User talk:Edgar181
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Contents
- 1 Youth League U15 page deletion
- 2 Administrators' newsletter – September 2018
- 3 Request for deletion
- 4 Continuation of "Request for deletion"
- 5 Dave Roller on Wikipedia
- 6 User:GanonsBane
- 7 Changes to update
- 8 Please comment on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard
- 9 Image of Pamabrom
- 10 Acetamiprid
- 11 Administrators' newsletter – October 2018
- 12 Ureas
- 13 Sock
- 14 Legal Threat
- 15 Cefiderocol drugbox
- 16 Disambiguation link notification for October 27
- 17 Thanks
- 18 A barnstar for you!
- 19 Midazolam
- 20 Høgni Mohr
- 21 Administrators' newsletter – November 2018
- 22 request for svg image
- 23 fr:Acétamidoglycine
- 24 Vandalism on page Survivor Series (2018)
- 25 IP socking
- 26 request to delete category I made by accident:
- 27 Chromium acetate
- 28 Epoxides
- 29 Edit question
Youth League U15 page deletion[edit]
Dear Edgar181 sir, why did you delete the page about the u15 youth league of india?There are so many waste pages i have been seeing from last 7 years hardly contain one or two links. My atricle was truly genuine with more than 10 links.Can you explain me what was wrong? It's possible to do something different? Let me know Andrea Abhishe78 (talk) 19:15, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- To be included in Wikipedia, an organization must meet certain notability criteria (see WP:N for details). Youth League U15 has already been determined to be non-notable by Wikipedia standards (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youth League U15, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I-League Youth U15, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017–18 Youth League U15, etc.), so the topic is unsuitable for Wikipedia. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:55, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Than why are you not deleting another article called Youth League U18 This article is also similar to mine How can i get my article back? Abhishe78 (talk) 03:30, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- If there is an article comparable to the one that has been repeatedly deleted, then it should probably be deleted too. -- Ed (Edgar181) 10:06, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2018[edit]
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2018).
None
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Request for deletion[edit]
I need to request you that please delete the page User talk:Ram The Editor as the CSD g5 because it was created by Ram The Editor, who is a banned or blocked user and that user violated the ban or a block by creating User talk:Ram The Editor. Thank you. 122.162.150.232 (talk) 16:37, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- Considering that deletion of that page has already been declined by two different admins, I think this is something that would be best handled through Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:11, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Continuation of "Request for deletion"[edit]
That page (User talk:Ram The Editor) was created by a blocked or a banned user (Ram The Editor), so that page should be deleted as g5 because that user is violating a ban or a block. So please delete User talk:Ram The Editor as g5. 122.162.150.232 (talk) 17:26, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
I have also requested deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. I created Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Ram The Editor for requesting. I created it as a talk page because IP addresses can not create project pages. So please understand as a request be a "Wikipedia talk:" page. But I created Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Ram The Editor/GA1 by mistake as there is no GA1 at the page name. Please also delete Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Ram The Editor/GA1 as that page was created by mistake. You can also delete User talk:Ram The Editor from there. Thank you. 122.162.150.232 (talk) 17:54, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for creating the MFD. I deleted the page created in error, but it's best to defer to the MFD for the other page. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:47, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Dave Roller on Wikipedia[edit]
Attn: User talk:Edgar181
Thank your for your kind response Edgar181 to my concerns for Dave Roller's information that was suddenly deleted twice by User: Gonzofan2007 after being on Wikipedia for over 10+ years with no problem. Gonzofan2007 has now deleted Dave Roller's information for a third time after I posted my concerns in the Tea house (which was one the options given to communicate) and he added that he decided not to block me. There is no need to block me for I will NOT be adding anymore information on Dave Roller. It is too confusing as to what was wrong with his information that Gonzofan2007 would delete all of Dave Roller's information. And it is even more confusing as to what is needed to correct Dave Roller's information to conform to Gonzofan2007's standards or concerns. I did not respond to the reply from Gonzofan2007 since he deleted all of Dave Roller information instead of being informative enough to help correct whatever he felt was wrong.
