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Allmusic rating[edit]

the all music review is four and half stars, not five

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Requested move 23 January 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved as opposers raised the point that this is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Number 57 13:31, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]



– per WP:Naming conventions (music). There is no longer an absolute majority topic for "New Morning" - although the 1970 Dylan album was once, the New Morning (Misia album) 2014 and New Morning (Alpha Rev album) 2010 have changed that. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:38, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - Strongly oppose. Page views make it very clear that the current primary topic is overwhelmingly favored by readers by an incredible margin. Even with recentism on the side of the newer albums the case is incredibly clear here.--Yaksar (let's chat) 17:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This lesser album by one of the most important artists of the 20th-century is hardly primary topic, as defined by WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. My GSearch suggests that the Parisienne jazz club of the same name should be PT, if any. Viewing statistics are probably inherited from Bob Dylan and should be taken with a pinch of salt - again - as PT recommends. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment not to confuse with "Blue Morning" which is a song by Foreigner 76.120.164.90 (talk) 23:37, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Looking through the dab page, none of those other entries are notable enough that this wouldn't be the primary topic. -- Calidum 00:41, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Went to See the Gypsy[edit]

--TheScotch (talk) 17:50, 28 July 2020 (UTC)Re: “In the final lines of the song, Dylan makes mention of a ‘little Minnesota town,’ a rare reference to his own childhood in Hibbing”:[reply]

This is a singularly obtuse way of putting it. In the final line Bobby Zimmerman doesn’t merely “mention” the little Minnesota town (very likely, yes, an allusion to Hibbing); rather he specifically and particularly reveals that the entire incident that the entire lyric narrates is supposed to be taking place in this town. Is there some especial reason Elvis Presley would be “staying in a big hotel” in a little Minnesota town? I think not. What pop-culture figure with an exaggerated and cultish reputation would? Gee, that’s a toughie. No, I’ve always assumed that this song is about Bobby Zimmerman confronting his own “Bob Dylan” mythology. It’s certainly possible I’m wrong, but anyone who knows this song and hasn’t even considered the possibility has got to be remarkably dull-pated—-like, come to think of it, most professional rock critics and most amateur rock enthusiasts.TheScotch (talk) 17:50, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Backing Vocals[edit]

Regarding "Man in Me": Currently listed as Backing Vocals (with the exception of Maeretha Stewart on "If Dogs Run Free") are:

  • Hilda Harris
  • Albertin Robinson

Recently released footage of this session clearly shows (at about 40 seconds in) four women with headphones around the microphone. I think we are short by two names. Was Maeretha Stewart one of them? Oldsmobuick (talk) 00:12, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]