User talk:Keith D

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edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for User:Keith D:
  • De-caps for other bus station articles
  • River Humber -> Humber Estuary
  • Hull schools list - add independents, work out what to do with location
  • Yorkshire sort out & remove modern references
  • Yorkshire sub-articles need references/changes made to Yorkshire transferring down
  • KC Stadium - check out stand names & references when stadium web site is back on air
  • Commons East Riding of Yorkshire image sorting - done Civil parishes Ayrmin to Bubwith on third pass (Need to add dated cats to pre Boynton parishes)
  • Keep an eye on bug


Hello, Keith D, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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User page query[edit]

Hi Keith. Do you think this is OK? I wasn't sure and I'm not an admin and didn't want to get up the guy's nose unnecessarily. It's not the most offensive thing I've ever seen here (!) but I did worry a little about its wisdom. But maybe it's fine. Would you mind having a look please? Thanks! Best wishes DBaK (talk) 21:48, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi, had a look and it could be a bit provocative to other users. May be drop them a note on talk page to see if they would mind changing it to less offensive wording. Keith D (talk) 22:05, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I have had a little try. Watch this space ... best wishes DBaK (talk) 22:22, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Looks like someone thinks it is a sock account and has blocked it. Keith D (talk) 22:27, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Yup - I've been overtaken by events it would seem. Ho hum. Thanks anyway for your help. DBaK (talk) 22:29, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-22[edit]

08:29, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment[edit]

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)


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DBaK (talk) 10:22, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-23[edit]

08:08, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - June 2014[edit]

Delivered June 2014 by MediaWiki message delivery.
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01:09, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Bramhope Tunnel[edit]

Hi Keith. Please could you kindly look at what is happening to the above article, and its talk page. Today and yesterday there has occurred a large number of edits made by a single editor to this Good Article, in which a few valid copyedits were made, many arbitrary and unnecessary changes to language were made, some erroneous changes to content/meaning were made, and some updates which may have been valid but not discussed in advance on the talk page. In the middle of this massive edit, your own valid copyedit, removing the word "was" was reverted for no good reason by the same editor. I have reverted all of this accumulated two-day edit, and put a message on the talk page asking for discussion before each detail is changed. However this editor may respond in a problematic manner, as has happened previously regarding edits of Wetherby Town Hall, so this is why I am asking you whether you could please kindly monitor the situation and intervene if/when you see fit. Thank you. --Storye book (talk) 11:27, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-24[edit]

07:39, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Yorkshire Newsletter[edit]

Hello mate, I'm aware that you're behind the Wikiproject Yorkshire Newsletter, which I receive monthly for being a member of Wikiproject Yorkshire. I've had an idea, I was wondering if it would be possible in future to advertise the Leeds Wikimedia meetups? It is going to be our third meet-up in Leeds (the only current one in Yorkshire) and we'd like to get a bigger turn out of Yorkshire wikipedians. I think the Wikiproject Yorkshire Newsletter would be a great opportunity to notify Yorkshire wikipedians of the Leeds Wikimedia meetups. I think many Yorkshire wikipedians are unaware of the meetups in Leeds and this is a great opportunity for Yorkshire Wikipedians to meetup and discuss all things Wikipedia and Yorkshire. It'd also be an opportunity to expand Wikiproject Yorkshire. The next meetup is this Saturday. Kind regards IJA (talk) 17:03, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, many thanks for the idea, will not be possible for the one this weekend but if I know about it the month before it happens then I could publicise it in the monthly newsletter. You can write a paragraph that I can insert into the newsletter if you like or if I know it is coming up then I can put something together to see if we can get more people to attend or get involved. Keith D (talk) 18:17, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Cheers Keith. The newsletter goes out towards the beginning of the month, so next time I'm aware of another meet up, I'll inform you before the newsletter goes out. There was a York meet up back in 2011, I'm going to try and sort out another one at some point. Regards IJA (talk) 18:38, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-25[edit]

07:13, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG Hi, or as someone said to me a short while ago, heyup, and I had to stop and think as it was a long time since I’d heard that

It’s nice to know someone is taking an interest in my hard work, I had a quick look at your profile and it says you are a male native speaker of English, like me, but then it sez thas from Yorkshire; you are also an exile, again like me, probably doing missionary work, but you’re daan sarf and I’m oop north just over the border in Durham County But down to the nitty gritty. You had altered my Yorkshire Cup articles, and I bow to your greater superior knowledge re your comments on the text box (although the text box on my first article on the Lancashire cup, yonks ago, was modified by A N Other), so please carry out any modification required and also reference the bolding (which was my error and is easily rectified). However, I disagree with your change to the wording, which now doesn’t make sense. The Yorkshire cup is a metal article and not an occasion, and it was held by the winning captain/team, the occasion was the date The articles were rough checked by several friends prior to entering on Wiki, and speaking to them since, they agree that “mine is better than yours” Maybe my phrasing wasn’t perfect, but rather than both of us playing silly things, I would like to hear more of your thoughts on the errors in my phrase I’m sure between us we can come up with the perfect answer, Thanks in anticipation Alan

