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Bollfooot (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) – Keeps on adding incorrect information on this article when the official website says otherwise. 24.212.195.135 (talk) 00:23, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

As I assume that you know about the subject of football, I am sure you know uefa.com is the official website of the aforementioned competition and hence should be the primary source. Bollfooot provided sources that differs from the primary source but as UEFA.com is the official website, when there is a discreprancy, the official source should be the one taking precedence. Bollfooot needs to learn on the subject of reliable sources. Also, Nmk829 was the first person who added the correct information based on the official website. Bollfooot's first edit summary on 17:59, 28 June 2013 to him was "are you idiot or what?" That is highly inapproprate. As you now know, the article is protected, but I am sure you would agree it would need to be reverted to the version which agrees with UEFA.com. 24.212.195.135 (talk) 01:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

This has been actioned by another admin. Discussion is underway, so I'll close this here for now. GedUK  11:50, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

asking for protection

Hi

Can you please make this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_and_Development_Party_(Turkey) protected at least partially because of persistent vandalism, one user even deleted the whole page and then added insults in Turkish.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liesbeth98 (talk • contribs) 13:41, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Declined That extreme vandalism was a while ago. Most of the recent stuff is a content dispute around the ideology for the infobox. You've removed sourced statements, and the ideology section is entirely the party's position, neither of which really fit the ethos of reliable sources as you're sticking entirely to the party's view of itself, not wihat external people's views of it are. GedUK  11:56, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 03 July 2013

KINDLY REVIEW THE PAGE "PUSA CALL"

Vichitr 12:45, 5 July 2013 (UTC)V2VG2G

Dear Ged UK, With due respect, I understand that you have nothing to do directly with this page Pusa Call, but still I find you of some help. Sir, I am a notable alumni of IHM Pusa with an association of more than 7 years. With no wrong intentions, I created the said page, which has been deleted by another admin Tokyogirl79 // Shovon76 citing a blur reason that the page seems hoax and a case of vandalism.

Sir, Pusa Call is a poetry stanza highly famous amongst any one in the Hotel community in India and abroad, associated with IHM Pusa, one of the top Catering colleges in India. Its impact is so huge that it works as an identification amongst the fellow IHMites if they do not recognise each other by face or name.

No doubt, It is something unofficial and stereotyped only amongst the students that too verbally, but still it has a long legacy of more than 30 years(Which is something can not be ignored). I have no Official digital proof to prove my point, as already said, Pusa call is an unofficial document.

If you consider even an iota of truth in my case. Kindly help and undo the deletion of the page 'PUSA CALL'.


regards Vaibhav Garg Alumni IHM Pusa

Hi there. The original article, Pusa Call was deleted following a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pusa Call, because it was not considered notable by Wikipedia's standards. THe second version, Pusa call (note the small 'c') was speedily deleted because it was the same as the previous version. The original version was deleted by Lear's Fool (talk · contribs) following the discussion.
As Tokyogirl79 has replied on her talk page, the issue is that Wikipedia needs reliable sources in order to demonstrate notability; this is the only standard we use. If it's 'unofficial and sterotyped' it's unlikely to be notable, but the only thing that determines notability is sources. If you can find sources that discuss it, then that would be different.
I can't override another admin, especially follwing a deletion discussion. You can request that the original deletion (of Pusa Call is reviewed at deletion review, but I warn you that it's unlikely to succeed because as far as I can see, both deletions were sound. Regards, GedUK  11:56, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

These two are same Iam sure - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MXBOX and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mutoor1. Also i guess operating from another account- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MenonSnr.Lionbase1234 (talk) 13:48, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

HI there. You need to open a case at sockpuppet investigations, as they have tools to check IP addresses (called Checkuser), that I don't have. Thanks. GedUK  11:57, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter

Hey Ged UK! We've just deployed some fixes to the VisualEditor. These include:

  • "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you're looking at (bug 49943)
  • "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you edited last time if this is your second edit (bug 50441)
  • VE edit section links will load the latest, not original, version in diff view preview (bug 50925)
  • <big><big>Foo</big></big> and similar repeated tags will not get corrupted any more (bug 49755)

In the meantime, testing is proceeding well, and hopefully we can get some more fixes out over the next couple of days. If you're interested in helping out, we have a set of open tasks we'd really appreciate your assistance with :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:09, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Life imprisonment in England and Wales

8 days ago you protected Life imprisonment in England and Wales for 7 days. Now that this has expired it is being vandalised again. Please could you protect it again? Richard75 (talk) 11:29, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of 3 weeks, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Protection almost always starts short and gets longer; we always want to hope they'll go away during each protection. GedUK  11:35, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter

Hey Ged UK

We just deployed another VisualEditor release; bugs fixed include:

