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Copyvios[edit]

Had to revert a bunch of stuff this morning. Copied wholesale from [1] - Pete C 07:35, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Ground transportation[edit]

The reverting back and forth about whether some or all airports are deemed to have a rail connection is getting annoying. Personally I think the answer is that none do, since Farranfore Station serves the village, not the airport. However, rather than people getting bogged down in it, best to rewrite removing the reference.

As for taxis - as I myself was reminded recently Wikipedia is not a travel guide so the price of taxis is not necessary to include. Dowlingm 18:55, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
An anonymous user continues to add information regarding the price of taxis, fares being "reasonably priced and negotiable" and listing car rental firms and directions to them from the terminal building. None of this information is of encyclopedic relevance, and much of it will change from time to time, so it is not suitable for this article. As stated above Wikipedia is not a travel guide. Please refrain from adding this information as it will be removed. SempreVolando (talk) 13:40, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
This information is of great relevance to anyone viewing this page in preparation for a visit to cork airport. The information is accurate and up to date, which means it is of encyclopedic relevance.Please stop deleting my contrabutions as this article nor wikipedia belongs to you.
And nor does it to you. There is no need to be so hostile. The information is clearly not of encyclopedic relevance, once again Wikipedia is not a travel guide. SempreVolando (talk) 13:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Let's wait and come to consensus on the topic with other users. Please do not add the content again until we have come to agreement on what should / should not appear here with other editors. SempreVolando (talk) 14:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Runway[edit]

Someone has changed 17/35 from asphalt to concrete. I understood it to be asphalt, but am not confident enough in my understanding to change it back. Any ideas? Irlchrism 11:24, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

changed to asphalt again per Dublin Airport Authority website Dowlingm 16:33, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
definitely looks like asphalt from the airplane window (i worked at an asphalt mill)

Destinations[edit]

An anonymous editor has changed the destinations at Cork and Waterford airports to include the country of destination beside each. Since the vast majority of such airports are wikied I feel this is excessive and bloats the article. What do others think? Dowlingm 20:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I changed the Cork one - although not the Waterford one. I'm a bit surprised I wasn't automatically ogged in. I used a format I'd seen used at other airports (e.g. Warsaw). The main purpose was to provide separate links to the town served and the airport by including the airport code too. If anyone thinks it's overkill, I won't be grieviously offended if it's removed :-) Irlchrism 15:51, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I have reverted this back to the standard format, as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports. Thanks/wangi 16:11, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
On a similar but seperate matter... should we include destinations for charter flights? Ablaze 18:00, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

French[edit]

I've created a French stub for the airport. It's basically a traslation of the first paragraph with an onfobox. If anyone wants to take a look and up date, the link is Aéroport international de Cork Irlchrism 10:39, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Busiest Airports[edit]

The official Irish Government authority for Dublin, Shannon and Cork airports is the Dublin Airport Authority. The official website is www.dublinairportauthority.com/media-centre/annual-report/2005. Page 76 of the annual report shows passenger total passenger traffic for 2005 as Dublin 18,450,439, Shannon 3,302,424 and Cork 2,729,906. This means Dublin is 1st, Shannon is 2nd and Cork is 3rd busiest airport in the Republic of Ireland.BIARRITZ 20:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

But as is stated below, the Shannon figure includes passengers who never leave the aircraft. Shannon's figure is lower if these passengers aren't included. Should someone travelling from Dublin to Boston be included in Shannon's figures if they never leave the plane?57.80.136.6 12:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Is cork irelands 2nd or 3rd busiest airport? Shannon article states its the 4th busiest. Belfast international is also listed below as an airport of ireland. Ablaze 11:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

It depends on your definition of Ireland and whether you count transit passengers who don't leave the aircraft at Shannon. Any idea how these should be treated?Irlchrism 09:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Just wanted to add this statement from the Shannon website to inform further "Well over half a million passengers who travel through Shannon do so as transit passengers, breaking their journey at Shannon while traveling between Europe and North America.".Irlchrism 10:07, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
You need to use primary sources and reference any claim. Belfast is Northern Ireland, and part of the UK so should not be counted as a Republic of Ireland airport. What is the Irish equivalent of the CAA - do they publish statistics? Because if you don't do this it's original research... Thanks/wangi 10:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
The Irish Aviation Authority don't publish statistics in the manner the CAA do. However, the claim can be backed up using data obtained from the airports themselves. On the Cork Airport Website Figures Page, it states that the number who used Cork Airport was in excess of 2.729 million passengers. On the equivalent page for Shannon, we can see that the total number less transit passengers is 2,627,583. Irlchrism 18:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

