Talk:Anna Magnani

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Anna Magnani was not born in Rome Italy. She was born in Alexandria Egypt, and moved to Italy as a young child. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.44.181 (talk) 02:46, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wondering[edit]

Can excessive consumption of black coffee cause pancreatic cancer?Lestrade (talk) 16:27, 2 December 2009 (UTC)Lestrade[reply]

Parents birthplace and names[edit]

There were a number of good faith changes to the names of her parents which did not include any source. The names deleted did have a source, a very valid one: Miracles and Sacrilege: Roberto Rossellini, the Church, and Film Censorship by By William Bruce Johnson, Univ. of Toronto Press, 2008. Read text here. Another valid source, a major bio by Life magazine in 1950, gave the names of her parents, which are different than the recent edits. That can also be read here. Despite the expertise of the editor who is using their own knowledge to make the changes, doing so without a source, and contradicting well-sourced information, cannot be done according to Wikipedia's clear rules --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 03:50, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: rationale for last edits by User:Fmdscrittore, "incorrect data, falshoods. see magnani official site; the book cited here (Johnson) does not contain the information," it is necessary to provide actual published sources. Please review Wikipedia rules for verifying edits, otherwise unsupported statements, true or not, are treated as personal opinions. Adding sources and citing them is fairly easy. Note also that deleting sourced material and continually replacing them with unverified opinions can be treated as a form of vandalism.
The links given earlier to outside sources contain the details removed (see Johnson, p. 194) contrary to comment, "Johnson does not contain the information." The Life magazine article also contains details about her parents. Additional bio details from Turner Classic Movies: FATHER: Francesco Magnani. Egyptian. MOTHER: Marina Casadei. Italian. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So, was her father Egyptian or Italian?[edit]

The article says that her father is Egyptian and later goes on to say that her father was a Calabrese Italian. Which is it? If there is doubt, it should be clearly stated in the article instead of making two conflicting affirmations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.59.42.162 (talk) 17:56, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed - added cited detail for consistency. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 18:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The cited source for her background states that she was "said to have been born" to an Egyptian father and Italian-Jewish. This doesn't inspire much confidence. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 03:38, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Katz's Film Encyclopedia says she was "the illegitimate child of an Italian mother and an Egyptian father." --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 06:38, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I removed it because "said to have" been doesn't sound very definitive to me. The article says her maternal grandmother's last name was Magnani, but that isn't really an Italian Jewish surname (Modigliani, on the other hand...) All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 08:15, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That kind of editorial comment doesn't override the RS and V issue, unfortunately. If you have no better source than yourself, the early life descriptions should remain.--Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 19:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See my comment below - that book doesn't actually say the Egyptian and Italian-Jewish information is true. In a note later on (page 408, note 18) the author says both her parents were Italian. The line you were quoting was meant to be something that wasn't true. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 00:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Life Magazine says her parents' names were Francesco Magnani and Marina Casedei. here All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 08:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Page 408 of the cited book actually says that the "said to have been" part wasn't true, and that her parents were both Italian. It's note 18. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 19:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Broken link[edit]

In the "External links" section, the "Anna Magnani - Official Web Site - English version" link is not working. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.169.150.10 (talk) 14:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Luca, Olivia[edit]

Only just heard of this woman. Apparently her disabled son is still alive and his daughter Olivia is an actress who won a Globo d'oro. Is that worth mentioning or is it kind of irrelevant? I know some articles on actors and actresses do mention that kind of thing, but others may not.--T. Anthony (talk) 12:24, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Applause at funeral irrelevant[edit]

It is frequent Italian custom to "erupt into applause when the body is carried out" at funerals, for any deceased person, not just famous ones. Thus, while not denying the depth of grief and mass appreciation for her life and work shown by crowds at Magnani's funeral, it is irrelevant in this case to particularly mention that her body received applause in an encyclopaedic entry. They would have clapped for anybody. Likeamanshand (talk) 13:15, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not exactly. If I remember well, people got impressed because the crowd applause during the funeral of Magnani was the first one to occur in such an occasion. Applauding the deceased at the funerals is a quite recent custom in Italy: older generations were much more serious in this respect. Alex2006 (talk) 12:35, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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