Talk:Mufaddal Saifuddin

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Aali Qadr?[edit]

What does "Aali Qadr" mean, and why does it redirect here? QVVERTYVS (hm?) 12:30, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Aali Qadr is an honorofic title given to Mufaddal Saifuddin by his Grand father Syedna Taher Saifuddin.Rukn950 (talk) 12:06, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Meeting with dignitaries[edit]

@QVVERTYVS:kindly explain to me why you reverted my edits.and how can it be not the neutral tone as it was taken directly from the source.

My main contention is that such lengthy quotes from routine reporting are out of place in an encyclopedia. Apart from that, the wording used by the Times of India is not necessarily the wording that Wikipedia should use. Coming back to the actual content: the relevant bits, if any, are that Modi apparently recognizes Saifuddin as the leader of the DB. Apparently, because the source doesn't make this explicit (for all we know, Modi might be having similar meetings with Qutbuddin). If you can find a source that establishes that the Indian government recognizes Mufaddal Saifuddin as the Syedna, that would be something to cite. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 20:10, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
  • take his name correctly , other sources say that the issue is in court and syedna will be decided by courts , till then both will be considered as claimants also see WP:HONORIFICS syedna title is not allowed.Summichum (talk) 16:48, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Inaccurate survey[edit]

The online survey in the article was posted to a site for the group known as the Progressive Dawoodi Bohra. Due to the majority of Bohras not visiting that site (since it caters to the reformers who do not believe in the Da'i's authority, it's unlikely that very many orthodox Bohra from either faction frequent it), the survey's results cannot be taken as accurate and should not be proclaimed as such in the article. In addition, much of the recently added information comes from the Mumbai Mirror, a tabloid newspaper that may or may not be accurate. (talk) 00:07, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Please make the following paragraph NPOV[edit]

Mufaddal Saifuddin is supported only by “a tiny, tiny section” of the community a coterie that derives some benefit from being close to Mufaddal.[1] There are various media reports where Mufaddal Saifuddin has been referred as 53rd Dā'ī and titled as Syedna by a faction of Dawoodi Bohras who support Mufaddal Saifuddin[2] An online survey among the Dawoodi Bohra community revealed that only one fifth of the Dawoodi Bohras support the succession of Mufaddal saifuddin and a little less than one fifth support the half brother Khuzaima as the rightful successor [1]. A cover story on the Bohra survey revealed that most Bohras (46%) support Khuzaima over Mufaddal and many are in the community due to due to fear and force [2].The Dawoodi Bohra are a sub group within the Mustaali, Ismaili Shia branch of Islam.There are various reports that Mufaddal Saifuddin and his representatives are resorting to threats and social pressure to maintain their control over the community.[3] Qutbuddin has alleged that Saifuddin and his family “took advantage of a severe debilitating stroke that affected Burhanuddin following his 100th birthday in London” to declare Saifuddin the successor. In a statement issued in February, Qutbuddin also said his objections said had earned him “abuse, intimidation and even violence” from Saifuddin’s family.[1]

  1. ^ a b "leadership-dispute-divides-indias-dawoodi-bohra-sect". Retrieved 12 January 2015. 
  2. ^ "How is Syedna chosen? HC wants to know". The Indian Express. 30 April 2014. 
  3. ^ "Battle for Bohra spiritual head’s seat splits families - Mumbai Mirror". Retrieved 26 December 2014.