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On 9 May 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo to Hemedti. The result of the discussion was Moved.

Which transliteration should be the default?[edit]

It's clear that this person is very rarely referred to as "Dagalo", and many mainstream media sources don't even include "Dagalo" in his name. WP:GOOGLEHITS are only a weak guide to notability, but for choosing a transliteration for what is "preferred in English language media/academia", I don't see any obvious alternatives. Right now I get:

"Hemedti" TMC - 20k

"Hemeti" TMC - 23k

"Hemetti" TMC - 131k

I presume that the double "tt" is supposed to correspond to دت in the Arabic original - maybe from the pronunciation? Or because nobody expects English speakers to include "dt" in the middle of a word? Anyway, I'll set this as the default now. If anyone has good arguments for changing, please give them here, and if there are no objections within a reasonable delay (passive consensus - since there are very few editors right now), then update. Boud (talk) 23:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify - Hemetti wins the google hits competition above, which is what I've put. Feel free to provide better arguments for an alternative choice. Boud (talk) 23:16, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

correcting the photo[edit]

The photo that pop-ups is NOT for Hemiti, it is for another Sudanese military leader and his name is Ibn Ouf. here are photos for Hemiti — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.Saleh (talk • contribs) 04:13, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In the the present version, there is no photo. If you have a window popping up with a photo, then it is nothing to do with Wikipedia. Boud (talk) 05:38, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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We should be careful the RSF militia hired a PR expert to alter his Wikipedia pages[edit]

Hi All, I came across this report by African Intelligence, it mentioned that the RSF militia hired a french PR expert to polish its image, part of the campaign is to alter relevant Wikipedia pages, I highly recommend paying attention to new edits and maintaining they are aligned with Wikipedia rules and Polices. here is the report

https://www.africaintelligence.com/eastern-africa-and-the-horn/2023/02/09/hemeti-seeks-spin-doctor-in-europe,109911778-art?fbclid=IwAR2MhqLu-ZGpcYlkhhPg8w9vTnVmgN8XGT0eQLovJwGD6_sg5OJd0mJQmw0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6080:8B04:1A0D:DCAB:F442:5E21:6202 (talk) 13:43, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This reporting was essentially repeated today by Al-Jazeera [1]. Looking at this article and its linked counterparts on fr.wiki and ar.wiki, I'm not really seeing any evidence of successful PR editing, as discussion of Dagalo's abysmal human rights record is rather prominent across all three (although it does seem that of the three, en.wiki has the most negative portrayal, with more discussion of this aspect of the biography in the lead). Nevertheless, we should be on the lookout here and at related articles. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 15:41, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't notice anything obvious either. A possible PR edit could be this set of edits on 27 Sep 2022, which stuck around for nearly two months (fixed by Sundostund). Boud (talk) 16:54, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Totally fake[edit]

References from 2019 only,misleading and lies. This person must have been getting help from rich people with false information. I hope his fate stays in Sudan for a rich person who gets away .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.119.233.218 (talk) 03:43, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 May 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerium (talk) 09:59, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo → Hemedti – According to the article itself, it is what he is commonly referred to. Jay-Z's article isn't titled Shawn Corey Carter, and we shall follow that same logic. Open to other spellings Bremps! 00:54, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Support per WP:COMMONNAME. I've raised this exact point before on 2023 Sudan conflict. 〜 Festucalex • talk 09:09, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - not 100% sure which spelling of Hemedti is the most common but it's pretty clear that some spelling of that moniker is the COMMONNAME. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 14:52, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This is similar to the cases of William Jefferson Clinton and Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., who are rarely called by those names, and not even William Clinton or Joseph Biden. My impression is that Hemedti has become dominant in the more serious sources over Hemetti, probably because the "dt" is a better transcription of Arabic: دت in Arabic: حميدتي ("Hemidti" or "Hemydti" would appear to be even better transcriptions, but I haven't noticed them used, and I have no idea what the pronunciation frequencies are). Boud (talk) 16:14, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support Per above. PalauanReich^🗣️ 21:59, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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