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I have added the children's literature project template to this article as this author is considered a major influence on Girls Story writing in the UK in the early 20th century --Abbeybufo 14:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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~~This article lacks an introduction.~~ done Abbeybufo 11:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
~~It lacks references altogether. Add reference section and citations!~~ done - though more may come --Abbeybufo 16:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Lacks a description of Oxenhams authorship. Some of her books are mentioned, but there is nothing about her literary style, her development as an author, the chronology of her books, her motivations, her language, etc., etc. think this fixed now --Abbeybufo (talk) • (contribs) 11:18, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The biography section is more interested in her career as a dancer and campfire girl, and where she lived and a few anecdotes, than in life changing experiences that may have influenced her authorship. Who was she, really? How does she use her background in her writings? Etc., etc... done - I hope! --Abbeybufo 16:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

-Duribald 23:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this - I deliberately went light on the books themselves as there are separate articles on them and I didn't want to duplicate information too much. All her books are listed between the 3 articles Abbey Series, Abbey Connectors and Oxenham Non-Connectors which are linked from this article, and I thought it best to show just a few relevant aspects of Oxenham's life in the article itself. Perhaps I should have a major re-think about this --Abbeybufo 11:19, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've added some refs/citations now, and will no doubt add more over the next few days. Also there is now a lead para --Abbeybufo 11:54, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article should be self-contained. The links are there for those who want further elaboration or explanation. If the Abbey books, for example, are an essential part of her career as a writer, then they, and the story behind them, should be presented, at least briefly. The main article on the Abbey series itself, then, can elaborate more on the subject. This is not meant to be negative criticism. I think you're doing good work. :-) -Duribald 16:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough - I'll do some work over the next few days to bring the books more into the article, and try and show more clearly how the dancing, camp fire etc influenced her writing - thanks for the encouragement --Abbeybufo 20:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

have done a bit more - should be adding yet more on places in the next few days --Abbeybufo 16:13, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like you're aiming for an A rating in the end. Keep up the good work! -Duribald 00:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone selling content from here that should be free[edit]

I have recently discovered that a Print On Demand (POD) ‘publisher’ in the US is offering a 26-page ‘book’ called Novels by Elsie J. Oxenham: Abbey Connectors, Abbey Series, Oxenham Non-Connectors (Study Guide) (ISBN: 1156856264) for about $15.00 or the local currency equivalent. This appears to be directly copied from four articles on Wikipedia that are largely my work, and that I put on there for free internet use. When I ‘signed up’ to the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License (CC-BY-SA) and the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL), that Wikipedia writers agree to abide by, I did not envisage my altruism stretching so far as other people making a profit from it. It seems that this firm, Books LLC, offer other POD ‘Study Guides’ – which one is forced to conclude may themselves be ‘lifted’ from Wikipedia or other free sources. So along with all the other reasons to be wary of POD titles, comes the fact that people may be being inveigled into parting with their cash for something that is freely available on line Abbeybufo (talk • contribs) 10:44, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]