I will inform Mr. Roller so he can contact his fan base to let them know the reason he is no longer on Wikipedia. It is VERY DISAPPOINTING to know that Wikipedia does not want truthful and informative information published. Makes me wonder what other informative information is withheld on others. But it makes me VERY SAD for Dave Roller that he will no longer be included.
I guess if he is ever on Wikipedia again the information about him will come from one of your writers that are less knowledgeable of his history. You mentioned that you had made a few changes to his information on Wikipedia. Thank you for your time in doing so but I never had the opportunity to read your corrections because Gonzofan2007 deleted everything. I don't know why anyone would want to add to information on Wikipedia if this is the way they are treated. I am so disappointed. And it is with great sadness that I have to tell Dave Roller to stop referring his fans to Wikipedia because his information is no longer featured.
Again, thanks for your kindness. Gonzofan2007 was not so kind and I will not be responding to him anymore. He is a Packer fan so perhaps he knows more about Dave Roller than Mr Roller knows about himself. I sure hope he is not targeting Mr. Roller because he played for the Vikings after being released from the Packers. I have seen many others on Wikipedia with similar formats as what was used for Dave Roller and deleted. So it makes me wonder what the true reason his information was deleted and labeled a stub.
User: Mmm1313
- Gonzofan2007 was absolutely correct to revert this unencyclopedic fan page version [1], and has done a more than credible job rewriting and sourcing the biography to meet the guidelines. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
User:GanonsBane[edit]
Hello. I need to let you know that user:GanonsBane is talking on her talk page about wanting to die. I am not sure how to handle this. CLCStudent (talk) 13:48, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- I'll handle it. Thanks for letting me know. For future reference, Wikipedia:Responding to threats of harm is the guidance to follow. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:49, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Changes to update[edit]
Hi - I do work at Portsmouth Grammar School, the page I made changes on. The changes I made were purely to give more up to date information than is currently on the page rather than for any other purpose. Most of the page detail currently is very out of date, though strangely the name of our Head has been updated and she only started here this summer. If you can advise on how I can request updates that'd be great. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EML 100 (talk • contribs) 13:12, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- I reverted the changes you made to the article because they were unacceptably promotional (and apparently copied from the school's website). I left a set of helpful suggestions on your talk page on how to proceed, including the recommendation to use the article's talk page, Talk:Portsmouth Grammar School, to suggest changes to the article instead of making them yourself. If there are errors that need to be corrected or updates that should be made, another editor may then make the changes to the article based on your suggestions. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:29, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard[edit]
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Image of Pamabrom[edit]
Hello, the image is incorrect, one double bond is missing (in the pyrrole part). See https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/pamabrom BTW thank you for creating so many nice chemical images. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SMILESmaster (talk • contribs) 06:57, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- You're right. Thanks for catching the mistake and letting me know. I have now corrected the image. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Acetamiprid[edit]
Hi Edgar,
A new question for CAS number for this compound which have PubChem CID#213021, I found two numbers:
- CAS #135410-20-7
- CAS #160430-64-8
what's the difference between them? may be it's about the stereochemistry around the imine fonction ... Thanks for your help --Titou (talk) 14:41, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- CAS# 135410-20-7 is for acetamiprid with E geometry at the imine double bond
- CAS# 160430-64-8 is for acetamiprid with unspecified geometry at the imine double bond
- There does not appear to be a CAS# for the Z isomer. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2018[edit]
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2018).
