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——————————————— Wee Curry Monster's Talk Page ——————————————— Please note that it is 9:12 PM (GMT), where I live I will normally reply to your message on your talk page but will frequently reply here if it is warranted. To be honest, the way I respond is chaotic and haphazard, don't be offended if I forget. For information, I have removed all user pages from my watchlist and the drama boards of WP:ANI and WP:AN, I am not interested in that nonsense. One of my pet hates is the drive by tagger. People whose sole contribution to wikipedia is adding multiple {{cn}} tags to articles but never getting off their lazy backsides to find citations themselves. One aspect of this that is particularly irritating is they're often added in the middle of a sentence ignoring the existing citation, which 99% of the time corroborates the information. If you remove unneeded tags, provide an edit summary to that effect, their usual response is to edit war a tag back pompously spouting off about policy. If you're one of these people coming here to give me a lecture because I removed your tag, well, I strongly suggest you don't. I recommend WP:SOFIXIT ie get off your lazy backside and do the donkey work yourself instead of leaving it to others. I realise this is personal opinion but I consider the only use for tags is A) as a personal reminder to go back and fix something, B) to tag something you're concerned about, intuitively feel is correct but you can't find a cite or finally C) you've tried to find a cite, can't corroborate information but someone is edit warring challenged material back into an article. Do any of those and its thumbs up from me! Please post new messages at the bottom of this page and don't forget to give your message a heading. Remember to sign using the four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your message. Please be civil, if you fail to be civil I will simply ignore you. As a Glaswegian (born, bred and proud of it) I speak directly and don't pussy foot around. Whilst I'm direct, I do try to be polite. I have observed there are far too many editors on Wikipedia who take offence at comments I and others make. Usually this is because they read into a comment, a totally unintended meaning. Remember text is a crap medium for conveying nuance. What you interpret as sarcasm in all probability was a light hearted or jocular remark. Textual communication is further complicated by cultural differences in the way English is used. For example: An American describing something as quite nice will mean it as a compliment, whereas a Brit is more than likely saying it is crap. If you find yourself here after taking offence at something I've written, breathe, count to ten and assume good faith before posting. If I've deleted your message, basically that means I've read it and nothing else. I do tend to delete what I regard as niff naff and trivia. Repeatedly adding the same message to my talk page will simply piss me off and more than likely just be deleted. Refer to WP:3RR, I can delete comments on my own talk page if I like but you don't get to badger me. Per WP:UP#CMT I am perfectly within my rights to remove comments. If you're asked not to comment here then please respect that and don't. There are a number of friendly talk page stalkers, who have my permission to remove comments that are unwelcome. If they do so, please respect my wishes and do not revert. I do not claim to be infallible, occasionally I'll revert something in error. I've also noticed a tendency when editing on my tablet to occasionally hit Rollback by accident. If you've spotted what you think is a strange edit of mine, accidental rollback is usually the answer. Feel free to point it out to me but if its rollback I would suggest you just revert; I don't mind people fixing my screw ups. If you're here because of the revert of a reasonable edit, then may I suggest you first of all ask yourself did you provide an informative edit summary or properly source the edit I reverted. You will find a civil comment will receive a reply (and most likely an apology if warranted). User:Antandrus some time ago wrote an excellent essay entitled observations on Wikipedia behavior. I suggest it as recommended reading to everyone. I used to do a lot of work on recent changes patrolling to stop wikifiddling, vandalism and partisan changes to the articles on my watchlist. I don't tend to do that much these days but long ago came to the conclusion that most people who post such crap do so because they think Wikipedia exists to right great wrongs or set the world to rights. Sorry but, newsflash, it doesn't; its an encyclopedia nothing more. A bed rock policy of Wikipedia is to present a neutral point of view. Contrary to popular opinion this does not mean we have to represent ALL views. Rather wikipedia represents the predominant views in the literature, this doesn't mean that we represent fringe material with undue prominence. The more advanced POV pushers decide after reading a bit of policy that sourcing makes their edits bulletproof. Wrong again. Sources have to be reliable, so the conspiracy website or the book by a crank doesn't mean your edit is sacrosanct. If you've come to wikipedia because you're convinced J. Edgar Hoover was the second gunman on the grassy knoll please jog on. I've pointed you to relevant policy about why your edit was removed in what was intended to be a humorous manner, so please don't bug me any further. The essay WP:DICK is often trotted out on wikipedia, I try not to refer it to myself anymore. Why? It's my observation that most editors who refer to that essay are complete and utter dicks themselves. It's a sad fact that there are still a lot of arseholes editing wikipedia, it's not worth getting into a spat with them as they're determined they will have the last word and thereby "win" the discussion. Sometimes, best thing is to just walk away and as my grannie used to say "let the baby have it's chocolate". If you're new to Wikipedia, please see Welcome to Wikipedia or frequently asked questions. If you need editing help, head here.

