Template:Did you know nominations/Nrisingha Prasad Bhaduri
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The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 16:50, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Nrisingha Prasad Bhaduri[edit]
- ... that Nrisingha Prasad Bhaduri is an Indologist whose upcoming encyclopedia on Indian epics like Ramayana and Mahabharata is expected to challenge many traditional concepts?
Created/expanded by Titodutta (talk), WhisperToMe (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
All checks out, though prose has peacocky touches, as do the sources. For a biography, concentrates rather a lot on his ongoing project. Johnbod (talk) 13:27, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm afraid the prose is too WP:PEACOCK for promotion to the main page—just because the sources indulge in it doesn't mean the article should—and there are some sentence structure issues as well. The hook's "is expected to challenge many traditional concepts" feels a bit like WP:CRYSTAL, and article sentences like "The encyclopedia is being expected to change many traditional concepts." need work. As the review notes, the article is severely unbalanced by talking more about the encyclopedia than about Bhaduri's overall literary career, and the amount of text being blockquoted seems excessive. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:56, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- The Times of India article discussed in details what kind of challenges it is going to throw, we can add some content from there and delete 1 quote if necessary. --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:40, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- My point on that particular sentence was meant to indicate that it is not a good English sentence, and that work needs to be done on the prose throughout the article. I was not asking for more on the encyclopedia: given the unbalance that already exists, that would only make matters more lopsided. Deleting one of the quotes would be helpful: I'd retain maybe half the Bhaduri blockquote and delete the Dutta, perhaps paraphrasing some of the latter (this isn't his article) with maybe a quoted sentence or partial sentence inline. I think it's incumbent upon you to expand on Bhaduri's existing (non-encyclopedic) writing in the opening sentences of the Literary career section. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:50, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- I have made some changes. --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:23, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
- My point on that particular sentence was meant to indicate that it is not a good English sentence, and that work needs to be done on the prose throughout the article. I was not asking for more on the encyclopedia: given the unbalance that already exists, that would only make matters more lopsided. Deleting one of the quotes would be helpful: I'd retain maybe half the Bhaduri blockquote and delete the Dutta, perhaps paraphrasing some of the latter (this isn't his article) with maybe a quoted sentence or partial sentence inline. I think it's incumbent upon you to expand on Bhaduri's existing (non-encyclopedic) writing in the opening sentences of the Literary career section. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:50, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- The Times of India article discussed in details what kind of challenges it is going to throw, we can add some content from there and delete 1 quote if necessary. --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:40, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- Tito, while I appreciate the removal of the one blockquote and the new sentence on Bhaduri's other writing, I did say that "work needs to be done on the prose throughout the article". This is still true, and the nomination cannot proceed without it. Please try to find someone who can copyedit for you soon. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:44, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- I can not find any more online source which talks about his literary career! I am searching in local library now! --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Done! Some information added in literary career section, copyedit done, again copyediting done by User:WhisperToMe. --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:58, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
New review needed; please be sure to recheck prose. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 14:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- There is an unsourced paragraph in the encyclopedia section. The book titles should be italicized. Otherwise, a couple of minor grammatical issues but not enough to prevent promotion at this point. Gatoclass (talk) 06:46, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Dome! --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:01, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- The article looks fine now, but the hook is a little iffy. I suggest you replace the phrase "is expected to challenge many traditional concepts" with "is said to challenge the existing scholarship" or some such. Alternatively, you might try a hook emphasizing that it is the most comprehensive encyclopedia of its type yet (assuming that can be sourced). Gatoclass (talk) 14:37, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I think I'll just add an alt hook myself:
- ALT1: ... that a new encyclopedia by Nrisingha Prasad Bhaduri is said to challenge long-held views on epics such as the Ramayana and Mahabharata? Gatoclass (talk) 14:46, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- ALT1 looks good! --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:54, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Suggesting ALT1a, since the encyclopedia is not yet completed and won't be for at least two years according to the latest estimate, making ""a new encyclopedia" inaccurate:
- ALT1a: ... that an upcoming encyclopedia by Nrisingha Prasad Bhaduri is said to challenge long-held views on epics such as the Ramayana and Mahabharata?
- If the preference is for "a forthcoming" rather than "an upcoming", that would also work. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:26, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Need an independent review of ALT1 and ALT1a. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:26, 5 February 2013 (UTC)