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(Hello, I have been blocked from adding data on Criss Angel site. I'm now familiar with the policies of wikipedia and understand now that I need to maintain a neutral point of view while respecting the point of views of others and what I add must be sourced data. The last edit I did was just that and yet it was removed for being sited as promotional and copyrighted material but that is not the case. The Orville Redenbacher commercial was a success and sourced to the publication of the ratings for that. I would like to request to be unblocked. [[User:Lolorenabanana|Lolorenabanana]] ([[User talk:Lolorenabanana#top|talk]]) 18:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC))
(Hello, I have been blocked from adding data on Criss Angel site. I'm now familiar with the policies of wikipedia and understand now that I need to maintain a neutral point of view while respecting the point of views of others and what I add must be sourced data. The last edit I did was just that and yet it was removed for being sited as promotional and copyrighted material but that is not the case. The Orville Redenbacher commercial was a success and sourced to the publication of the ratings for that. I would like to request to be unblocked. [[User:Lolorenabanana|Lolorenabanana]] ([[User talk:Lolorenabanana#top|talk]]) 18:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC))
:Lolorena, you're not currently blocked. [[User:Qwyrxian|Qwyrxian]] ([[User talk:Qwyrxian|talk]]) 02:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
:Lolorena, you're not currently blocked. [[User:Qwyrxian|Qwyrxian]] ([[User talk:Qwyrxian|talk]]) 02:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
::I think we are going to have the same problems. Saying {{xt|The last edit I did was just that and yet it was removed for being sited as promotional and copyrighted material but that is not the case.}} means that this editor is going to repeat exactly the same behaviour which got them blocked in the first place. The material they added has been established as a copyvio from Criss Angel's official website and they still refuse or are simply unable to acknowledge it . [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 03:00, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

== Some copyvio examples ==

*From [http://official.crissangel.com/criss/biography official.crissangel.com]: {{xt|More of an event than a show, BeLIEve is performed live 8 to 10 times a week and will continue its 10 year run at the Luxor Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas and has been the best- selling live magic show in the world since it opened. The Toronto Star raved "The show is easily the most exciting thing now on stage in Vegas!" The BBC touted "BeLIEve is A+, by far the most spectacular and amazing magic show in Vegas and I've seen them all", and Newsweek raves, "Criss Angel BeLIEve is a GREAT SHOW!"}}
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criss_Angel&diff=466011223&oldid=466010601 15 December 2011 Lolo's edit]: {{xt|More of an event than a show, BeLIEve is performed live 8 to 10 times a week and will continue its 10 year run at the Luxor Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas and has been the best-selling live magic show in the world since it opened. The Toronto Star raved, “The show is easily the most exciting thing now on stage in Vegas!”}}


*From the same website: {{xt|Simultaneously, Criss has also partnered with Cirque Du Soleil and MGM Resorts International to serve as writer/director, illusion designer and star of his spectacular live show "Criss Angel BeLIEve." More of an event than a show, BeLIEve is performed live 8 to 10 times a week and will continue its 10 year run at the Luxor Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas and has been the best- selling live magic show in the world since it opened.}}
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criss_Angel&diff=467953174&oldid=467948868 14:26, 27 December 2011 Lolo's edit]: {{xt|Criss partnered with Cirque Du Soleil and MGM Resorts International to serve as writer/director, illusions creator and designer, original concept creator and star of his spectacular live show "Criss Angel BeLIEve.” More of an event than a show, BeLIEve is performed live 8 to 10 times a week and will continue its 10 year run at the Luxor Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas and has been the best-selling live magic show since it opened.}} [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 03:17, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


*From Angel's website: {{xt|In 2011 Criss' brand power continued to evolve when he was chosen to co-create and appear in a new commercial campaign for Orville Redenbacher's Pop Up Bowl. His casting proved to be a huge coup for the brand as the commercial has proved the best-recalled new spot in May, according to the latest research from Nielsen, beating out mainstream brands such as Ford, Volkswagen, Kraft and McDonalds just to name a few.}}
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criss_Angel&diff=467953174&oldid=467948868 14:26, 27 December 2011 Lolo's edit]: {{xt|In 2011 Criss was featured in the Orville Redenbacher Pop-Up Bowl commercial. His casting proved to be a huge success for the brand as the commercial has proved the best-recalled new spot in May, according to the latest research from Nielsen, beating out mainstream brands such as Ford, Volkswagen, Kraft and McDonalds just to name a few.}}

And they still fail to acknowledge that they violated the copyright policy of Wikipedia. Not very encouraging. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 03:19, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

More copyvio information [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Moonriddengirl&diff=465315343&oldid=465314623#Large-scale_copyvios_on_Criss_Angel from my report on MRG's talk]. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 03:26, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Finally a last comment: It is rather interesting that Lolo never links directly to [http://official.crissangel.com/criss/biography official.crissangel.com], even though they copy directly from the site. Rather they use other websites, not carrying the copyvio text. I wonder why. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 04:22, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Revision as of 04:22, 30 December 2011

Conflict of interest, removal of sourced information, copying content from external sites

Hello. Your edit to Criss Angel has been reverted for several reasons.

First, you are removing sourced information. Removing sourced information without a good explanation of why is not generally seen as constructive. If you want to remove sourced information, you should explain why in edit summary and at the article's talk page. Please be advised that it is common for articles on Wikipedia to cover all major viewpoints of subjects, which would include critical commentary.

