User talk:Mendors/Archives/2007/July
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Wrong user?
{{subst:prodwarning}} is for creators and contributors to the affected articles. Not sure why you gave KApplebaum (talk · contribs) one, seeing as she was only affixing some tags. Picaroon (Talk) 02:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
- From my reading of the prodwarning, it is there to indicate to people who have contributed to the article and thus those who may have an interest that it may be deleted. It could be that the user has additional knowledge about the article in which case it seems to be a good idea to let them know about the change.--Mendors 07:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Windows text editors
Want to get out a flamethrower and help me clear this category, then? I didn't know the problem was that pervasive. hbdragon88 01:11, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
From reading the AfD section on how to list multiple articles for deletion I think it would be best to list all the non-notable text editors as a single group. It does advise listing a single member of the group for AfD (as you did with Crimson Editor) to see how this proceeds. From looking at that article, it went through an AfD previously, which resulted in a keep, so this may be a contentious group AfD.
From looking through the category, I'd consider the following entries to be worthy of attention:
- AcroEdit - not notable
- Beaver (text editor) - not notable
- Cream (software) - probably should be merged into Vim (text editor)
- E Text Editor - not notable
- EmEditor - not notable
- GWD Text Editor - not notable
- HAPedit - not notable
- Komodo Edit - not notable
- Notepad++ - not notable
- PSPad - not notable
- Programmer's File Editor - not notable
- SciTE - not notable
- VS.Php - not notable
- Vile (text editor) - not notable
- WinVi (text editor) - not notable
What makes interesting reading is the first AfD to EditPad.
Perhaps what is required is a WP policy for establishing software notability (is there one? there are none listed in Category:Wikipedia_notability_guidelines) like there is for academics (WP:PROF).
Perhaps the best option might be to establish a policy first which will need significant agreement from a number of editors and then let it be applied. --Mendors 01:53, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
- WP:SOFTWARE burned and died, so the basics of WP:N are all that we have to fall back on. I'm only involved now after somehow reading Vacuum Cleaner 01 (talk · contribs)'s user talk page and finding that his AFD attempts burned up because he considered all the articles to be spammy and advertising, which to most people were not. Group AFDs are not recommended – we can prod simultaneously, but if we AFD them all at once people might think we're being disruptive.
- By the way, you only need to put a colon in front of category wikilinks. hbdragon88 02:02, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
- I've added dated notability tags to those that appear not to be notable and a mergeto in the one that should be merged.--Mendors 02:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
- This is an annoying tag, in my opinion. One person's kerfluffle is another person's burning interest. Isn't this, at base, an arbitrary value judgment? I think the e editor is notable because it's the only Windows editor that supports TextMate bundles, and InType is probably the premier Rails editor (and the most notable OS X text editor by a long shot). So, why is it not notable? --Gtcaz 18:52, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Hitler
Why did you delete my question about Hitler on Tramadol? It's not trolling - i seriously wanted to ask whether it's an urban legend or not that it was named after Hitler. --Amir E. Aharoni 08:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- I might have over reacted but the tramadol page is heavily vandalized and the update seemed to be Godwin's Law in action.--Mendors 10:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- Just as i thought. Thanks. --Amir E. Aharoni 11:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree with your nomination for speedy deletion, but I don't agree it's a Test page. I just think it has no assertion of notability. Anyway, please keep flagging! --Dweller 10:59, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- A few minutes before flagging this page I'd flagged a very similar article that referenced the same video but this time it added text that it was an Israeli kicking a Palestinian child, although posted by a different user (it has since been speedily deleted). It very much looked like a test page from someone simply copying the page, however it did also border on the notability and vandalism (it may have been the same user with multiple accounts), so since the standard templates only list a single reason I used the test page one.--Mendors 19:38, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Spain
I inform you that Ceuta is a part of Spain. It is not a dependence but a Spanish city. Please, excuse me my English level. Arzautz 13:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- I assume that you are referencing my user page and the recent change you made to it to remove the Ceuta flag. Please note that my user page just says "I have visited..." and it does not use the word country or any other description apart from listing the flags associated with each place. For Ceuta, I used the flag from the Ceuta page. I am well aware of all the issues around Ceuta and similarly Gibraltar from having spent a few weeks in the area, so I am being very careful in my descriptions to avoid contributing to any ill feeling over this issue. However please do not remove the flag from my user page.
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blind man hadith
why are you doing things so silly if you not know the important of the topic. thanksZikrullah 09:21, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
- The article you are referencing, Hadith of the blind man, has already been created and deleted twice today, hence my WP:CSD#G4 tag.. You simply recreating it with the hangon tag already present (before anyone had even added a speedy delete tag). Your article almost certainly infringes WP:NPOV and from the deletion log comments, two administrators have indicated it contravened on context and copyvio.--Mendors 09:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
UPPERCASE
Why may not written in Wikipedia in all CAPS?Roded86400 08:34, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- People writing articles should follow the Manual of Style, in particular the capital letters (all caps) section suggests that you avoid using all caps.--Mendors 10:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Guansi, Hsinchu
Guansi, HsinchuRoded86400 22:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Luodong Sports Park
Luodong Sports Park Roded86400 22:11, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Baisha Township
Hello, you are just online. can you able to copy edit Baisha Township? Thank you. Roded86400 22:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, I've made a few changes to the three articles you've linked here, however having never (yet) been to Taiwan and not speaking Chineese I can not be perfectly sure I'm maintaining the original meaning in my edits. You may want to locate an editor who is more familiar with the locations and languages as they may be able to assist you with more accurate help. A good place for this would be via WP:TAIWAN where you will find people with an interest in the country and the articles relating to Taiwan. However I'm happy to continue to help you where I can.--Mendors 23:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
New Article
I'm sorry for the confusing title, but the article was supposed to be called "List of artists to knock theirself off number 1 spot (U.S.)" but due to invalid characters ("#1"), the title was changed. I have now edited the title and I hope you will not delete it because it makes sence. It is an article about artists that topped the Billboard Hot 100 chart, and then, after their last week with that single, directly topped the chart again with a single of their own. Darius20 10:30, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- My concern about the article is not directly related to the page title, but around it being pure trivia, hence how notable it is plus WP:TRIVIA also comes into play. As to what the page title should be (assuming notability, etc), I'm not too sure.
- For your question about the size of a page title, I had a look and could not find anything that indicates how long a page title can be. I would expect that the maximum size would be fairly large however I expect it will be limited.--Mendors 10:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
Auckland Meetup - 11 August 2007 1pm
You are invited to Auckland Meetup 3 on the afternoon of Saturday 11 August 2007 at Ironique in Mt Eden. Please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland 3 for details. You can also watch Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland to be informed of future NZ meetups. Linnah 22:14, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Tagging of Streetrowing
I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on Streetrowing. I do not think that Streetrowing fits any of the speedy deletion criteria because this appears to be an article about an activity, not a blatent advertisement for a firm or person. I request that you consider not re-tagging Streetrowing for speedy deletion without discussing the matter on the appropriate talk page. DES (talk) 22:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)