Talk:Chuck Noll

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
          This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
WikiProject Biography / Sports and Games (Rated C-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by the sports and games work group (marked as Low-importance).
 
WikiProject National Football League (Rated C-class, Top-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject National Football League, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the NFL on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Top  This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Pittsburgh Steelers (Rated C-class, Top-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is part of the Pittsburgh Steelers subproject of WikiProject National Football League, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to the Pittsburgh Steelers and the NFL on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the subproject page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
Checklist icon
 Top  This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
Note icon
This article has been marked as needing immediate attention.
WikiProject Pittsburgh (Rated C-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pittsburgh, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Pittsburgh and its metropolitan area on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject College football (Rated C-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject College football, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of College football on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Indianapolis Colts (Rated C-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Indianapolis Colts, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Indianapolis Colts on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject United States / Ohio (Rated C-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by WikiProject Ohio (marked as Low-importance).
 
WikiProject Cleveland (Rated C-class)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Cleveland, the scope of which includes Cleveland and the Greater Cleveland Area; If you would like to join us, please visit the project page; if you have any questions, please consult the FAQ.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
 ???  This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
 
Note icon
This article has been automatically rated by a bot or other tool because one or more other projects use this class. Please ensure the assessment is correct before removing the |auto= parameter.

Untitled[edit]

Noll was not a running back when he played, he was a lineman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.213.16.180 (talkcontribs)

Yes. An I think it should mention that the Browns won the championships in 1954 and 1955.

He is the greatest[edit]

I think what makes Chuck Noll a great coach is his leadership style. I wish I had a chance to meet and work for him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.51.23.162 (talkcontribs)


WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as C, and the rating on other projects was brought up to C class. BetacommandBot (talk) 18:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

3-4[edit]

The Steel Curtain was a 4-3 defense, not a 3-4 as the article contends. Noll didn't go to a 3-4 until the 1980s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.2.252.37 (talk) 17:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Potential Sources[edit]

Below are two potential sources for this article:

Dan Rooney:  My 75 Years with the Pittsburgh Steelers and the NFL (as told to Andrew E. Masich and David F. Halaas).  New York:  Da Capo Press, 2007.

Some examples:

  • Dan Rooney first met with Chuck Noll on January 13, 1969, the day after Super Bowl III. In that meeting, Noll outlined a long-term strategy to build the team through the draft (p.125).
  • Noll was announced as the Steelers coach on January 27, 1969. In the press conference, Noll said, “Losing has nothing to do with geography.” (p. 127-128)
  • Noll picked Joe Greene over Terry Hanratty in the first round of the 1969 draft, explaining, “In order to win a game, you have to first not lose it.” (pp. 129, 301)
  • Noll was fined $1000 for referring to Oakland Raiders player George Atkinson as a “criminal element”. That statement also led to a $3 million lawsuit by Atkinson against Noll for slander and defamation of character (p.191-192).
  • Noll didn’t initially consider Rocky Bleier to be a great athlete, but after seeing Bleier’s desire to play, said that “he was a guy that grew on you.” (p.304)

Another potential source: The Steelers Reader (edited by Randy Roberts & David Welky). University of Pittsburgh Press, 2001.

Examples:

  • Noll expected players to motivate themselves (p.137).
  • Noll traded receiver Roy Jefferson (the Steelers’ best offensive player) to Baltimore when Jefferson ignored bed check (p.138).
  • Noll didn’t want players to get psyched up to play because he believed that no one could sustain it (p.139).
  • Noll was initially given a three-year contract with the Steelers (p. 148).
  • Four days after the 1991 season ended, Noll decided to retire as Dan Rooney decided to reduce Noll’s control over the team (p. 289).

Philippians 1:27 (talk) 12:17, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Space-Time Physics Violations[edit]

How exactly does Noll spends "most of his time" in Florida while spending "about half the year" in Pittsburgh? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.44.10 (talk) 01:06, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Age?[edit]

According to the info box, Chuck Knoll was 112 when he died. LOL.


2601:8:A700:CA3:196E:3A5F:C0C5:7D77 (talk) 22:52, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Chuck Noll was not the youngest coach in NFL history up to that time. Both George Halas, and Fritz Pollard were player coaches who were in their 20's. Also, Don Shula was 33 when he became coach of the Baltimore Colts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.183.67 (talk) 01:24, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

The Emperor?[edit]

I remember hearing Myron Cope say forty years ago that OJ Simpson had dubbed Noll "The Emperor" after playing for Noll in the Pro Bowl. I haven't been able to find anything supporting that on the internet, maybe because nothing good could be attributed to Simpson in internet era. Anyone else recall this, and/or can it be documented?Arnold Rothstein1921 (talk) 16:50, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

I believe it was a nickname of respect -- repeated today by the mayor of Pittsburgh; see the tributes below. -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 23:09, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Tributes[edit]

Rush Limbaugh is paying him tribute for the opening 20 minutes (to 20 million radio listeners). -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:14, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Here is some of what he said, with a link to the full 20-minute tribute: RUSH: "I want to start with the death of the Steelers coach Chuck Noll. He died in his sleep, natural causes, Friday night. He was 82 years old. And Chuck Noll was a throwback. Even during his life he was a throwback [to the humility of the 1970s and before.] He was from a different era even when he was alive. The man coached entirely with the Pittsburgh Steelers. His entire head coach career was with one team, the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's fascinating, too, by the way, to listen to his players talk about him. It's amazing." [1] It was a great tribute to a great man and coach for life. -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 22:40, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Tributes from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, today: [2] mainly, from the players:

  • Joe Greene—Chuck was just the ultimate leader.
  • Terry Bradshaw—He was smart, really smart. His game plans were spot on.
  • Rocky Bleier—Chuck always said the success of his player will be in the upbringing of their kids.
  • Jack Ham—With all the great players – Bradshaw, Swann, Franco, Lambert, Greene – we don’t win championships without Chuck.
  • Donnie Shell--…about your family off the field, your family life.
  • Dick Hoak—They had the greatest respect for Chuck.
  • Lynn Swann-- That kind of focus will get you what you ultimately want.
  • John Stallworth--One of the lessons I learned from him was that you’ve never arrived, that you never get to the point where you are the best that you can be, and you should admit you are always striving to be better and to get better in whatever it was – as a football player, as a father, as a business person, as someone who was active in the community. You could always get better at something. Don’t just settle for where you are. I think I carry that more than anything. You can always be better. You’ve never arrived.
  • Pittsburgh Mayor Bill Peduto—Growing up as a kid in the 1970s was a magical time in Pittsburgh history. Our city wouldn’t be what it was then — or now — without The Emperor Chuck Noll.

Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 23:14, 16 June 2014 (UTC)