Talk:Chinmayananda Saraswati

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Opening heading[edit]

The article can talk about the content of the following, but including such apparent platitudes in the article is PoV.
--Jerzyt 05:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

left HIS body -- capitalization unnecessary, implies PoV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.6.78 (talk) 08:06, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

    • Chinmaya Mission Pledge**

We stand as one family Bound to each other with love and respect.

We serve as an army Courageous and disciplined Ever ready to fight against all low tendencies And false values, within and without us.

We live honestly The noble life of sacrifice and service Producing more than what we consume And giving more than what we take.

We seek the Lord’s grace To keep us on the path of virtue, courage and wisdom. May Thy grace and blessings flow through us To the world around us.

We believe that the service of our country Is the service of the Lord of lords And devotion to the people Is the devotion to the Supreme Self.

We know our responsibilities Give us the ability and courage to fulfill them.

Om Tat Sat


His Force full saying is.....LIFE IS YOURS....MAKE IT OR MAR IT....



Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved per consensus and WP:NCIN. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 19:29, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


ChinmayanandaSwami Chinmayananda — Relisted. --rgpk (comment) 17:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC) This would be in keeping with other articles on Hindu monks. The page Swami Chinmayananda already exists as a redirect, or I would have moved it myself.--Devadaru (talk) 13:17, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

I commented on this at Talk:Sivananda_Saraswati#Requested_move. Devadaru (talk) 22:23, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Oppose. We avoid using religious honorifics whenever possible because of unavoidable neutrality issues. In this case, as with most people titled "swami", the title is avoidable. Gavia immer (talk) 04:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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time line in article[edit]

diksha was in 1949. AFTER diksha he went to study in rishikesh for some years and then 8 years with tapovan maharaj. the minimum timescale for starting chinmaya mission would then by 1957+ and not 1952. kindly get the data verified. regards. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanky688 (talkcontribs) 12:59, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed[edit]

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The Use of "Swami" in Article[edit]

"Swami" as an honorific title is used in other articles across Wikipedia. To prohibit its use in this article is unfair and unbalanced. It also reflects an ethnocentric viewpoint biased toward the Western perspective. Pope John Paul is listed as "Pope" John Paul in Wikipedia. "St." Francis of Assisi is listed as St. Francis of Assisi. When a significant portion of the population recognizes an honorific title, that title becomes relevant for public discourse and record. Johnhindley77 (talk) 20:33, 2 July 2013 (UTC) July 02, 2013

See WP:NCIN. - Sitush (talk) 16:52, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Lead[edit]

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a promotional site. Writing a hagiography can be done at private websites, not at Wikipedia. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:41, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. I've started cutting into this thing because it is absolutely ridiculous. - Sitush (talk) 19:34, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
@Sitush: If you want to use a short form for his name then I think "Chinmayananda" would be the appropriate name to use. I have never seen him being called "Saraswati." Kautilya3 (talk) 16:14, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Maybe. I'm not sure. What is certain is that we shouldn't be dropping Swami all over the place. This article is a disaster, as are most others with Divine Life Society connections. - Sitush (talk) 16:17, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, you want to keep "Swami"? I say no. We don't use "Swami" for Vivekananda, arguably the greatest of them. So we have a good precedent. Kautilya3 (talk) 17:45, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
No, sorry. I was using a very colloquial form of "dropping", akin to "peppering" the article with something unnecessary. What I meant was that the article had the swami thing all over it and in fact should not have done. We're in agreement: the word should be dropped (in the sense you mean) and indeed has been. - Sitush (talk) 17:52, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Dubious sources[edit]

We really should be avoiding sources published by the Mission, Divine Life Society etc. I can't actually see any of the ones cited in this article but those that I've seen for other articles have always been hagiographies. I'm also surprised that, even for the basic biographical stuff, we seem to need to cite a shedload of different Mission biographies - that makes me think that they are in here as a means of spamming Mission publications. - Sitush (talk) 18:06, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Number of images and copyrights[edit]

On September 13, 2014, a comment was made That is a ridiculous number of images & I'm not convinced that they are all free of copyright.. I see this as two separate concerns:

  • Image Copyrights: I requested Central Chinmaya Mission Trust to release these images under a 'free' license. They agreed and sent me an email per template Wikipedia:Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries. I will be happy to forward the email as appropriate. When I uploaded the images, I did not see (or perhaps missed) instructions to forward the email. Please help!
  • Number of images: What is a good number of images? Per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Images, at 1024x768 resolution, the images should not extend beyond the section. I see only two out of eight images extended beyond one section. Thus, removing two would be sufficient?

Sanjaymjoshi (talk) 12:36, 15 September 2014 (UTC)