2008 figures are out for both airports. Cork had 3.25 million (http://www.corkairport.com/business/012009.html). Shannon had 3.1 million (http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=82469-qqqx=1.asp - This URL is prone to change after a week due to archiving). So, it looks like we can now put this issue to bed 195.73.119.90 (talk) 11:10, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

"Main European hub"[edit]

I realise that Cork is nominally a Ryanair "base" but is it really accurate to say "It acts as a main European hub for both Ryanair and Aer Lingus"? From Cork Ryanair serves only Dublin, Liverpool, Gatwick and Stansted. Cork appears to be by far the smallest of Ryanair's official "bases" in Europe and to call it a "main European hub" for the airline seems a bit of a stretch. Ecozeppelin 10:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

In absence of comments, have deleted reference to "main European hub." Ecozeppelin 10:06, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

New Terminal[edit]

Just a question, what happened to the old terminal when the new one was opened? Jvlm.123 19:15, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

  • It has been mothballed. It is supposed to become the airport offices, but there have been suggestions that it could be reopened as a terminal for Low Cost airlines. A portion of the baggage handling area may be demolished to increase apron space Irlchrism 11:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Rory Gallagher Airport[edit]

This seems to be associated with a campaign to have the airport's name changed. Is it worth including? Irlchrism 11:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Lanzarote Airport[edit]

I've noticed that Lanzarote Airport is often referred to on this page as Arrecife in the destinations section, specifically with regard to Aer Lingus's destinations. I've reverted it back to Lanzarote because that is the name of the airport on Wikipedia, on Aer Lingus's website, Cork Airport's website, Lanzarote Airport's website and on the departure screens in Cork Airport. Clearly it's more commonly referred to as Lanzarote. Any particular reasons this keeps being reverted to Arrecife on this page? Dennisc24 (talk) 16:27, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Kavs8 reverted the name of Lanzarote in the destinations section to Arrecife. I've changed it back to Lanzarote. If anyone can give significant justification to it being Arrecife with the above points in mind, I'm sure Arrecife will be fine. Until then, Lanzarote should stay. Dennisc24 (talk) 17:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
It may be because Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/page content#Body #5 says to use the city name but some people feel that the name of the airport should be used. There was some relevant discussion of this at Talk:Cardiff Airport#Airport Name Changes. I think that for smaller islands like Lanzarote the most common/best know name should apply. So if the town of Saint Helier is better known than the island of Jersey then go with that. However, Jersey is probably the better known of the two and that should be used but it's not as the name of the airport but as the name of the island.

Recent news section[edit]

Is this section really necessary?? It basically just seems to cover anything that is already covered in the destinations section, or else mentions terminated routes. Viewing the wiki pages of almost any other airport, it's easy to see that terminated destinations should not be included on the page. Someone should improve this section, or else I think it shold be removed. Dennisc24 (talk) 21:47, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Definately not encyclopedic or relavant. Wikipedia is not a news service. Removed section. SempreVolando (talk) 09:32, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Previous Routes And Airlines[edit]

Last updated: 26th January 2014.