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“ Many people are like garbage trucks. They run around full of garbage, full of frustration, full of anger, and full of disappointment. As their garbage piles up, they look for a place to dump it. And if you let them, they’ll dump it on you. So when someone wants to dump on you, don’t take it personally. Just smile, wave, wish them well, and move on. Believe me. You’ll be happier. --THE LAW OF THE GARBAGE TRUCK ”

To all the garbage trucks I've offended unwittingly, I just want to...

1.) Smile.

2.) Wave.

3.) And wish you well.

4.) Bye... I'm moving on !

Have a nice day !

Paulioetc

You've probably spotted that they're now using the ID JamesHawks, which I've just added to the BLP noticeboard section. Nick Cooper (talk) 12:42, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually, you've obviously spotted him already! Nick Cooper (talk) 12:43, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

User:Alan_Tarng

Are you thinking what I'm thinking? (ps the addition seems more or less word for word a match with http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/friendly-fire-t15869.html) I'll also note the 40 aircraft is a lot for a squadron and the article on 233 mentions 30 Dakotas and some Ansons at the start of the day and losses of only 4 aircraft. GraemeLeggett (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Falklands

Glad to hear my PR comments were useful - thanks for letting me know, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 15:47, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

The time zone information needs to be updated to reflect the all year round "summer time" experiment for 2011. This means that Camp Time is going to be GMT-4 and Stanley Time GMT-3 all year round. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.248.193.121 (talk) 18:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

RSN

I saw your note at RSN, and while I have no particularly useful contribution, I wanted to express my sympathy. Dealing with POV warriors on the basis of what they merely guess the source says is enormously frustrating. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:04, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, it nearly caused me to leave the project and I've had no support from admins. Wee Curry Monster talk 07:48, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

I hope that you'll stick around. Unfortunately, it really takes quite a lot to get the community to defend itself from nonsense. I think part of the problem is that we can't look across the room and see that people are tearing their hair out, so we can always pretend that whoever is doing that thankless task is perfectly happy and handling it all just fine.

I did eventually have one small idea: Are you familiar with the WP:LIBRARY? If you need to find out whether a source actually says what it is purported to say, and can't get the source yourself, then it's sometimes possible to find someone with access to it who will check for you. I can't say that it's 100% reliable, but it might be worth trying if you're desperate. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:35, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello, Wee Curry Monster. You have new messages at Mike Rosoft's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Your comment

Regarding this [1] I hope you do not think I have ownership issues? I have used the talk page and discussed to death every edit I have made. All the content is (I feel) well written and well supported. Do you think I do have issues? What would your advice be? Tentontunic (talk) 17:06, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, I responded on my talk page, but thought I had better mention it in case you missed it :) Tentontunic (talk) 17:49, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello

You may also find this group helpful Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Shared Resources - they have may more resources and the page has links to digitized bibs of books like at Bibliography of Canadian military history.Moxy (talk) 01:05, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your message. I won't comment further because I'm convinced that resolution will only come (gradually) from working on the detail. Good wishes -- Andrew Dalby 08:32, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Paulioetc

Hi Wee Cury, after being swamped with work and lately with the Libyan crisis and a lot of editing at my home-province of South Tyrol I decided today to have a look at Paulioetc... oh, yeah! this one is a problem! I put Friendly fire on my watchlist and will keep and eye on it now too. noclador (talk) 07:19, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Arbitration Enforcement

Note that you have been mentioned in a request for arbitration enforcement here. Pfainuk talk 21:04, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Question

Hello, Wee Curry Monster. I appeal to you because I might have discovered a possible case of manipulation in a wikipedia page belonging to the military history project, though I'm not sure. The page which I'm refering to is Battle of Villaviciosa. It's apparently suitable referenced, but most of the cited content appears to be a translation of an article in a Spanish website here. I have thoroughly studied the policies of Wikipedia, but I don't know if in this particular case they are being violated or not.--Sir Ignel (talk) 17:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC)