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[edit] FanBoys?
"Devo's music and stage show mingle kitsch science fiction themes, deadpan surrealist humor, and mordantly satirical social commentary via sometimes-discordant pop songs that often feature unusual synthetic instrumentation and time signatures, and their work has proved hugely influential on subsequent popular music, particularly New Wave, industrial and alternative rock artists."
I'm surprised this person had time to let go of Devo's dicks and type this shit. Could this be any more pretentious?
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[edit] Equipment
I'd like to see a listing of equipment used by Devo and when if anyone is knowledgeable on the topic.
[edit] Devo 2.0 section edit
The line with '...to mixed reviews' should be supported with facts or removed. --Magus2 19:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Oh, No! It's Demos!
Would whoever is changing the name of the album "Oh, No! It's Demos!" to "Oh, No! It's Devo!" please stop? There is a compilation disc named "Oh, No! It's Demos!" released in '82. This is not a mispelling of "Oh, No! It's Devo!". They are totally different albums. -St. Jimmy
I think it should be removed from the list completely. Fan made compilations should be left out... (see this link for info on the disc: http://www.sanspoint.com/basement/audiopages/D003.html ) --Weirdal 02:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] WordIQ Devo article
Is WordIQ affiliated with Wikipedia?
This page is word for word: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Devo - Tezkah
Ah, they're just using Wikipedia information to install spyware on users computers. Oh well! - Tezkah
Actually, many sites use wikipedia information, and just copy and paste it into their own "encyclopedias". A prime example is dictionary.com's "encyclopedia", which mostly just features wikipedia articles - Bagel7
[edit] Article needs ?
This article needs lots. It's woefully inadequate for a band this influential.
It needs a picture of the infamous hats in the style section
Added a picture of the Energy Domes to style section. -cmad
--ME--I'm not registered or anything. There are some things I would like to see added. For example, Soundgarden were HUGE and they did a cover of Girl You Want, and I saw Devo commenting on it somewhere. I can't remember who exactly or what he said exactly, but he pretty much said he didn't like it very much because he felt that they had already D-evolved the original song a lot, so the slow soundgarden version just didn't work. I would like to see quotes like that in there. Also, anything they said about Nirvana would be nice, seeing as they were pretty much the biggest band in the world in the last 20 years or more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.30.210.136 (talk) 16:20, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Discography template
I added a discography template to all the albums; the Total Devo page needs severe working on, and there's no Smooth Noodle Maps page at all! Stev0 04:18, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
I've cleaned up Total Devo and Smooth Noodle Maps' pages. All of their core studio albums are now covered. Tenniru 03:02, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Touring?
"After the release of Smooth Noodle Maps in 1990, the band stopped recording and full scale touring, although it has been revived on several occasions for one-off performances and short tours in 1996, 2000 and 2004."
I've left this in for the moment but it doesn't appear to be true. They are on tour in 2005 as well. We should probably check if they were on tour in some of the other years or make it less specific. Secretlondon 23:13, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
They are also touring in 2006. I saw them on Sunday evening in Los Angeles. -St. Jimmy
[edit] MTV
"Devo might have remained a cult attraction but for the advent of American cable TV music station MTV. They scored a major success in 1980 with their third album Freedom of Choice and the single 'Whip It', which became a big hit thanks to regular MTV screenings of its unique music video."
