Talk:James Frey

Revisions

Current works versus Career

I believe we should eliminate current works and transfer it to the career section ... or move a major of the text to the career section, as only one entry is from even the past year.

Combined sections as noted previously. IamM1rv (talk) 13:29, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Use of quotes

The quotes of people giving their opinions as the basis for how great or horrible someone might be seems to suck up most of the wikipedia page. Example:

Part I)

...On July 28, 2007, at a literary convention in Texas, Nan Talese blasted Winfrey for being "mean and self-serving", having a "holier-than-thou" attitude as well as having "fiercely bad manners" during Winfrey's debate against Talese and Frey on January 26, 2006. Talese said she and Frey had been led to believe the show was going to be a panel discussion on "Truth in America". Just before air time, both Talese and Frey were told the topic of the show had been changed to "The James Frey Controversy". According to Talese, at the end of the show, Winfrey pulled Frey aside and said "I know it was rough, but it's just business". Talese stated that Winfrey needed to apologize for her behavior on the show. However, Joyce Carol Oates said, "This is an ethical issue which can be debated passionately and with convincing arguments on both sides. In the end, Oprah Winfrey had to defend her own ethical standards of truth on her television program, which was courageous of her". Talese was unapologetic about publishing Frey's A Million Little Pieces and commented that the book had great value for anyone who must deal with a loved one who is an addict.[19] ...

Why is this not summarized? IE:

On July 28, 2007 Nan A. Talese was recorded on C-Span at a conference disagreeing with Operah's treatment of James Frey on national TV. Joyce Carol Oates stated that Operah had called and apologized to James Frey, while still defending the Oprah Winfrey show. Joyce believes the book is helpful for families of addicts.[19]

Part II) Compare

...The New York Times's Janet Maslin, who had previously been one of Frey's detractors, gave the book a rave review.[28]...

I find this compact and helpful to show a change in attitude from people critiqued the author harshly before.

versus

...In contrast, David L. Ulin of the Los Angeles Times called the novel "One of the worst I've ever read".[30] The New Yorker review described the novel as "banal".[31] On August 2, 2008, the Guardian UK says "Irvine Welsh is entranced by James Frey's tale of redemption – 'the literary comeback of the decade'. James Frey is probably one of the finest and most important writers to have emerged in recent years."[32]...

We have both perspective represented here, but it's a needless battle of quotes. I am not even sure why the reviews are salient when you could easily find the book sales numbers here. Does anyone see a reason to keep these or redact it into ...

In late 2007, Frey signed a new three-book, seven-figure deal with Harper Collins to release his novel, Bright Shiny Morning, which was published May 13, 2008.[26][27] Bright Shiny Morning appeared on the New York Times bestseller list, and has received mixed reviews.

IamM1rv (talk) 16:00, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Followed up previous of quotes, summarizing them as a play by play of every nasty or nice thing said is not necessary & additionally it lacked POV:NP. IamM1rv (talk) 14:23, 24 March 2015 (UTC)