Talk:Dastan

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Broaden scope[edit]

Though I'm no expert, a wikipedia search of the term "Dastan" reveals that, as the Bangladesh project template above might indicate, Dastan originates and is important in a much wider area than Central Asia, which is given in the lede: "The Dastan (Persian for "story), is an ornate form of oral history from Central Asia."

I suggest we incorporate material from:

Iranian folklore
List of Urdu prose dastans (deleting this orphan article in the process)

It seems to me that mention should be made of the Hamzanama and The Tale of the Four Dervishes.

What do you think?--Annielogue (talk) 10:47, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What put me onto this was this article. ("Ghalib once wrote – It’s raining, I have a bottle of wine, six volumes of dastans – what else could I ask for?")--Annielogue (talk) 10:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What is a Puzag?[edit]

The only thing that comes up in a Google search is a place name in Afghanistan. The possible variations "Puzagh", "Puzhag", "Poozag" etc. yield nothing at all. WQUlrich (talk) 23:26, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge suggestion from Dastangoi[edit]

Both basically the same poetry style. Large part of "dastangoi" article actually speaks about history of dastan. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:36, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree. It's a distinct form and should remain as an own article. Regards, Akocsg (talk) 10:47, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I support the suggestion, since Dastan means a story and Dastangoi Storytelling, they may well be merged into one article.RezviMasood (talk) 14:26, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

i dont agree. Dastangoi is different than dastan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Accesscrawl (talk • contribs) 16:10, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

other languages[edit]

"dastan" is a common persian loanword in all turkic languages. there is no specific reason to add turkish variant while you can find that loanword in all of related cultures.188.158.68.79 (talk) 07:42, 15 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate versions/spellings[edit]

As in accordance with WP:LEAD and WP:DUE and more relevantly MOS:FORLANG, alternate versions and spellings like "destan" must be included in the article. I have done so now, which should be appropriate. Akocsg (talk) 19:45, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

actually all of those linked pages are against your edits. i explained why your changes are wrong.[3] and there is no "must" unless you provide a valid comment. you think you could do abyrhing just posting on talk?188.159.246.87 (talk) 13:03, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, they are not. It is a significant alternate spelling/version. So why should they be wrong? You don't decide that. There is no need for removal and edit-warring in the first place. Akocsg (talk) 13:18, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

no, you are wrong. alternative spellings should be notable and sourced, otherwise they are useless. what's the point of adding turkish spelling of a common persian loanword in turkic languages? is turkish spelling so special or what? how turkish spelling is realted to the whole content of this article while it's originally based in central asia?188.159.246.87 (talk) 13:30, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are clearly missing the point here, as well as a will to contribute constructively. And your childish accusations won't get you anywhere. Just read the rules I posted above. Plus destan is also the Kurdish version. It's not only Turkish. Here are two sources: ^[1]^[2] Akocsg (talk) 13:37, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Kurdish article: destan. Akocsg (talk) 13:40, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Usage in Turkish and other numerous non-English languages irrelevant. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:21, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, MOS:FORLANG says nothing to this end. Moreover, we have lots and lots of Arabic cultural terms, and we do not list their Turkish translations, unless they are used in English or at least mentioned in reliable English-language sources. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:21, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Uyghur dastan[edit]

Shouldn't it be mentioned in this article that the Uyghur people of Xinjiang, western China also have a tradition of dastan? 76.190.213.189 (talk) 20:19, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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