I'm disputing that and removing it. Whip It was released in mid 1980 and became a radio hit single almost immediately. MTV didn't exist until August 1981, and it remained relatively obscure for some time; many people heard of MTV and knew what it was, but few had actual access to it. For the first year or two of its existence, MTV was not carried by all major cable television providers, which is why there was the ubiquitious "I Want My MTV" campaign that ran throughout 1982 and 1983. While to some degree MTV might have kept the song in the public consciousness for a while longer than otherwise would have been the case, it played no part in the song becoming a hit. Aside from that, I recall an interview with Jerry Casale where he mentioned that the video was made after the song was already a hit, and that it was influenced by certain misconceptions radio DJs and the public at large had about the meaning of the song. Druff 21:10, 26 Aug 2005 (UTC)
I second Druff's corrections. I interviewed Jerry Casale in 1985, and during the interview he derided MTV for their abandonment of the band from their playlist, and pointed out that the network had claimed - falsely - that they were responsible for giving Devo all of their video exposure and made "Whip It!" a hit. - G0m3r
In the early days of cable before MTV, Home Box Office would play music videos in-between movies to round-out the hour. Eventually HBO seeded the music video role to MTV. MTV is not the sole outlet for videos in the 1980-1981 time-frame. -- Charles Gaudette 08:33, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I am in the process of collection sources for information on the period of time where video equipment became more readily available, around 1977, until the beginning of MTV in 1981. Many bands were pioneers in music videos, which were played in clubs like Hurrah and Danceteria in NYC. My sources thus far are the Museum of Modern Art and The Rolling Stone book of rock video by Michael Shore. I hope to edit this article and others when my research is complete. I am a newbie to Wikipedia -- just a person who was a fan back in the day and trying to fill in some gaps here from the books I have in my collection about punk, new wave, post-punk, etc. DarkCompanion (talk) 12:26, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Members
Something else this page needs: a list of members. I came to this page looking to find out when Josh Freese joined. I still haven't found it.
I can tell you when he was "officially" ousted. On January 15,2012 - at The Uptown Theater in Napa,California , Jerry Casale announced Jeff Friedl as their latest permanent drummer. Harvey J Satan (talk) 07:45, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Devo vs DEVO
I've noticed there's a lot of discrepency on various Wikipedia articles on the "all-caps" spelling of Devo. I think it should be clarified whether or not they're called "Devo" or "DEVO". I'm not sure if there was ever an official spelling or not, but the articles aren't consistent about this. Just so you guys know.
Per Mark Mothersbaugh in 1993, it can be spelled either way. "Be all caps. Or not" was the exact quote, a reference to a closer line used at the end of many concerts, "Be happy. Or not."
Per the rules of normal typography (which we stick to for wikipedia articles), though, it should thus just be "Devo". Writing it in block caps will make some readers think its an acronym.--feline1 10:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I'll add my comments: Yes, it appears that Devo is a proper noun from "Devolution"; the band's name is not the acronym DEVO. Wikipedians should strictly enforce the proper noun format. But, if any of the artwork titles have DEVO (in capitals) in them as listed by credible sources (for instance, Billboard Magazine) then that should remain as originally titled. --Charles Gaudette 08:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- All the artwork is in capitals because that's just how it appears, all the wording is all in caps for the most part. And I personally just don't like having it read DEVO because it makes you scream DEVO in your head... Plus I'm pretty sure when reading the backs of tapes, CDs etc. they generally use both, so it doesn't really matter, but i don't think it should be typed DEVO throughout the article cuz thats just annoying.Thakmere (talk) 01:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
They have used it both ways.. as well as "Dev-O." In all of their recent press releases, Twitter postings, and Facebook postings, they are using the all caps version "DEVO." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.152.70.214 (talk) 06:25, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Home Video Releases + The Beginning Was The End
I just added links to DEVO's various home video releases, and a stub article on The Beginning Was the End. Let's fill these in, Spuds! DarKrow 02:24, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kent State
Just wanted to say that Bob Mothersbaugh said in an interview that he was at Kent State during the riots as well. Quote is from an interview at http://www.sanspoint.com/basement/bob1.html. 130.157.66.153
[edit] Industrial
The part of the article about Devo mentioning their music as "industrial" in a late '70s interview is not accurate - It is widely known that Monte Cazazza & Genesis P-Orridge coined this term (in the context of their music/art) in '75 or earlier. In fact the label on which Throbbing Gristle released their music, starting in '76, was called Industrial Records.
In the liner notes of their "Greatest Hits" album, there is a transcript of a late '70s interview in which the band describes their music as "industrial", underscoring the dehumanization (devolution) of their art. (In this context, the term predates the posthumous application of the label to '70s avant-garde noise bands such as Throbbing Gristle.)
[edit] Interstate '82
I'm kind of surprised that nobody's mentioned the work that Devo did for the game Interstate '82 - if I remember correctly, they did the tracks Faster And Faster (used during the mine escape), Kaboom! (used during various desert/highway battles), and One Dumb Thing (end credits). --SpecOp Macavity 13:43, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Live Albums in the 00's and Career Albums in the 80's
The band is not working on Career Albums this year. I kind of think that they can make a album called Freedom Of Choice 2. But Devo's Whip It went on iTunes for Devo's Top 10. It ranked number 1. Why are'nt they??? There are good! Put more songs! It ranked #14 on Billboard! --Sonic79267 21:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)Sonic79267
[edit] DEV-O
On 14:23, 1 August 2006, User:17.232.151.165 made an edit and said "(Dev-O is not a proper spelling of Devo; it is not found on any of their albums, and does not reflect the origin of the name. "de-evolution".)". This is not true: they released the album DEV-O Live, obviously.Derek Balsam 14:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Discography
Why no discography page for Devo?
- There's one now! DarKrow 23:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Manifesto
HOW CAN THERE BE NO DEVO MANIFESTO?!?!
- The Devo manifesto means: - #Be like your ancestors or be different, it doesn't matter. - #Lay a million eggs or give birth to one, so shall your species survive. - #Wear gaudy colors or avoid display, it's all the same. - #The fittest shall survive yet the unfit shall live. - #We must repeat.
Somebody more knowledgable than me, PLEASE ADD THIS. -BudhaCronX 22:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- That's the Devolutionary Oath, and taken from Jocko Homo Heavenbound DarKrow 04:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Actually rather popular in the UK
If anyone cared to look at the discography it may be noted that the band had several small hits in the UK two years before the US breakthrough, and had more hits in the UK than the US. The UK New Wave scene quickly embraced the band, who had several successful tours and were distributed by the two biggest/well known independent record labels. They were also featured cover artists on issues by all the leading music papers, who covered their theories as well as their releases and gigs. Not that you would know any of this from reading this article. LessHeard vanU 22:06, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The movie Heavy Metal is missing
I notice that the movie Heavy Metal is not mentioned.
Devo not only has two songs in the film, but performed (animated) in the film.
In the last section of the movie Heavy Metal, Taarna is searching for the Loc-Nar and stops in a bar to gather information. Devo, or an later animated version is playing 'Through Being Cool' at the bar.
Just thought other fans should know. ( Someone with writting skills should update both sites)
--LifeIsStudy 05:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Urgh! A Music War Appearance
Devo also appeared in the Stewart Copeland produced documentary film Urgh! A Music War performing Uncontrollable Urge. Would it be appropriate to create a section for film appearances? (Releaux (talk) 14:33, 23 April 2010 (UTC))
[edit] Should there even be a DEVO 2.0 section?
Should there really be an entire section for DEVO 2.0 within the DEVO article. If anything this is a side project that already has it's own page. Why include so much info here? Ridernyc 04:43, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Devo Picture
TopherMadden 22:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC) I e-mailed the webmaster of the official Devo page to tell him about the picture here being removed and he e-mailed me back a picture of the band he said that "we have the right to use." Anyway, I only know little about editing here, so if anyone would like me to forward this e-mail to them with the picture and credentials included, please contact me via wikipedia (I would post my e-mail, but I'm not sure it's allowed)...
