Talk:Marlene Dietrich

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Dietrich's date of birth[edit]

In reading one of the sources provided for information concerning Dietrich's citizenship application, I noticed that the source also gave a different birthdate, indirectly, than the one provided in the entry. The Telegraph Herald of Dubuque, Iowa from March 10, 1939 indicates that, according to Dietrich, "she was born in Berlin 33 years ago". Is this merely an example of Dietrich lying about her age, a very common practice in Hollywood in those days, or is it simply an error in reporting? None of the other sources I have looked at on the web indicated anything other than the 1901 birth date, however, it is curious that a newspaper would seem to be indicating that Dietrich's date of birth was 1906. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:45, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

She was always faking her age. In 1951, when she was turning fifty, she complained that a magazine had quoted her age as forty-seven. She insisted she was only forty-four. ("I was very young when I married...") For years, a birthdate of 1904 was regarded as the official one, until someone eventually discovered the true date. (talk) 18:54, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Abortion & Jimmy Stewart[edit]

I've just read that she became pregnant to James Stewart during the filming of Destry Rides Again. She told him, but he just walked away, and she was left to arrange an abortion. Anyone know about this? -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 09:13, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Dietrich awarded the Medal of Freedom[edit]

The article and its source states she was awarded this medal in 1945. I thought the Medal of Freedom didn't come into existence until 1946.TL36 (talk) 08:57, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Box office popularity[edit]

Information I have found[edit]

I have done extensive research surrounding Marlene Dietrich. From what I have gathered, in 1932, Dietrich ranked 9th in box office popularity, not 19th as Wikipedia states. I have also found information supporting the fact that she ranked 30th in 1933; 57th in 1934; 73rd in 1935; 89th in 1936; and 126th in 1937. It goes without much surprise that she was labeled "Box Office Poison" (along with multiple other stars) in 1938. Very few of Dietrich's so-called "classic" films that she made in the 1930s were successful. The Blue Angel was an international success; her first American films, such as Morocco and Dishonored were successful, but Shanghai Express and Blonde Venus (both 1932) have been cited as her biggest commercial successes during the period. In discovering the success of The Song of Songs (1933), her first American movie not directed by Josef von Sternberg, some websites call it a failure, while others say it was a moderate or major success.

Most websites agree that The Scarlet Empress was her first major box office flop. It met with much controversy from the Hays Office as well. Her final collaboration with von Sternberg in 1935's The Devil Is a Woman was also a financial failure. Over time, Dietrich became frustrated at what she thought to be "poor quality" scripts she was being offered by Paramount. She soon went against her contract and expected what she considered "better parts" in independent films: she received $300,000 (not $250,000 as Wikipedia states) for The Garden of Allah (1936) for Selznick-International Pictures, and she was paid $450,000 for Knight Without Armour (1937) in Britain. Both films are notorious for being box office bombs. The failure of the films supposedly led to Paramount dropping her contract, and her being absent from acting for two years. It was rumored her career was finished, especially after she was labeled "Box Office Poison".

Her career revived in Destry Rides Again in 1939. She remained successful at the box office for the next three years, but after The Spoilers (1942) her popularity again waned. The majority of her films throughout the remainder of the 1940s were not major successes. By the 1950s, film offers became fewer and smaller, but she managed to appear in a string of successes, such as Rancho Notorious (1952), Around the World in 80 Days (1956), Witness for the Prosecution (1957), and Touch of Evil (1958). Her acclaimed performance in Judgment at Nuremberg (1961) was her last major movie role. Aside from the infrequent cameo appearance, she did not act thereafter.

What needs to be done[edit]

I believe that this Wikipedia page on Marlene Dietrich, one of the most-glamorous and longest stars in Hollywood, is much too short. Her film career in summed up in just a few paragraphs. The films she appeared in and the directors she worked with are mentioned in sequence, and the vast majority of her films are unmentioned. There should certainly be more reference to her movies, her instant box office popularity drop, and her nickname becoming "La Dietrich". Sections need to be expanded with more fulfilling information.

I there is no objection, I can add what information I have found on Miss Dietrich to make this article fuller and more informative. I would be happy to contribute, as I have done with the expansion of the Greta Garbo page.