  • Firefox 13/14 has been temporarily blacklisted, to avoid the insertion of broken links [[./that look like this]] (50720)
  • Changing a reference in a template should no longer produce the bright red "you don't have a references block!" error (bugzilla:50423)
  • Notices are now shown if you're editing a protected or semi-protected page (bugzilla:50415)
  • The template inspector will no longer invite you to insert parameters that are already being used (50715)
  • Same as above, but with aliases (50717)
  • Parameter names in the template dialogue now word-wrap (50800)
  • The link inspector will not show in the top left if you hit the return key while opening it (49941)
  • Hitting return twice in the link editor will no longer introduce a new line that overwrites the link (51075)
  • Oddly-named categories no longer cause corruption (50702)
  • The toolbar no longer occasionally covers the cursor (48787)
  • Changing the formatting of text no longer occasionally scrolls you upwards (50792)

Not specific bugs, but other things; cacheing is now improved, so people should stop seeing temporary breaking when the VisualEditor updates, and RTL support has received some patches. I hope this newsletter is helpful to people; I'll send out another one with the next deployment :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:19, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 July 2013

VE newsletter

Hey Ged UK! Another set of patches :). Today we have:

  • Required template parameters are now automatically added to new templates (50747)
  • Templates with piped links now display correctly when you alter them (50801)
  • If your edit token expires, you're now informed of it (50424).
    You still won't be able to save - that's due to be fixed on Monday :).

More on Monday, I suspect. Hope you have a good weekend :). I should also have some news about the IP launch pretty soon. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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VE newsletter

Hey Ged UK; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:

  • If you insert wikitext such as links or section headers, you get a notice in the top right corner (over the save button). It doesn't go away until click, though once dismissed you don't get another one that edit. (49820)
  • If your edit token expires, VE fetches a new one for you so you can save. (50424)
  • If the page is empty of content but does have something non-content (like a category or an HTML comment), VE no longer crashes on load - (50289)
  • sub tags are no longer removed ((49873)
  • If you type at the end of links, they now extend
  • Templates now only take a single click to insert
  • Clear annotations clears links (50461)
  • The link inspector stays open when you click to another item (50895)
  • Typing after multi-byte characters no longer creats pawn icons (51140)
  • Resizing thumbnails that have a default size set now works (50645)
  • References made by tag:ref now display properly (bugzilla:50978)
  • The VE is integrated with the spam blacklist (50826)
  • Feedbacl link goes to the right language (bugzilla:47730)

There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:29, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 July 2013

Why

Why did you delete a page> Social Media Buz?

We are working with Students in colleges and universities and this is not acceptable

Can you advise me please of your reasons?

We are advisers to Local Councils, Law Societies, Colleges and Universities?

Healthy regards

Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.168.91.141 (talk) 11:35, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

The article was deleted because there was no indication that it was notable to Wikipedia standards. This essentially means that you need to supply independent third party sources that talk about the company in-depth. The article as it was didn't explain why it's important. Have a read of Wikipedia:FIRST#Gathering_references for some more ideas. GedUK  11:52, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter

Hey Ged UK. The newest updates:

  • Links now don't extend over space/punctuation/workbreaks when you type (bugzilla:51463)
  • Users with the "minoredit" preference set get working functionality (bugzilla:51515)
  • You can tab to buttons in dialogs, including the save dialog (bugzilla:50047)
  • We now show the <newarticletext> (or <newarticletextanon>) message as an edit notice (bugzilla:51459)
  • You can scroll dialog panels like in transclusions' templates' parameter listings (bugzilla:51739)
  • Templates that only create meta-data and no display content at all (like Template:Use dmy dates) now can't be deleted accidentally or deliberately, but still don't show up (bugzilla:51322)
  • FlaggedRevisions integration (bugzilla:49699)
  • Edit summary will get the section title pre-added if you launched from a section edit link (bugzilla:50872)

Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:03, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 July 2013

User:Mrdpanesar/Recarta IT Limited

" It's a userspace draft. Give it some time" Really?

Our growth has been attributed to the partnership with ISV’s in helping to deliver IBM Infrastructure or hosting to their clients.

No amount of time will fix this problem. This page needs to be deleted, and the user shown the door for abusing Wikipedia for advertising. Oh, and it's also a copyvio from [1]. MER-C 12:35, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, really. Of course time could fix the problem. You tagged it two minutes after it was created. The copyvio is a different issue, and I'll look at that now. That's what yuo should have tagged it with, it's always a stronger criterion. GedUK  12:38, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
That's a very naive way of looking at things -- creating a first person spam page or copying a company's about us page does not constitute a good faith attempt at making an encyclopedia article. Spam is spam, regardless of the title or age of a page. In fact, it is in Wikipedia's interest that spam is deleted ASAP -- userspace is indexed, and it will find it's way into Google. You'll find that either (1) the page will be abandoned and/or (2) someone else deletes it. Yes, I didn't bother to check for copyvio, but only deleting it as copyvio raises the possibility of OTRS permissions being bothered about content that is blatantly unsuitable for Wikipedia. MER-C 12:57, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
It's not naive, it's WP:AGF. Two minutes is far too fast. GedUK  13:04, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
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What?

Despite significant opposition and a request for me to do a rewrite for the Me1 vs Me2 Snooker with Richard Herring page it still got deleted. What a selfish thing to do. Wiggs (talk) 16:22, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

You can ask the deleting admin to restore it to your userpage for you to work on. GedUK  21:19, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, its not yet perfect - but it is getting much better. Wiggs (talk) 23:33, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
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