- Thanks for doing that, Topher! I'm not quite sure what the next step is, but I have asked for help from an admin, Shell Kinney, who has assisted me before. Presumably there is an email address to which this message from the webmaster can be forwarded, but I'm not sure what it is. None of the links at Wikipedia:Contact us seem to match this situation, so hopefully Shell can help us out. --GentlemanGhost 01:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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- I forwarded the e-mail sent to me by Michael Pilmer, Devo webmaster, to the above address, along with a brief message. Please tell me if there is anything more I can do. Glad to help my fellow Devotees. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TopherMadden (talk • contribs) 18:38, 17 June 2007
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[edit] Brian Chojnowski?
I removed "Brian Chojnowski" from the Former members section unless someone can provide a citation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.99.245 (talk • contribs)
- A Google search for "Brian Chojnowski" "Devo" only gives results from the Wikipedia articles for Devo and Kent State University. Doesn't sound legitimate at all. I've never heard of this guy. --Lyght 05:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:BANDDevoLOGO.svg
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[edit] Contradiction
The article states that Devo's first performance was in 1971 at Kent State, but then it later says that the first incarnation of Devo assembled in 1973. Can someone clarify this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.214.150 (talk) 17:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Radio interview
http://ckuw.ca/index.php/schedule
I made an edit saying that there was an interview in which Gerald Casale states that Devo was not releasing a new album. But someone said it was a broken link, so I thought I would explain in more detail. The above link takes you to the archives of a particular station. Click on "jump to a show" then scroll to "radio schizophrenio".
Another window should be brought up with a list of past shows (link):
http://ckuw.ca/cgi-bin/ckuw-gridnew.pl?show=4%2C00%3A00&action=showaudio
The Thursday, April 17th, 2008 show is a Devo special in which the host interviews Gerald Casale. Somewhere in the first hour he makes the above statement. Just click "steam" to listen to it. Just to make it clear to people. (Stapler 9 42 (talk) 01:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC))
Someone check the article and remove the the text that follows the reading of the article. It says something about Avril Troll. Someone with more HTML knowledge than I have should take care of it.
Thanks Jay Jayguy95@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.192.38.172 (talk) 03:33, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Album Title "Fresh!"
Re-reading the wording in the article cited, I'm not sure if we should be jumping to conclusions about the new album title. Casale said, "Regardless of the final title, it will be 'Fresh!'" not "The final title will be 'Fresh!'". You could interpret that he's saying the album title will be new, and he makes reference to the song "Fresh" in the process. Just thought I'd put that out there until we've confirmed it. Stapler 9 42 (talk) 23:57, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
[edit] "quirk and jerk"
I am curious about the use of this term to describe Devo's music. I first heard this description around their first Saturday Night Live performance in 1978. I thought it was or would become a common term for describing Devo's style, referring to their discordant, twitchy, robotic sounds and movements. Yet I have never heard its use again. Is it possible that it was coined by an earlier reviewer and never caught on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.220.3.235 (talk) 20:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to suggest eliminating the word "poshumously" from the article. It is confusing. No one has died. Perhaps "post break-up."Cospelero (talk) 17:06, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Is Devo not techno?
Maybe my understanding of techno is not exactly by the books (and "new wave" is more accurate), but Devo was the epitome of techno for us youngsters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.3.39.232 (talk) 21:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
- Devo is definitely not Techno it may have been borderline proto-techno as described in the article, but most of their work just doesn't hit it like Kraftwerk does (proto.) Centerone (talk) 09:13, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Dare to be Stupid
Should we mention Weird Al's parody of Devo, "Dare to be Stupid"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MaraquanWocky (talk • contribs) 20:57, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Any more than the numerous other DEVO parodies? "Al" was not unique in his premise , and not the first , as proven on the KROQ / DEVOTEES album , featuring many pre-AL , parodies.
