Talk:Impending Doom
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Deathcore label
[edit]See no reason to include this here. Band fits classic death metal/goregrind sound. True, they do have breakdowns but they are death breakdowns, much along the same lines as Dying Fetus.Lokri (talk) 18:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Agree with your edits, circafucix, and changed genre back to simply "death metal/grindcore"Lokri (talk) 01:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I don't agree with the edits at all "classic" brutal death/goregrind we are talking a matter of what 3 or 4 years I don't think that calling it classic would be correct. I think that the pig vocals give it a deathcore sound and there really isn't much of a metal influence there is no soloing in their songs. Bradman3001 (talk) 23:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
dude im sorry but they are christian deathcore and in now way are they goregrind, that's bands like last days of humanity and carnivorous vagina and brutal death is more along the lines of waking the cadaver and begging for incest, KEVINXCORE sry but i don't have an account lol
- a lot of traditional death metal bands like suffocation, dying fetus, abominable putridity, nile and mortification have breakdowns -joe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.68.27 (talk) 23:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Are you serious???? What fucking bastard changed to genre to brutal death metal?????? IT'S FUCKING DEATHCORE!!!! Does this sound ANYTHING like Nile, Sufocation, Origin, Decrepit Birth, etc.???
- I'm sorry but Wikipedia rules with references here and not merely a user's opinion. Try to find a source on them being deathcore but make sure it is reliable. Though if you do find one, that doesn't mean brutal death metal can be taken off. Also, please have some etiquette and calm down. FireCrystal (talk) 21:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Death metal did not grow in popularity two years ago. I don't know why you people, who have probably started listening to "heavy" music in 2007, insist on historically inaccurate ways of categorizing music. There has a been a death metal following since the eighties and not a single person who belongs to this following (people who grew up on Death, Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Nile, Suffocation), or death metal musicians themselves, would consider Impending Doom to be death metal. As to finding a source calling them deathcore: impossible. goons like you are sprouting like weeds saying that bands like this are Death Metal and bands like Daughters are grindcore. It's infuriating. It's not even a matter of whether I like Impending Doom or not, it's just that the only common qualities between them and death metal bands are the basic qualities that would make some metal (ie, distortion, downtuned guitars, lower ended vocals). When I saw this article and it said they were a christian death metal band, I thought i was in for some fun. I thought i was going to listen to a legitimate death metal band that made up of christians, something rarely heard of in the world of metal. I was excited. When i got to their myspace page, I was disappointed to here yet another bullshit, ripoff metal. If this article does not change to reflect that they are NOT death metal, expect for this page to be met with extreme resistance. I do not have an account on wiki, but I will make on if I need to, and I'll pull out all the big guns. I'm done sitting back and letting you stupid kids soil something precious to the metal community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.74.98.107 (talk) 16:14, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
- Have you heard Nailed.Dead.Risen.? Not much different from any Disgorge or Dying Fetus album. And while Impending Doom's most recent release, Serpent Servant, does contain quite a few riffs and breakdowns that sound like Earth Crisis at their heaviest, I still hear some brutal death metal and even a little early Carcass. There's more to 'em than "distortion, downtuned guitars, lower ended vocals". 68.220.78.117 (talk) 20:34, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm also sick of people who don't know the difference between DM and DC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.216.5 (talk) 15:29, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Nailed.Dead.Risen was barely deathcore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Impendingdoom240 (talk • contribs) 16:51, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- Whatever it was, it wasn't particularly good (not bad, either, but not good). I haven't developed enough of a sense for the theory behind each style to readily discern the difference in some cases.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 17:10, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
In my opinion, its one of their best albums to date. I don't know why you stated it as if it was a fact that its not good. That is your opinion.Impendingdoom240 (talk) 17:21, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Absolutely it is my opinion that the first album is rather average. I don't know why I felt the need to say that here, though, even though I don't regret doing so. Regarding genre, I think, just as sources indicate, that it was mixture of traditional death metal elements with deathcore elements, though to what extent I haven't yet developed an ear for enough to say.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 19:18, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Agreed Impendingdoom240 (talk) 16:30, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
christion?
[edit]how can they be christion if there death metal (Seth4000 (talk) 16:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)) Seth4000
- how cain anhtingg be anny patr of religoin not just christionannity? — Seriously man, you're just being stereotypical, and your grammar is fuck-terrible. The death metal genre has never had anything against any part of religion, it's just a music genre. — GunMetal Angel 23:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- They can. Ever hear about unblack metal? It explains a lot of the extreme metal side of Christian metal, though it is black metal but not essentially after you look into it. There might be more on this at Christian metal. They can be merged so don't think that they can't. Also, spell it right it's Christian not Christion and please cap it. FireCrystal (talk) 16:44, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Wiki policy on external links to social sites
[edit]MySpace is specifically mentioned in WP:LINKSTOAVOID for a reason: Generally, they are not acceptable. The main exception is when it is the only page available to represent a group officially. In this specific case, the MySpace page adds nothing encyclopedic to the article. The fact that someone has added a template to ease editing has nothing to do with whether MySpace links are generally acceptable. They need to be justified on a case-by-case basis. Piano non troppo (talk) 21:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- WP:LINKSTOAVOID has a footnote which specifically mentions that these links are permissible when they are official websites for the subject in question. Most bands have official MySpace pages, as it is probably the most effective means of communicating with fans (MySpace is, after all, not merely a social networking site). There is longstanding consensus that official MySpace pages are acceptable on band pages, which is why they appear on nearly every band page on Wikipedia and why the template was created. Furthermore, you didn't even do a scrap of homework for this, and if you had you'd find that your case is moot, and that you were wasting both of our times, because the band does not have an official homepage (the link you didn't remove is dead). Restoring, again. I needn't remind you of WP:3RR. Chubbles (talk) 00:43, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Deathcore
[edit]It is referenced so you may not delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.220.244.142 (talk) 00:27, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
- I have every right to because the source is unreliable. Please read WP:RS. FireCrystal (talk) 04:30, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Sources for death metal
[edit]If anyone wants to still complain over the band's lead genre on the page, here you go (keep in mind these are all 100% reliable sources); Allmusic calls them death metal, Blabbermouth calls them death metal, …and ABQJournal calls them death metal. So by Wikipedia standards, this band is death metal. • GunMetal Angel 02:42, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Grindcore tag?
[edit]I understand you have sourced information on this, but their first album Nailed. Dead. Risen. is NOT Grindcore. If you were going to be completely specific with the genre, it would just be Deathcore. The first album only exhibits one trait of Grindcore music and that is blast beats. The riffing is Deathcore. Just because there is some Grindcore influence lying within Deathcore does not make their first album Grindcore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annefrankstein (talk • contribs) 20:57, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
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