Second, material you are adding is generally unsourced and appears to be promotional. If you are affiliated with Criss Angel, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

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Finally, you are including text that has been previously published in other sites, such as [1]. In accordance with our copyright policy, we cannot accept content from previously published sites unless it is compatibly licensed or public domain. See Wikipedia:Copy-paste. If you are the owner of the content or, as you seem to be, connected with Criss Angel, see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials, but please be aware that it is seldom suitable under Wikipedia's policies and guidelines to copy extensively from a subject's website. Official websites naturally exist to promote their subjects, but Wikipedia articles do not. Our articles are intended to provide neutral overviews of notable subjects.

Please see Wikipedia:Introduction to learn more about Wikipedia and its mission. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:36, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

December 2011

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Criss Angel. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 19:50, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'm a bot created by another Wikipedia editor. I wanted to let you know that I removed a link that you recently added to the page Criss Angel here. I did this because http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=criss+angel+walks+on+water&oq=criss+angel+walk&aq=0&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=535l4052l0l6134l16l9l0l0l0l0l1100l2141l1.3.1.1.7-1l7l0 is probably inappropriate for an encyclopedia. We generally try to avoid linking to external audio or video.

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Thank you! --XLinkBot (talk) 17:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add soapboxing, promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, as you did at Criss Angel, you may be blocked from editing. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 15:37, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your addition to Criss Angel has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Please stop adding promotional and copyrighted material from: http://official.crissangel.com/criss/biography Dr.K. λogosπraxis 15:44, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for violating copyright policy by copying text or images into Wikipedia from another source without verifying permission. You have been previously warned that this is against policy, but have persisted. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Qwyrxian (talk) 08:38, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In addition to repeatedly violating our copyright policies, you are still removing sourced criticism without valid explanation. If you continue doing this after your block expires, your account is likely to be blocked indefinitely. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:34, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]


You have been blocked temporarily from editing for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:59, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Criss Angel

(Hello, I have been blocked from adding data on Criss Angel site. I'm now familiar with the policies of wikipedia and understand now that I need to maintain a neutral point of view while respecting the point of views of others and what I add must be sourced data. The last edit I did was just that and yet it was removed for being sited as promotional and copyrighted material but that is not the case. The Orville Redenbacher commercial was a success and sourced to the publication of the ratings for that. I would like to request to be unblocked. Lolorenabanana (talk) 18:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Lolorena, you're not currently blocked. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think we are going to have the same problems. Saying The last edit I did was just that and yet it was removed for being sited as promotional and copyrighted material but that is not the case. means that this editor is going to repeat exactly the same behaviour which got them blocked in the first place. The material they added has been established as a copyvio from Criss Angel's official website and they still refuse or are simply unable to acknowledge it . Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 03:00, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some copyvio examples

  • From official.crissangel.com: More of an event than a show, BeLIEve is performed live 8 to 10 times a week and will continue its 10 year run at the Luxor Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas and has been the best- selling live magic show in the world since it opened. The Toronto Star raved "The show is easily the most exciting thing now on stage in Vegas!" The BBC touted "BeLIEve is A+, by far the most spectacular and amazing magic show in Vegas and I've seen them all", and Newsweek raves, "Criss Angel BeLIEve is a GREAT SHOW!"
  • 15 December 2011 Lolo's edit: More of an event than a show, BeLIEve is performed live 8 to 10 times a week and will continue its 10 year run at the Luxor Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas and has been the best-selling live magic show in the world since it opened. The Toronto Star raved, “The show is easily the most exciting thing now on stage in Vegas!”


  • From the same website: Simultaneously, Criss has also partnered with Cirque Du Soleil and MGM Resorts International to serve as writer/director, illusion designer and star of his spectacular live show "Criss Angel BeLIEve." More of an event than a show, BeLIEve is performed live 8 to 10 times a week and will continue its 10 year run at the Luxor Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas and has been the best- selling live magic show in the world since it opened.
  • 14:26, 27 December 2011 Lolo's edit: Criss partnered with Cirque Du Soleil and MGM Resorts International to serve as writer/director, illusions creator and designer, original concept creator and star of his spectacular live show "Criss Angel BeLIEve.” More of an event than a show, BeLIEve is performed live 8 to 10 times a week and will continue its 10 year run at the Luxor Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas and has been the best-selling live magic show since it opened. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 03:17, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]


  • From Angel's website: In 2011 Criss' brand power continued to evolve when he was chosen to co-create and appear in a new commercial campaign for Orville Redenbacher's Pop Up Bowl. His casting proved to be a huge coup for the brand as the commercial has proved the best-recalled new spot in May, according to the latest research from Nielsen, beating out mainstream brands such as Ford, Volkswagen, Kraft and McDonalds just to name a few.
  • 14:26, 27 December 2011 Lolo's edit: In 2011 Criss was featured in the Orville Redenbacher Pop-Up Bowl commercial. His casting proved to be a huge success for the brand as the commercial has proved the best-recalled new spot in May, according to the latest research from Nielsen, beating out mainstream brands such as Ford, Volkswagen, Kraft and McDonalds just to name a few.

And they still fail to acknowledge that they violated the copyright policy of Wikipedia. Not very encouraging. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 03:19, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

More copyvio information from my report on MRG's talk. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 03:26, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Finally a last comment: It is rather interesting that Lolo never links directly to official.crissangel.com, even though they copy directly from the site. Rather they use other websites, not carrying the copyvio text. I wonder why. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 04:22, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]