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I added the Kurgan's death date according to the first highlander movie. It is Nov 1,1985 because on the night before the final battle while the Kurgan was in the church talkin to Connor he said "happy halloween ladies!" to some nuns in the church. Dick Grayson (talk) 17:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't recall the Kurgan's age being mentioned in the movie (unless it's in the Director's Cut, which I've seen but it's been a while), only in the novelization - which I thought was not considered canon. Unless it's from the episode The Watchers, from Dawson's computer. 64.231.12.30 19:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Removed Statements[edit]

I have removed a number of statements from the article, as they are uncited and quite likely either non-canonical or OR sources. Before any of the following can be returned to the article, it needs to be cited with reliable, verifiable sources, and Imdb or fanfic is not considered canon.

(from History)

He was born in eastern Russia on the border of the Caspian Sea in 1005 BC.

His tribe, the Kurgans, were infamous for their cruelty^{[citation needed]}, and were known to "toss children into pits full of dogs, and watch them fight for the meat" for amusement^{[citation needed]}. His first death occurred in 970 BC, when his drunken father crushed his head with a rock^{[citation needed]}. Upon returning to life, the Kurgan proceeded to force his father to swallow a searing hot stone, killing him^{[citation needed]}. He then went off to join a group of bandits that raided caravans^{[citation needed]}. He eventually encountered another Immortal, "The Bedouin," who taught him about what he was, and became the only person who could be labeled as his friend^{[citation needed]}. However, it is rumored he murdered his teacher shortly after his training was completed. From there, he traveled the world, killing both mortals and Immortals in his quest to obtain The Prize. He is known to have ridden with Attila the Hun, and participated in the Sack of Rome. Egyptian Immortal Tak Ne (prior to assuming his later "Ramirez" identity) and the Kurgan battled one another a number of times throughout early history, including encounters in Babylonia, Greece, and ancient China. He quickly gained the title of strongest of all the Immortals, and was feared by most, if not all, of them.

Years later, the Kurgan heard of a powerful pre-Immortal named Connor MacLeod.

(including the film`s director, Russell Mulcahy) -one of the people run over by Kurgen'

Unlike most immortals, The Kurgan gleefully adopts the youth culture of the era he occupies, as opposed to adopting dignified and respectable occupations (like Connor and Ramirez), living the life of a wandering nomad with no stable financial income. Also, the Kurgan seems to grow less emotionally mature as the ages roll on; falling from a respected warlord to little more than a mere hooligan by his death in 1985.'

Disaster also tends to follow the Kurgan, as he has a distressing tendency of sadistic cruelty towards helpless mortals for the sake of cheap amusement (which, ironically enough, generates much of the delightfully hilarious black-humor of the first film).

(The Kurgan in the Game)

1 - The Bedouin (Rumored), 10th century BC (Highlander novel)

2 - Ivan Trotski¹, 1472 (The Watchers)

3 - The Mongol, c.1535 (Highlander novel)

4 - Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez, 1541 (Highlander)

5 - Flavio Parocchi¹, 1664 (The Watchers)

6 - Osta Vazilek², 1985 (Highlander)

7 - Yung Dol Kim³, 1985 (Highlander)

8 - Sunda Kastagir, 1985 (Highlander)

¹Appeared in the Kurgan's Watcher database in that episode.

²Only mentioned.

³Deleted scene.

- Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 19:09, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kurgan, or The Kurgan?[edit]

Throughout the section "Highlander: Way of the Sword", he is refered to as "Kurgan" (as if it was his name) rather than "the Kurgan" (as in the rest of the article). Should all instances of "Kurgan" be changed to "the Kurgan", or is there a reason for treating it as a normal name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wardog (talk • contribs) 17:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Kurgan as metaphor of Highlander, the movie[edit]

While the burgeoning spinoffs and an age that makes it a classic, convert "Highlander" into something likely less hazardous, the initial Highlander movie was a toxic brew best characterized by painting it as "the Kurgan mischievously clothed in the fake story of his own demise". This deserves noting somewhere.178.238.167.156 (talk) 13:05, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're kidding, right? The first Highlander movie is pretty much the only thing worthwhile that ever happened in the 'Highlander' universe.69.196.186.247 (talk) 00:47, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Er...apart from the TV series, of course. --98.212.253.18 (talk) 21:55, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 May 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. (non-admin closure) Kharkiv07 (T) 18:02, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kurgan (Highlander) → The Kurgan (Highlander) – Either that or simply The Kurgan, lit. the burial mound
That black knight was the Kurgan.
It's because of him that I sought you out.
Who is the Kurgan?
Where does he come from?
The Kurgans were an ancient people...
from the steppes of Russia.
For amusement, they tossed children...
into pits with hungry dogs to fight for meat.
The Kurgan.
He is the strongest of the immortals.
He is the perfect warrior.
If he wins the prize...
mortal man would suffer an eternity of darkness.
How do you fight such a savage?
Hmm. With heart, faith, and steel.
In the end, there can be only one.
ooo, scary. (but the Kurgans were not an ancient people)
Get out!
Aaah!
Kurgan!
Ramirez!
Raah!
second bit of scintillating dialogue.
Nice to see you, Kurgan.
Who cuts your hair?
I am in disguise.
This way no one will recognize me.
I do.

That's the third ref. but he was only referred to in the third person as "the Kurgan". Greg Kaye 20:28, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Usually I don't support the use of the definite article in article titles, but in some cases such as these not using it looks daft. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:39, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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