Talk:Opinion polling for the next Israeli legislative election

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May 5 poll[edit]

@Carmon456, you added some results that I can't find in the reference. Where did you get this info? Do you have another reference for that?

New polls[edit]

Just going to drop here whenever there's new polls if I am don't have the time to add them myself:

Here's one: https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-783246 SecretName101 (talk) 00:37, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is one https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-783819 SecretName101 (talk) 05:32, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done: I added the poll with Brothers in Arms, which is the only one with complete results. The other scenarios don't even give the results of the major parties, so I skipped them. ערן117 (talk) 11:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Missing scenario polls:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/386172
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-790754 SecretName101 (talk) 21:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the Jerusalem Post poll is already included as the second poll in the "Other scenarios and scenario combinations" subsection. David O. Johnson (talk) 21:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@David O. Johnson The article describes two scenarios that were polled, not just one.
"The poll also examined a more conservative scenario, whereby the current parties run again without changes, save for the Labor party being led by Golan instead of current chairwoman Merav Michaeli...." This scenario is missing. SecretName101 (talk) 22:24, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weighting Channel 14 polls[edit]

Channel 14 is known to have a strong right wing slant, and to support the Netanyahu bloc. The polls that they have commissioned are really out of alignment with the other polls, from Maariv, channel 12 & channel 13. I think that its not an accurate reflection of the general political view of the country. In the graph, I'm wondering if we can weigh the channel 14 polls less intensely in the graph? TimeEngineer (talk) 13:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the Channel 14 polls are very biased, though, I think that eventually, it will smooth out, and the representation will end up being fairly accurate. Also, since the polls are so widely different, I think that most people will be able to notice that something's up, and the channel 14 Wikipedia page warns of the Netanyahu bias. I think if it leads to confusion among Wikipedia readers though, this will be needed. Sutapurachina (talk) 06:27, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The right wing would argue that the other channels are biased to the left (for example Raviv Drucker from Channel 13). We can mention the bias in the article, but we shouldn't give any preference to one side over the other. ערן117 (talk) 04:26, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think a good solution could be adding a graph per news-channel, or at least two extra views of the graph for "only channel 14", and "the rest of the pools without 14". on one hand it might complicate the visualization but on the other hand it could be a more precise method of visualizing the pool-graph without neglecting any news source regardless of biases that they might have, also it might make the scale of the biases a bit more clear. Botser.reshef.wiki (talk) 13:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think we're allowed to single ch14 out since that'd be considered editorializing, unless we can somehow establish through reliable sources that 14's polls are uniquely inaccurate. Also i think itd be quite a burden to introduce individual graphs for channels + itd probably massively clutter the page. Totalstgamer (talk) 21:11, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 February 2024[edit]

A new poll has been released https://www.maariv.co.il/news/politics/Article-1078520 Sutapurachina (talk) 06:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 14:06, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done ערן117 (talk) 04:44, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 March 2024[edit]

A new poll by channel 14 has been released https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-dv9FmcaUY Sutapurachina (talk) 00:49, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shaws username . talk . 01:49, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done ערן117 (talk) 04:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2024[edit]

Channel 13 has released a new poll. This should be added to the poll list [1] Sutapurachina (talk) 03:07, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ערן117 (talk) 05:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

Scenario polls[edit]

might be helpful if we merge the different scenario tables into one because they often have similar scenarios (New right-wing liberal parties led by Bennett, Cohen, Galant Hendel or Sa'ar and Labor-Meretz merger led by Golan). "Protest party", leadership polls and polls with just Labor-Meretz Braganza (talk) 08:30, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand how you want to merge tables that have different headers. We can merge the 2 Meretz-Labour tables with and without Yair Golan because they have the same header. ערן117 (talk) 03:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The columns don't line up :([edit]

Please could the contents of the small table showing current seats be moved into the main table, so that the columns line up. Thanks! Misha Wolf (talk) 11:33, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Misha Wolf: its because there are no polls yet which stretch it to the correct length Braganza (talk) 12:13, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National Right or New Hope[edit]

Why are we calling it National Right? Isn’t the common name New Hope? SecretName101 (talk) 18:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The full name loosely translates into "New Hope - The National Right". When not using the full name, and at least untill any major change happens in the party's branding and public acceptance of the new name, I think it's best if we sticked with "New Hope" for short. Carmon456 (talk) 19:18, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Knesset website used to call it "New Hope-National Right" (IIRC), though the current phrasing is "New Hope - The United Right" [1]. The Times of Israel website also calls it that. [2]. David O. Johnson (talk) 19:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Based on the logo, how its being referred to by sources (https://www.mako.co.il/news-politics/2024_q1/Article-533a66bc5b67e81026.htm?sCh=31750a2610f26110&pId=173113802_565301 for example) and the official name of the caucus, "National Right" is effectively the party's name. The "New Hope" part is kind of like "National Liberal Movement" in Likud's full name. Totalstgamer (talk) 20:43, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Plenty of sources are going my “ תִּקְוָוה חֲדָשָׁה” (New Hope)
https://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politi/2024-03-25/ty-article/.premium/0000018e-709b-ddf4-a3de-78bbe6090000
https://www.inn.co.il/news/633098
which mind you is the name both English AND Hebrew Wikipedia use in the articles for the party https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%AA%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%95%D7%94_%D7%97%D7%93%D7%A9%D7%94 SecretName101 (talk) 08:15, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They seem to be attempting a rebrand—if you go to newhope.org.il you get a banner which says HAYAMIN HAMAMLAKHTI. Interestingly I remember when they first announced the name they said they were going to change it the next day, after realizing that it was a Star Wars thing. GordonGlottal (talk) 22:53, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The second source you cited refers to it as New Hope - The National Right, on top of the fact that the party now refers to itself as such and that is the official name of the caucus. I personally think references to new hope are holdovers and we should use the National Right as the shortened name. Totalstgamer (talk) 17:54, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should we include polls on preferences about when to hold election[edit]

Many polls have asked this question since the start of the war.

It'd be a lot of work to go back and compile a table of this, but I think if someone here is willing to do the work, that'd be a great addition here.

Any opposition to adding the results of such polling questions? SecretName101 (talk) 22:11, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]