"Weird" used to tell a story , about after the release of his album "In 3-D" , where he used a snippet of "Jocko Homo" in the albums' polka medley. He was label-mates with DEVO , and met Jerry and Mark at a corporate function , where they jokingly razzed him about not being worthy of a "full song parody". So... he writes and records "Dare To Be Stupid" , upon the albums' release he meets Jerry & Mark at another party , and they wouldn't even talk to him! ( Apparently being referred to as "stupid" , didn't go down so well. ). ( Not to mention "Weird" stole the title from a show he saw by the comedy group "Ducks Breath Mystery Theater". ) Harvey J Satan (talk) 07:58, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Kent or Akron
I changed the city of origin to Kent instead of Akron based on the source from Bob Lewis. I am fully aware that the Devo website says the band formed in Akron, Ohio, but that could also mean the Akron area, which Kent is a part of. Lewis has a rather explicit quote that states that Devo is "not a phenomenon of Akron, Ohio" and the first performance of the Sextet Devo was most definitely in Kent at KSU (link to photos in a "see also" for the Lewis citation). While the founders came from Akron or the Akron area, the details from Lewis indicate that he and Casale were in Kent at the time they came up with the band and were heavily influenced by what happened during the Kent State shootings in 1970. --JonRidinger (talk) 05:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
I put the Akron metropolitan area as the origin being that both cities are in it and the statement comes from a non current member who co-founded the old lesser known group. The Devo website and other websites claiming it to be Akron are more reliable and i think Kent is known enough through the University to fall under Akron which is in a different county. Not all Motown artist did their first performance in Detroit but have it as their origin, so we cant really rely on that.--Duename (talk) 13:48, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- The history in this article and the Devo website puts the origins of the group at the "Sextet Devo" group which was formed in Kent. That Bob Lewis isn't a "current" member is irrelevant; he was one of the founders and is listed as such. Being a former member does not invalidate that fact. The first performance being in Kent is part of it; Casale and Lewis were living in Kent at the time they came up with the idea (Lewis graduated from KSU in 1970) and mention frequently the effects the events at KSU had on them in forming the band. I have no idea what you mean by "Kent is known enough through the University to fall under Akron which is in a different county". Kent is part of the Akron metropolitan area, but the infobox doesn't ask for "metro area of origin" it asks for city of origin. Kent is notable enough because of the university to stand on its own, on top of the fact that this is Wikipedia, so we can be more specific. What other Motown artists/bands have as their city of origin is irrelevant here since we're not talking about a genre that is clearly and easily associated with one city (Detroit). And in many larger cities, people often fail to differentiate between the central city and the suburbs. --JonRidinger (talk) 15:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- Also, this link to Chapter 7 of their book "We are Devo" seems to indicate the origins of the band are at Kent State (the band was formed just before the first performance at KSU and as a result of that festival) as all the talk is about Kent and the university; no mention of Akron is made. I would love to get the entire book to see if there is anything else that explains it more definitively. I do think using "Akron metropolitan area" is a bit vague, especially for a Wikipedia article. --JonRidinger (talk) 15:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
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- As for their "current form", that doesn't negate the origins of the group, which detailed sources put at Kent State, not only physically but where the ideas were formed and developed. This isn't a case of Lewis giving his opinion that Devo was started in Kent, he's telling what happened. The separate Devo book, which incorporates all or most Devo members, backs this up and is clear of any possible question of neutrality or bias. It's not so much him changing or contradicting history as it is being more specific. Akron is also "widely accepted" as the general Akron area, and many people do not differentiate between the various cities and towns around Akron. The same is true with any metro area; people will say something is from "New York", "Chicago", or "Cleveland" when it was actually from a suburb or nearby smaller city. In Wikipedia we do not have to use the broad definition because we have wikilinks and additional sources which narrow down "Akron metropolitan area" to Kent. Doesn't mean Kent is where the band fully developed or even rose to fame; it only means that's where the band had its beginnings (i.e. origin), in this case both physically (guys getting together to play) and as an idea (the "devolution" idea was clearly developed at KSU). It also doesn't mean that the band did not have anything happen in Akron. But