Alanfromwakefield (talk) 10:24, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi, the change I made was to bring the articles in line with the WP:MOS where it indicates the articles normally start with the article title in bold text. As the first word would be a number I inserted the word "The" before this as you do not start sentences with a number. The name of the competition is presumably Yorkshire Cup so the way I phrased it was suitable indicating it was the competition that took place in that particular year. Keith D (talk) 11:32, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Settle railway station[edit]

I've corrected the page number of the reference. Mjroots (talk) 15:52, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Change of date format in footnote on number format on Triumph TR7 Sprint[edit]

I shall have to check the certificate referenced in the article, but I think the format that was used is that on the certificate being referred to. And since this is a footnote specifically on the subject of numerical format, and on the basis of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Quotations, titles, etc., I shall return the article to using that format and make it clear that this is a reproduction of what is there, despite that being a format that is deprecated by the MoS, whatever the reason for that may be.

The only alternative I can see would be to cite a reference in the footnote, which seems to me to be a bit too incestuous.

Graham.Fountain | Talk 08:11, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

There was rather a mixture of date formats in the article and standardising it seemed appropriate. None appeared to be direct quotes and so appeared to be modifiable. Keith D (talk) 09:29, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-26[edit]

07:20, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-27[edit]

06:53, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - July 2014[edit]

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00:34, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


Hi Keith. As you know recently I've been adding quite a few articles on Lincs Grade I churches - a happy hunting ground. I would like advice on referencing architectural detailing. National Heritage, Kelly's, Cox and Pevsner are good sources, but in abbreviated form and typically very limited, which I develop somewhat elaborately, and enthusiastically stray into involved description based on photos I've taken, and use this within the info from the sources above. I am a little uncomfortable about this kind of thing which might be seen as original research and hiding non-reffed stuff within reffed—something I come down hard upon in others—even though the pictures show clearly the fact of the written detail. Can I use an inline citation link to the photos on Wikimedia to prove the text ? Am I straying onto dodgy ground with the developed text ? Any advice ? Acabashi (talk) 13:06, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi, difficult one this best advice I could locate was this which seems to imply that they are not useful as sources but can be used to give obvious descriptive details. Hope this helps. Keith D (talk) 13:26, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I suppose if the "descriptive details" use could be seen as reasonable, how do I point to the details in photos. I think I will get further advice from the Wikipedians involved in that discussion. Acabashi (talk) 14:11, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
I have opened up a discussion on this here. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 15:24, 2 July 2014 (UTC)


Hi Keith. Would you consider a semi-protect on this one please ? Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 22:08, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Looks sensible, I have given it a month semi-protection for now. If it needs longer then let me know when protection lapses. Keith D (talk) 22:13, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-28[edit]

07:07, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Bramhope Tunnel and Talk:Bramhope Tunnel[edit]

Hi Keith. Please could you kindly give me some advice on this one? It's the same problem and technically so far I've done two reverts (one compound 8 June, one simple 8 July). I don't want to do a third. I have explained the difficulty at great length and detail on the discussion page. I think the editor concerned believes he/she is well-intentioned, but has so far been unable to learn that his/her edits are not helpful. The editor is also refusing to discuss on the talkpage before editing.--Storye book (talk) 14:37, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi, cannot immediately think of what to do with this one. There is some engagement on the talk page which is at least promising but resorting to IP edits is not very helpful, especially as it leaves a red-link in the infobox. The new section on the accident needs looking at as the English needs sorting out as it does not read right in places. I think that all you can do is to try and engage the editor on the talk page and to correct errors they introduce. If there are specific content problems then you could try Third opinion or Request for comment but probably over the top. Hope this helps. Keith D (talk) 21:43, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:cite doi RfC[edit]

Because you commented at this discussion, I would appreciate your views at this RfC on the larger issue of DOI templates. Thanks! -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:24, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Informal note[edit]

Hey, I notice that you have HighBeam access and you seem to have a few topicons. That being said, if you are interested, I've created {{Wikipedia:HighBeam/Topicon}}. No reply to this message is necessary (and I won't see it unless you ping me), just wanted to let you know it was available. Face-smile.svg Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 23:58, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-29[edit]

07:48, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-30[edit]

07:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Bradford History[edit]

Hi there. I am new to wiki and noticed your edit of Bradford page. I am not sure yet how to edit. I think 3 important events are missing and wondered if you might add them. Even if it just a sentence for each event The wool combers strike 1825 The planned chartist uprising (to join in with Newport uprising Dec 1839) in Jan 1840 The 1842 plug riots (general strike ) at Halifax when Bradfordians marched to Halifax , some armed

All the best — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:59, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

I have put in a sentence about the wool-combers strike as I found a place to fit it into the text, though I could not find the page number for the reference as Google books did not give the page numbers. I could not find anywhere to fit the other items into the text as it stands. If you have any suggestions then I can revisit. May be we need to think about creating a History of Bradford article to give more details. Keith D (talk) 01:25, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-31[edit]

08:09, 28 July 2014 (UTC)