Talk:Euclid of Megara

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Isn't there something more to write about one of the greatest mathematicians of all time? What about his works? It would be nice to add a link to them somewhere...

For the mathematician Euclides, see Euclid of Alexandria. This article is about Euclid of Megara.

Where are the citations?

ambiguous[edit]

Why does Euclides automatically link here rather than to the disambiguation page? Sephia karta 11:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Restored the image[edit]

The medieval portrait of Euclid of Megara by Justus of Ghent (Urbino, Galleria Nazionale delle Marche) frequently and mistakenly appears in reference to Euclid of Alexandria. A high quality full image is available at aiwaz.net, and the inscription EVKLIDI MEGAREN at the bottom is clearly visible. However, the copyright status of their image is not clear to me. Therefore, I dared not substitute it for the deficient version at the commons. Arcfrk 06:05, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

It probably is supposed to be Euclid of Alexandria actually. It comes from a set of panels depicting very famous men (Aristotle, Ptolemy, Cicero, various saints, etc.). He's depicted with a pair of compasses which implies he's meant to be a mathematician too. The fact that he's labelled as "Euklidi Megaren" is presumably medieval confusion - I've added a caption to this effect. Singinglemon (talk) 22:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Removed contribution 8 December[edit]

I removed the lengthy contribution [1] added by 76.102.10.239 on the 8 December, for the following reasons:

  • Firstly, there were no references. The whole contribution read like an essay, which had been copied and pasted into Wikipedia. Ideally, every fact or assertion should have an inline citation, otherwise the information is liable to be removed. See WP:CS and WP:REF
  • Secondly there were errors, (eg. "Euclid's home became a sort of refuge and discussion center for those followers of Socrates who lost their inspirational figure and feared the wrath of Roman tyrants.") which is why inline citations are so important, without references, people coming to the article for the first time cannot tell if the information is reliable.
  • Thirdly, a lot of what was added was simply restating what was in the article already. Simply saying things like "Most sources record his birth in Megara, ... other sources report his birth to be in the city of Gela" when this is information is already provided in this article with references is strange.
  • Fourthly, the article needs to be focused on Euclid himself. There can be a bit of information on what his legacy was, but since there is already a page on the Megarian school, that's the appropriate page to add information about the legacy of the later school.

This page does need more information, both on him, and his philosophy. But we need to know which scholars are asserting this information (inline references to textbook/article with a page number are fine), otherwise noone can tell if the information is reliable or not, and noone will use it. Please see WP:BETTER. Singinglemon (talk) 01:26, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Right, on the basis that this school project is now well-finished, I've removed all the new stuff which was already duplicated on the page, as well as a lot of the superfluous stuff on the philosophy of the Megarian school. The main bit I've left in is a chunky paragraph on the philosophy of Euclid, which may be worth keeping, although it will have to be integrated and referenced more thoroughly. Singinglemon (talk) 23:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)