there is a difference between developments and origins. Akron seems to be where the band "matured", but not where its origins are. Sextet Devo is the origin of "modern" Devo, which is why it's mentioned on this article and why it's mentioned in the Devo book. It's connected not only in the Devo name, but with members as well. It's not like they started Sextet Devo, broke up, then started a new band called Devo. No, they started Sextet Devo and it evolved and developed from there to what it is now. Nothing abnormal or unusual about that at all. --JonRidinger (talk) 00:28, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sextet Devo is a precursor, which may or may have not formed in Kent, to Devo. Many rock n roll groups had name and member switch before their current form. My point about him being a former member is that constantly through history they say things contrary to popular opinion in order to gain relevance. For years Akron has widely been accepted as Devo's origin, without members really publicly denouncing it. I can list numerous of bands and solo artist who formed in their hometown but has New York or Los Angeles as their origin cause they moved there and became famous. So your move of their origin to Kent from Akron was more opinionated than my move to the Akron metropolitan area which includes both cities, and other cities they were most likely located at when choosing to form. --Duename (talk) 22:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
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- May you provide the sentence that directly states Devo formed in Kent, from a detailed source? Yonkers and New York City are really close, yet it is widely stated that DMX is from the former, such is the case with many other artist. As I came close to saying in my above post, (guys getting together to play) happened in many hometowns of bands that have New York City or Los Angeles as their origin cause they relocated and gained fame there, though the hometown was in a different state.--Duename (talk) 15:42, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- If you're looking for a sentence that says "Devo formed in Kent" then you won't find it. The detailed histories are the ones I have already cited, that being Bob Lewis's own words and the Devo book "We Are Devo", both of which show that the founders were living in Kent at the time of the formation of the band and that the band formed as a result of experiences at KSU. I don't have a problem listing "Kent and Akron, Ohio" in the "origin" since Kent is obviously where the band had it's beginnings as an idea (the whole de-evolution concept) and as a physical entity. It is also where Lewis and Casale were living when they came up with the idea to make a band (Lewis mentions "coming back to Kent in 1972" even though he had already graduated in 1970). Akron, on the other hand, is where the band was when they gained fame playing at the Crypt, so it's easy to see why it is often associated with the beginnings of the band. It's where the band was when they were "discovered", so is also part of the origins. But to ignore where the band really started doesn't do the reader any service. The band formed in Kent and developed further and became famous in Akron. Note the opening sentence in this article even uses 1973 as the founding year (i.e. Sextet Devo), which was in Kent. Perhaps it needs to be expanded upon to indicate it formed in Kent and later moved to or rose to fame in Akron. --JonRidinger (talk) 17:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- May you provide the sentence that directly states Devo formed in Kent, from a detailed source? Yonkers and New York City are really close, yet it is widely stated that DMX is from the former, such is the case with many other artist. As I came close to saying in my above post, (guys getting together to play) happened in many hometowns of bands that have New York City or Los Angeles as their origin cause they relocated and gained fame there, though the hometown was in a different state.--Duename (talk) 15:42, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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[edit] Futurama
Is it worth mentioning that Devo appeared as mutated versions of themselves on Futurama? It was in the episode 'The Mutants Are Revolting.' It was broadcast on September 2, 2010, and Mark Mothersbaugh voiced himself. Legionaireb (talk) 22:38, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Surprisingly - amazingly - there doesn't seem to be a Devo in Popular Culture section, which heartens me. Of all the bands that I would expect to have an In Popular Culture section, complete with a page-filling list of trivial meaningless references in Family Guy, the Simpsons, and especially Futurama, this band would be near the top of the list. So, admirable restraint there. To answer your question, it would not be worth mentioning etc. It's just fluff. As I understand it the long-term management strategy for this impulse is to hive such lists off to a separate X in Popular Culture article, which will just shrivel up until at some point it is deleted. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 15:36, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
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