87/audio-messy-marv-callin-out-san-quinn-snitch-1151009/
  7. ^ http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/interviews/id.1278/title.san-quinn-fillmores-finest
  8. ^ http://www.wordofsouth.com/myblock/showthread.php?85017-Messy-Marv-Interview
  9. ^ http://backontheblog.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/too-hort-messy-marvs-new-twitter-beef/
  10. ^ http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.16423/title.too-hort-dismisses-messy-marv-beef-messy-marv-releases-diss-track
  11. ^ http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/singles/id.1915/title.spider-loc-f-papa-smurf-ova-kill-the-game-messy-marv-e-40-diss
  12. ^ http://nationofthizzlam.blogspot.com/2010/05/messy-marv-and-human-condition.html
  13. ^ http://www.thesermonsdomain.com/2011/08/24/messy-marv-ft-too-short-jt-the-bigga-figga-okay-messy-marv-diss/
  14. ^ Video on YouTube
  15. ^ http://www.thisis50.com/forum/topics/exclusive-lil-paperd-up-mess-philthy-rich-is-a-bitch-mixtape
  16. ^ http://www.hip-hopvibe.com/2013/10/15/philthy-rich-pound-cake-messy-marv-diss/
  17. ^ http://slumz.boxden.com/f87/messy-marv-im-right-here-philthy-rich-diss-1989486/
  18. ^ http://www.thecoli.com/threads/philthy-rich-messy-marv-is-a-fake-blood-free-download.155788/

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