Talk:Hestercombe House

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
May 30, 2007	Good article nominee	Not listed
June 14, 2014	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 7, 2007.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that a Junkers Ju88 was shot down and crashed on the drive of historic Hestercombe House on 28 March 1944?

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Comments[edit]

I think there is an chronological problem in the gardens section, it is stated "The gardens were laid out by Gertrude Jekyll and Edwin Lutyens for Coplestone Warre Bamfylde" - as Coplestone Warre Bamfylde, died 1791, I don't see how Lutyens and Jeckyl could have designed the gardend for him. Giano 16:41, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This si taken from the English Heritage listing of the gardens at Images of England entry for Garden walls, paving and steps on the South front of Hestercombe House, but I will reword to overcome this.— Rod ^talk 17:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the layout in 1904-06 was for the Hon EWB Portman. — Rod ^talk 20:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I remember that the planted plat at Hestercombe— in the form of a square with a saltire criss-cross, I remember— was replanted in the 1970s (?) according to a surviving Gertrude Jekyll planting plan— by the Somerset Volunteer Fire Brigade!— a memorable and enviable mark of the general level of culture in the UK, I thought as an American. I was introduced there to Bergenia, which a gardener of Miss Jekyll's generation, perhaps Elwes, dubbed "pigsqueak". --Wetman 07:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Failed GA[edit]

This article has failed its GA because of criteria two, references. I feel that this article needs way more references on a lot of the statements, in all of the sections (including the intro). With the references included I think that this article will do nicely. Dooms Day349 00:10, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What else is needed to get this article to GA?[edit]

What else do people think would be needed to get this article to meet the Good article criteria?— Rod ^talk 18:20, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hestercombe House/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:51, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll do the usual - make straightforward copyedits as I go and jot notes below: Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:51, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

this ref mentions the fire brigade leasing it in 1953 and it falling into disrepair around this time - helps with chronology and should be added.

~~Para 3 of House section has no references.~~

Last sentence of that section looks lonely all by itself - can it be put onto a para or expanded?

Gardens section has several small paras that could be joined I think.

~~First sentence of para 3 in lead shouldn't start with "It.."~~

~~I get the impression the article needs a bit more filling out material-wise - it just comes across as a bit brief but I can't put my finger on what's missing....~~

More later.

I've had a go at some of the suggestions above and will await more. There is more on the garden in the German wikipedia, but I've looked at it (with google translate) and can't really see which other details should be included.— Rod ^talk 19:19, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Right - that is interesting. ~~This article needs a location like in the German one.~~

garden section needs expanding - info on Dutch Garden for starters - and some on key plant species used. Some of the German article veers a little too much into general info about Jekyll/Luytens but not much.

I've had a go - can you take another look and see if you think I have included enough?— Rod ^talk 09:11, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that's looking better...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Describing Penelope Hobhouse as a "garden writer, designer, lecturer and television presenter" seems a bit effusive - can't we just use 1-2 descriptors?~~

I took that from our article about her - shortened to "garden writer and designer".— Rod ^talk 14:57, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah better. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:06, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just left a couple of ^{[citation needed]} tags - one would be good for the view but I suspect that may be hard...yet is obvious?

I've added some more (including one for the view).— Rod ^talk 08:42, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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- Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:11, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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