  • Aer Arann (Angers, Belfast-City, Brest, Dublin, Galway, Leeds-Bradford, Lorient, Nantes, Newquay, Southampton)
  • Aer Lingus (Berlin-Schönefeld, Birmingham*, Dublin, Frankfurt, London-Gatwick, Madrid, Manchester*, Milan-Malpensa, Prague, Warsaw-Chopin)
  • Aer Lingus Regional operated by Aer Arann (Cardiff, La Rochelle)
  • Air Southwest (Newquay, Plymouth)
  • Air Wales (Cardiff, Exeter, Plymouth, Swansea)
  • bmibaby (Birmingham, Cardiff, Durham Tees Valley, East Midlands, London-Gatwick, Manchester)
  • BMI Regional (Leeds-Bradford)
  • British Airways (Bristol, Glasgow-International, London-Gatwick, Manchester, Plymouth)
  • Brussels Airlines (Brussels)
  • Centralwings (Krákow, Warsaw-Chopin, Wrocław)
  • Czech Airlines (Prague)
  • Dan Air (London-Gatwick)
  • easyJet (London-Gatwick)
  • Jet2.com (Belfast-International, Newcastle upon Tyne)
  • JetMagic (Alicante, Barcelona, Belfast-City, Brussels, Edinburgh, Jersey, Liverpool, London-City, Milan-Malpensa, Nantes, Nice, Paris-Charles de Gaulle, Rome-Ciampino)
  • Malév Hungarian Airlines (Budapest)
  • Manx2 (Belfast-City, Galway)
  • Ryanair (Dublin, Glasgow-Prestwick, Kraków, La Rochelle, London-Luton, Warsaw-Modlin)
  • Sky Europe (Bratislava)
  • Wizz Air (Gdańsk, Katowice, Poznań, Vilnius, Warsaw-Chopin, Warsaw-Modlin, Wrocław)

* Although axed from mainline Aer Lingus, these routes were transferred to Aer Lingus Regional on 31 October 2010.

Full airlines list[edit]

I have listed all airlines & destinations together this gives a much clearer destination understanding.Kavs8 (talk) 21:41, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

It is easier to understand scheduled and charter flights when they are separated--Teddy455 (talk) 15:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Teddy455 have you read wiki policy? it says all destinations are to be listed with airlines attached! also it's pure lasyness as when you click that airline destinations (either charter/scheduled) are lasyness i will continue to revert your edits Teddy455 also if you continue to revert you can also begin to revert -> Dublin Airport, Shannon Airport, London Heathrow Airport, London Gatwick Airport, Birmingham Airport, Manchester Airport, Glasgow Airport thanks again:)Kavs8 (talk) 18:26, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Vandilism[edit]

We need to protect the Cork Airport wikipedia page (check history) vandilsim has to be un-done in most cases regurarly.Kavs8 (talk) 06:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Any opinions?Kavs8 (talk) 07:29, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree. A semi-protection is needed, just like the Dublin Airport article, to prevent this ongoing vandalism to the destination list. --Footyfanatic3000 (talk  · contribs) 11:36, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

New picture at top of page[edit]

Recently Kavs8 changed the picture at the top of this article. Personally, I think the previous picture was best. As it showed the airport at night, lit up and with an Irish plane in the distance... The new picture is at dusk, it looks to have rained, its got a Wizz Air plane that dominates the picture, and it is a personal opinion of myself that it is rather dreary! I didn't want to revert the picture without discussion. But I would prefer if it was. Any thoughts out there? --NorthernCounties (talk) 08:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

I think that I probably prefer the first one too actually. The Wizz Air picture could be used further down the page, and the old picture is better to put the top of the article. --Footyfanatic3000 (talk  · contribs)

I have a new picture of an aerial view of the new termianl and surrounding area should this be uploaded?? Kavs8 (talk) 21:42, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah that sounds good! Upload it and we'll see :) --Footyfanatic3000 (talk  · contribs) 21:59, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
I agree, this aerial view picture sounds promising!--NorthernCounties (talk) 22:17, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

I uploaded a picture approaching runway 17.. i also re-loaded the Wizz & the first pic^^ to the main page also. It was taken by my instructor in 2007 hard 1 to get may i ad! Kavs8 (talk) 09:44, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Great photo! Especially that you can see landing lights in full operation, and the terminal to the left! Well done getting it of your instructor! And thanks for re-adding the previous photo aswell!--NorthernCounties (talk) 09:50, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

No problem glad you liked them! Kavs8 (talk) 10:18, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

This article looks great with the all the new pictures! They illustrate the airport very well, good work.. 195.110.90.129 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:34, 14 June 2010 (UTC).

Destinations Map[edit]

I was just wondering would you consider making a map like they have in Lisbon Airport 79.97.111.246 (talk)

Aer Lingus to Frankfurt[edit]

Having seen the Frankfurt route added to Aer Lingus list earlier in the month, I started checking the airline's website regularly, but the route still has not shown up there. Wondering why this was, I contacted the airport directly to verify if in fact the route is going ahead and (regrettably) got the following reply:

"Thanks you for your feedback. While there would be market demand for a direct Cork-Frankfurt service, no Airline has yet made a commercial decision to operate such a service. While we have presented the strongest possible business case to the relevant Airlines, any decision would be for 2012 at the earliest."

