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Tech News: 2023-40[edit]

MediaWiki message delivery 01:25, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 3 October 2023[edit]

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text: Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.

Technical news

  • Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2023-41[edit]

MediaWiki message delivery 14:37, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Featured picture scheduled for POTD[edit]

Hi King of Hearts,

This is to let you know that File:Sea Girt_Lighthouse_October_2020.jpg, a featured picture you uploaded, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for October 13, 2023. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2023-10-13. If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you!  — Amakuru (talk) 09:16, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sea Girt Light

The Sea Girt Light is a lighthouse marking the inlet leading to the Wreck Pond in Sea Girt, New Jersey, United States. It is located on a stretch of the New Jersey shore between the Barnegat and Navesink lighthouses. Its site was chosen after a previous proposal for a lighthouse at Manasquan Inlet was found infeasible, and it was first lit in December 1896. Protections against sand erosion were added in 1900 and the 1920s, and in 1921, Sea Girt Light was equipped with a radio beacon for use in fog, the first such installation on a shore-based light in the US. At the outset of World War II, the light was deactivated and the lens removed; the house was remodeled to serve as a dormitory for a Coast Guard observation post. At the end of the war, an aerobeacon was mounted atop the tower, with the original lighthouse being decommissioned. In 1955, a new beacon was erected away from the building on a steel tower on the lawn. The building was sold to the borough of Sea Girt shortly after. It was used for the town library and for meeting space for many years, while the beacon itself remained operational until 1977. The building was taken over by the Sea Girt Lighthouse Citizens Committee in 1980 and was subsequently restored. It now serves as a museum, offering tours.

Photograph credit: King of Hearts

Great picture[edit]

I was impressed by the clarity and framing of today's featured picture. I thought a message about that was in order. Great work! Donner60 (talk) 19:33, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2023-42[edit]

MediaWiki message delivery 23:45, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 23 October 2023[edit]

Tech News: 2023-43[edit]

MediaWiki message delivery 23:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Eric Higgs[edit]

Not unambiguous; Eric Sidney Higgs can also be referred to as such. All plausible targets ("Eric Higgs", "Eric S. Higgs", "Eric Sidney Higgs") are controversial, so start an WP:RM and we can discuss

Discussion already well underway at Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation#Middle_names_or_parenthetical_disambiguation? for some time. There’s no hard rule that says a discussion has to be in a certain place using a specific process or procedure. Viriditas (talk) 01:02, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Viriditas: People interested in participating in RMs in general are much more likely to find an entry on WP:RM than on Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation, so it is important to use the right procedure in order to ensure that the discussion is sufficiently advertised. But regardless of the location of the discussion, I simply do not see how it supports a consensus of disambiguating as Eric S. Higgs; in fact, several of the participants oppose it. -- King of ♥ 01:08, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That was not my original choice of a target. Also, while you’re at it, you should edit the disambiguation guideline to remove "natural disambiguation that is unambiguous, commonly used, and clear is generally preferable to parenthetical disambiguation" since the community isn’t following it. See the move history and discussion for details. Viriditas (talk) 01:17, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, I very much agree with that guideline, and in fact would support Eric Stowe Higgs (my move comment was a mistake, I meant to say "Stowe" instead of "Sidney"). To me, what this guideline means is that two names for the same person are in the same ballpark of popularity, and one of them is ambiguous and the other is unambiguous, we should prefer the unambiguous name over a parenthetically disambiguated ambiguous name, even if the ambiguous name is slightly more popular. Ortizesp reverted your first move because they don't think the popularity of "Eric Higgs" and "Eric Stowe Higgs" for the environmental scholar are in the same ballpark, which is a valid position to have (even if we both disagree with it; this is exactly why we need to hold an RM). I reverted your second move because it fails the ambiguity criterion; I do not think he is the primary topic of "Eric S. Higgs". -- King of ♥ 01:31, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not a fan of the bureaucracy. I just don’t see a need for a RM discussion when literally all of the arguments for and against that will and can be made have already been said on the dab talk page. Do you need more input to make another move? Viriditas (talk) 01:38, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the discussion has died and no consensus has emerged. An RM will help drive new eyes to the discussion. I would prefer to move to Eric Stowe Higgs, but since it has already been reverted before, it is not proper to reinstate the change without a clear consensus. -- King of ♥ 01:42, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Right, this is kind of thing I tend to avoid these days and have less than zero interest in participating in. I leave it in the hands of the community to do whatever they want in this regard. Thanks for the discussion. Viriditas (talk) 01:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2023-44[edit]

MediaWiki message delivery 23:19, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]