Talk:List of films featuring the United States Marine Corps

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Borderline films[edit]

Below is a list of borderline films that were removed from the page during my rewrite.. ones where I was not certain, or did not have an article with the information available to make the call on inclusion or deletion. -- saberwyn 11:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The B.R.A.T. Patrol - No article
The D.I. - No article
The Halls of Montezuma
Indio - No article (disambig page)
Independence Day (film) - Main character (played by Will Smith) a Marine pilot, but being a Marine pilot as opposed to being any other kind of military pilot does not strike me as influential to the overall plot.
Marines (movie) - No article
Taxi Driver - Main character a former Marine, implied to have been out of service for a while at the start of the film.. leaving for someone else to make the call
The Rock (film) - According to article, villains are rogue Marines.. someoe else's call
Tribes (film) - No article
The Marine - Leaving the call up to someone else

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Saberwyn (talk • contribs) 11:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Of this list I would say the only one that really belongs is The D.I. with Jack Webb. The only movie that is truly about the Marine Corps. The only other one that I can think of that is not here is a movie called The Boys in Company "C"--Looper5920 11:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but we should also add Halls of Montezuma (film) (I have eddited the name above so it links right) so I have added it to the article. I have also just added 7-8 WW2 era films about the Marine Corps. CsikosLo (talk) 14:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What about Beach Red? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.7.98.201 (talk) 03:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What about Without Reservations? CsikosLo (talk) 13:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tribes has its own article now and maybe should be included. --Gamgee (talk) 07:48, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting[edit]

I just went in and added some headers. I was having a hard time with the edits (adding films) because there was so much data to wade through. This should make it a little easier. Other than that, I didn't add, delete, or move anything. However, I think we should discuss moving stuff around. It would make more sense to put the "what's in/what's out" stuff right before the list of films, which would put the history first. Also, it will be some work, but the films should be in chronological or alphabetical order. What do y'all think?CsikosLo (talk) 14:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

expand scope[edit]

I think we might consider expanding the scope of this article to include television shows and books. However, to prevent the list from exploding into a cruft collection and getting deleted, we could declare that the media has to already by notable enough for its own article in order to be notable enough for the list. Any thoughts? bahamut0013 ♠♣ 17:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article is already more than a list with an interesting history section expanding the scope and a rename to something like the United States Marine Corps in fiction would provide a measure of insulation from those with deletionist tendencies (the word list in the title is a bit of a lightning rod for deletionists.)KTo288 (talk) 23:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What Should Be Included[edit]

Films on this list fall into one of two categories:

Films about the United States Marine Corps
Films where multiple major and supporting characters are depicted as being Marines, and whose status or history as Marines is important to the overall storyline.

What Should Not Be Included[edit]

Films that should not be included on this list include: *Those depicting Marine-like soldiers not of the USMC (example - the Colonial Marines of the Alien franchise)

Those depicting a single Marine character (example - Colonel Frank Fitts in American Beauty)
Depictions in media other than film (example - Baa Baa Black Sheep, a television series about a Marine aviation squadron)

Discuss on this page if you believe a borderline film should be included, or if you believe these disqualifying criteria should be changed—Preceding unsigned comment added by KTo288 (talk • contribs) 23:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. It would be great to see individual characters listed who are depicted as former Marines because most they typically are depected as guys who get the job done.

For example: Al Pacino as Lt. Vincent Hanna in Heat and Michael Corleon in Godfather, Mel Gibson as Porter in Payback, etc. (20seven (talk) 07:13, 23 January 2009 (UTC)).[reply]

See, the problem with that is that it strengthens the argument that the list is arbirtatry, with an overly wide scope. I think including films that aren't primarily concerned with Marines or the Marine Corps would weaken its encyclopedic value--turning it more into an entertainment listing than a reference, which would make it cannon fodder to the deletionists. As you can see in the previous deletion discussions, this list is already vulnerable to these kinds of arguments. For what its worth, though, I agree with you in principal, but it's a risk we can't afford. bahamut0013^words _deeds 07:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The film "Tell it to the Marines" needs to remove the reference to Camp Pendleton as it would not be established for another fourteen years. Mws72 (talk) 22:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion[edit]

A Marine Story

I am pretty sure that might be borderline but I put it out there... the framework seems very important as for being a marine and about the civil life of both main characters.--Hector Bosch (talk) 14:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First To Fight

Chad Everett, Marilyn Devin, Gene Hackman, Dean Jagger, Bobby Troup, James Best

The movie is loosely based on the Marine Corps career of Medal of Honor winner, GySgt Manilla John Basilone. Shanghai Jack Canal (Everett) is on a mythical island (similar to Guadacanal) and is the sole survivor of a Japanese Banzai charge. He's awarded the Medal of Honor, promoted to 2ndLt and sent back to the U. S. to be the Marine Representative on a Savings Bond drive. The drive is headed by Peggy Sanford (Devin). Canal and Navy Lt Overman (Bobby Troup) vie for Sanford's affections with Canal winning out and marrying her. He's sent to (presumably) Camp Pendleton, CA to train Marines to go to the Pacific to fight. While there he gets word from LtCol Baseman (Jaggar) that his buddy from the Pacific Ed Carnavan (Best) has been killed on Tarawa. Canal feels he should have been there and his guilt makes hims a mess. After losing a baby, Sanford releases Canal from his promise not to go back to combat. When he picks up his new unit, he's met with another Pacific hero Sgt Tweed (Hackman). They put their Marines though their training and head off the Pacific as a unit for combat. While getting his Medal of Honor, Canal had no ties. This time around however, he has a wife back home to think about and he freezes in action to the point where his men think he's a coward. With the help of Tweed, he comes out of it and they continue on to victory... ala The Red Badge of Courage. All in all a great movie. Why to I think so? I was in the movie as a young Marine Private First Class marching around in the background of the Camp Pendleton scenes with my Infantry Training Regiment company.

DougMH2294570 (talk) 12:57, 19 November 2018 (UTC) DougMH2294570 ^[1][reply]

References

^ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061667/

They forgot 1926 Tell It To The Marines with Lon Chaney[edit]

They forgot 1926 Tell It To The Marines with Lon Chaney 2603:7080:E843:D132:8DFB:74D6:EE8F:E3B0 (talk) 15:53, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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