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i think that all the Amendments are very important i never knew there was 27 of them. the president should make more laws for others to follow even though people now dont follow any rules or laws we make but the president needs to make more n powerful laws

The president doesn't make laws. Congress does. Why is this on a template talk page? --Gustavo Chapman 3rd of Normandy 20:08, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

• Looks like some random person felt like using the talk page for a personal (and strange) thought, nothing more. --CapitalR 23:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I add to the random and strange thought then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.122.237.6 (talk) 21:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Overlap, lack of Info

This "infobox" has a lot of overlap with Template:US Constitution. While there is some utility to having all the sections of the constitution accessable on the side: homiegee

1. Do we need the overlap?
2. Specific information, especially on the amendments would be very useful.

For instance, I had to look through the page to find the ratification date of the 20th Amendment. I think that, along with the date it was proposed by Congress, should be in the infobox for all amendments. And of course, the original Constitution also has such dates.—Tox 21:36, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

• I'll agree with adding the dates of proposal and ratification. Those were actually in the original template when I created it, but i removed them because I didn't have enough time to go fill in all the information in each amendment. You can re-add the fields if you like, as I think they make the infobox more useful. --CapitalR 01:50, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I agree that this infobox is 100% overlap of the Template:US Constitution. A few thoughts: Template:US Constitution was created several years ago and has served quite nicely, this infobox is only a few months old; Template:US Constitution is much more informative, this infobox is limited; Template:US Constitution is more of a "macro" navbox and is well suited for the bottom of the page, this infobox is more of a "micro" navbox. With that being said, this topic truly demands quality navigation and this infobox does look quite sharp. Therefore, I would propose removing the "micro" aspects of the Constitution from Template:US Constitution (basically remove everything above the horizontal line) and keep this infobox minus the wikisource links which should be moved to Template:US Constitution. This infobox would then serve as the navigation for the elements of the Const. while Template:US Constitution will serve as the navigation for the entire series on the Const. Comments?--Old Hoss 08:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I could agree with that proposal above. I created the sidebar infobox a few months ago after finding it very difficult to quickly navigate the Constitution articles, and after getting complaints from others that it was too difficult to find the complete text. As long as we keep it easy to do that, I'm all for any changes that others want to make. --CapitalR 16:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I went ahead and was bold and made the above changes, we'll see how it does.--Old Hoss 03:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

FYI, this isn't an infobox, but a Navigational template. Regards, Severo^TC 00:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit request from Anthraxian, 16 April 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Please modify this sentence:

The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment prohibits the establishment of a national religion by the Congress or the preference of one religion over another, non-religion over religion, or religion over non-religion.

to:

The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment prohibits the establishment of a national religion by the Congress. "Religion" in this case is narrowly defined as the preference of one sect of religion over another.

Why:

The first amendment does not address religion over non-religion. Furthermore,its historical meaning is that the Congress shall not establish a particular sect of Christianity over another. This was a direct effect of the English government breaking from the Catholic church and establishing the Church of England as the religion of the land - which led to religious oppression. It does not address the "macro" issue of the belief in God or a creator. In fact the founding documents, including the Declaration of Independence specifically note a creator that we get our rights from.

Please note, this is NOT coming from a religious point of view. I am a constitutional scholar. I am not out to start or get involved in a religious debate!

Anthraxian (talk) 16:10, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Your own work as a constitutional scholar is not sufficient for Wikipedia's policy of verifiability; see also "no original research". --Darkwind (talk) 17:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

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Adding the Proposed but Unratified Amendments to the Category

I'm considering adding the proposed but unratified amendments to the category box in the following format:

n. (Name)

Where n would be the number of the amendment the proposed article would have been if it had passed at the time it was proposed Thus:

• I. Congressional Apportionment Amendment
• XIII. Titles of Nobility Amendment
• XIII. Corwin Amendment
• XX. Child Labor Amendment

and so on.Graham1973 (talk) 23:49, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

state vs. State

To be consistent with United States Code Title 48, Judiciary, and the legal distinction between United States and United States of America, the spelling "state" refers to one of the 50 associated compact states of the United States of America, and "State" refers to the territories and possessions of the Corporation in the District of Columbia. This distinction has been all but forgotten since the bankruptcy of United States in 1933 when the states started participating in the issuance of commercial paper and the "people" entered into an association with limited liability to discharge their debts (pass their debts on) in exchange for federal benefits, principally social security.

michael@alexander-web.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.142.30.100 (talk) 04:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

XVIII Amendment

Could someone put the XVIII Amendment in italics since it has been repealed, this is standard MOS for such things. Thanks, Voomie (talk) 01:24, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Y Done --Cybercobra (talk) 03:03, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

There needs to be some clearer indication of that, it may be "standard" for lawyers, but it looked like a typo to me. I checked here before "correcting" it though. --Mirokado (talk) 13:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)