Maybe there is something that I haven't heard of myself. Maybe it is something that the airport and Aer Lingus are keeping under wraps until such a time as they can confirm the route, or maybe it's not happening at all. As such, I feel it would be appropriate to remove this from the destinations section for the time being. Number10a (talk) 10:48, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Removed Frankfurt as a destination again as someone added it in without it being confirmed by either Aer Lingus or the airport. Number10a (talk) 16:43, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Frankfurt has now being replaved by Burssels. Jamie2k9 (talk) 02:12, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Orbest Orizonia Airlines[edit]

Do Orbest Orizonia Airlines fly out of cork all year round?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.60.199.83 (talk) 23:46, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes.Jamie2k9 (talk) 00:30, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

What days do Orbest Orizonia Airlines fly out of cork and are the flights all year round

Bus schedules[edit]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that the "bus schedule" table is problematic in terms of the "Wikipedia is not a guide book" guidelines? To my understanding of the guidelines, having what amounts to a bus schedule is not in keeping with the project tenets. It's hardly encyclopedic. A brief detail on the operators might be appropriate, but listing each bus number, the route and the stops is overkill for an article about the airport. This content is better suited to WikiVoyage (or the Airport website itself). Wikipedia isn't the place for it. (IMO) Guliolopez (talk) 16:39, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Agree wikipedia is not a travel guide. MilborneOne (talk) 18:45, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Guliolopez (talk) 23:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Lanzarote...[edit]

Calima Aviación / Calima Airlines are doing the Lanzarote flight this winter http://www.falconholidays.ie/fcfalcon/page/flightoptions/flightoptions.page?packageNumber=003802THPVIP1382273700000138229500000011113828644000001382878500000110&selectedBoardBasis=SC&sttrkr=mthyr:10/2013_tsrch:false_tuidesc:L00042_day:28_mps:9_sda:true_pconfig:1%7C2%7C0%7C0%7C0%7C/_tchd:0_rating:0_dess:true_act:0_jsen:true_attrstr:%7C%7C%7C%7C%7C%7C%7C%7Cnull%7Cnull_mdest:false_dursel:true_tinf:0_mnth:10_desc:357_bc:18_margindt:7_tadt:2_numr:1_depm:7_dur:7_dtx:0_dxsel:0_dac:ORK_loct:0_pps:false_tsnr:0_year:2013_dta:false__uc:003802_sd:20/10/2013_pid:003802THPVIP1382273700000138229500000011113828644000001382878500000110_bb:SC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.83.249.69 (talk) 15:20, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Edits only by registered users on this page[edit]

Hi, I'm requesting semi-protection for this article following recent abuses i.e. the adding of ad-hoc charters and removal of warnings which seek to prevent article vandalism by 84.156.58.3. Overall the article would be better protected from non-sourced edits by non-registered users like for example Dublin Airport.

Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. --ElHef (Meep?) 04:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

2013 passenger numbers[edit]

Hi. In recent days a number of edits have sought to add 2013 passenger numbers. But have not supported with reliable or valid cites. When the DAA or Cork Airport publish official 2013 numbers (or they are otherwise made available via the press or other reliable sources), then we can add them. Until that time, the numbers that are being added don't meet the WP:VER and WP:RELY guidelines. (For example, in this edit, numbers for all of 2013 were added - but the cite link references a press release from JANUARY 2013. In January 2013, there were no "cyrstalball" numbers available for the rest of the year, and even if the airport PR people had made a forecast in January, that forecast is NOT in that cite. Similarly, in this edit 2013 PAX numbers were "supported" with a link to a Tweet. Not only is Twitter very suspect under the WP:RELY guidelines, but the Tweet didn't even include the 2.3 million number which was added). Anyway, seriously lads, while these numbers might be valid, until they are actually published in reliable and verifiable sources, these additions are not inline with guidelines. It is better to have "older" confirmed numbers, than to have "newer" suspect ones. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 22:48, 16 February 2014 (UTC)