User talk:Donner60

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New messages[edit]

Please put new messages at the bottom of the page. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 08:39, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia policies, guidelines; twitter, facebook; what Wikipedia is not; avoiding common mistakes[edit]

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User Talk page guidelines[edit]

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Disambiguation link and bracket bot notifications[edit]

I occasionally get one of these notices. I fix the link or bracket, then delete the message, as the messages state is permissible, instead of further cluttering up these pages. Donner60 (talk) 05:13, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Jefferson Finis Davis[edit]

Thank you for that correction.

I had assumed the Encyclopedia Britannica was correct in listing his middle name as "Finis" but after reading more into the matter, there is no solid evidence of what his middle name actually was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:03, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Your welcome. The real thanks goes to those who found the information. Occasionally the Encyclopedia Brittanica has gotten a detail wrong. Donner60 (talk) 03:57, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

The Creature from Jekyll Island[edit]

Excuse me; how is a plot summary from jekyll's island an unconstructive edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:45, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I have deleted my notice as possibly unfair. However, I am not sure the edit is proper. At least one other editor has made a reversion and added comments on your talk page. I also add some comments. Donner60 (talk) 05:50, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

He reverted a subsequent comment; asking how this edit was unconstructive. I'm not used to wiki's chat system yet. I'll forward your comments to him, since he is citing you as the main objection i.e. another editor reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:04, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Note that I did not state that I thought the edit was proper, only that it was unfair for me to characterize it as vandalism at that point. Donner60 (talk) 06:09, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Apollo 17[edit]

Actually, despite's too-cute way of introducing the mouse experiment on Apollo 17 (seeing as his first edits were these [1] [2], it was hard to take him seriously), it appears that the Bio-core experiment he describes was included, or at least was planned. See "NASA Press Release no. 72-220K (Apollo 17)". November 26, 1972. pp. 62–63 (106–107 in PDF document). Retrieved July 14, 2014.  If we can find verification the planned project was retained in the mission, I would not be averse to adding it to the article in an appropriately encyclopedic way (i.e., absent the nonsense).

[SFX: more googling]

Looks like it was performed as planned. See Apollo 17: Preliminary Science Report. NASA SP-330 (1973), chapter 26 (pp. 451-463 in my copy of the PDF), avail from here or here. TJRC (talk) 05:26, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I agree that it should be added. Will you do so? I think I will delete the last warning on his talk page and add a note. Donner60 (talk) 05:29, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
I'll try to read the full section 26 tomorrow and add something. TJRC (talk) 06:26, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. (It is getting very late here tonight and probably also where you may be.) I wish the user had been more mature about editing the article at the outset. He could have saved himself and others some trouble. Donner60 (talk) 06:30, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
My initial take: [3]. I'm sure it could be improved (at the very least, it would be nice to have the brain findings documented). TJRC (talk) 21:19, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
I found and added the information on the brains (no significant effect). TJRC (talk) 21:46, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I just looked at the IP's talk page. The unblock request has not been acted upon. It seems as if the 24 hours will run, or nearly so, before the administrator acts on the request. I am not sure whether other administrators become aware of unblock requests and another administrator could step in. It seems increasingly unlikely. Maybe a large number are on vacation. Perhaps our comments will help the IP straighten out. Donner60 (talk) 02:44, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Your birthday here[edit]

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hero of reviewing
On your second Wiki-birthday, thank you for your collaborative reviewing for DYK, unafraid of a triple nom, seeking contact with all editors, commenting with precision, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were the 186th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:39, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Time flies. Donner60 (talk) 22:10, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day[edit]

Nuvola apps cookie.svg Happy First Edit Day, Donner60, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Anastasia (talk) 17:54, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Donner60 (talk) 22:10, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

RE: List of solar storms[edit]

History of Hydro-Québec is already covered in March 1989 geomagnetic storm. (talk) 06:39, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. It looked out of place but I missed the earlier mention. That makes sense. I suppose the inclusion in the "see also" section would be considered superfluous by some but I am not concerned much either way as long as it is relevant. Donner60 (talk) 07:25, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Because the IP user has been blocked as a sockpuppet, I added the following to the IP user talk page: In view of this block, I re-examined the List of solar storms article and the proposed see also link to the History of Hydro-Quebec. That link is in fact superfluous because as the user noted, the event is already listed in the article. Also, there is a link to an entire article about the storm which affected Hydro-Quebec. The history article merely briefly mentions the storm and links to the longer article. So it is a somewhat relevant link but it is not really useful and is quite unnecessary in view of the more specific article. I should add that this user did not add the link that I reverted so his comment was useful. Donner60 (talk) 22:11, 23 July 2014 (UTC)