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Ureas[edit]
Urea is only about urea. Ureas redirects to urea, but only 2-3 articles link to ureas. Somehow we need an article about the myriad ureas that are out there. So I was thinking of converting ureas to that collective article. If you have alternative ideas, please suggest them. --Smokefoot (talk) 15:47, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- I think that is a good idea. Chemical compounds that include a urea functional group are fairly common and Wikipedia should have an article about them, not just an article about urea itself. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Sock[edit]
You blocked Special:Contributions/Genyoucankimya as a sock; well Special:Contributions/OpikBenk has popped up doing the same nonsense. Could ya block em? Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:21, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Legal Threat[edit]
Hello there. I saw you active on AIV. You might want to have a look at this legal threat. — LeoFrank Talk 14:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. I have blocked the use for making a legal threat. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:43, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Cefiderocol drugbox[edit]
Thanks for your edits to the drugbox in the Cefiderocol article -- can I ask how did you do it so quickly? Do you have special tools for this, or did you do everything manually? -- The Anome (talk) 17:39, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- The data I added came from PubChem. It only took a moment to manually copy-and-paste it. The chemical structure image took a couple of minutes to manually draw. I used MarvinSketch. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:47, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for October 27[edit]
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Nitroethylene, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Dipole moment (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver).
(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 09:17, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks[edit]
Hi Edgar, many thanks for blocking that IP user.Satin17 (talk) 10:53, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Ok.Satin17 (talk) 14:26, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
A barnstar for you![edit]
- Thanks. I just happened to be around at the right time. :) -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:50, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Midazolam[edit]
Hi Edgar. I have never edited wiki before. I notice on the Midazolam page that it doesn't mention subcutaneous use in the top section. We use it daily in palliative care. Could you make a change? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.165.108 (talk) 01:46, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- It's already mentioned in the article. See the section Midazolam#End_of_life_care. Are there changes that you would suggest to that section? -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:27, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Høgni Mohr[edit]
I see that yesterday you blocked user Nudlavirkid for refusing to disclose a conflict of interest in relation to the article Høgni Mohr. After this happened, user Frayæ edited the article to make it acceptable to Wikipedia (although I think the subject's notability is questionable).
Now a new, single-purpose editor has appeared, user Rolsenl, and replaced much of the promotional text. I will leave you to decide what relationship, if any, this editor bears to Nudlavirkid. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:42, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- It certainly looks like block evasion to me, so I requested that a checkuser have a look: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nudlavirkid. I think it's is worthwhile to unambiguously confirm the socking when PR firms are involved. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:42, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – November 2018[edit]
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request for svg image[edit]
When you get a chance
Mfernflower (talk) 21:02, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
- I created a new .svg image and added it to the article. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:40, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
fr:Acétamidoglycine[edit]
Hi,
Could you find the CAS number for this compound, please ? see too File:Acetamidoglycine.png, this french article seems to have no interwiki link... --Titou (talk) 11:05, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think fr:Acétamidoglycine is incorrect. The CAS# for the compound in the image File:Acetamidoglycine.png is 30833-88-6. SciFinder shows almost no use of this compound in the chemical literature. It is not mentioned in Good's 1966 paper that introduces Good's buffers (doi:10.1021/bi00866a011). The compound in that paper is different: I have created the image File:Acetamidoglycine.svg for the correct structure. The CAS for this compound is 7365-83-5 and I created a Wikidata item for it (Q58209720). Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:39, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- very strange, If that you say is right then the PubChem page CID 23171574 is false too ?? Acetamidoglycine refers to (2-acetylhydrazinyl)acetic acid and the .svg you make refers to [(2-amino-2-oxoethyl)amino]acetic acid (verified with ChemSketch)--Titou (talk) 06:38, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- I read the Good's 1966 article doi:10.1021/bi00866a011 with Sci-Hub and table I gives IX : acetamidoglycine for H2NCOCH2N+H2CH2COO- then ... may be the word "acetamidoglycine" is too vague and corresponds to several compounds according to the insertion of which side of the acetamide on glycine : N side-acetamido-glycine (the french article) or C side-acetamido-glycine (Good's 1966 article)?? In any case, it seems to me that usually acetamido- refers to the N-side insertion that retains the methyl group and there is too then same couple of compounds with 3-acetamido-glycine= N-acétamido-glycine --Titou (talk) 07:10, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- I would not rely on PubChem for accurate information. It is known to have many errors and it is not well curated. I agree that there are two chemical compounds which are known and can be named as "acetamidoglycine". The French article is clearly intended to be about the one used as a buffer, so the box should be changed to match the data for File:Acetamidoglycine.svg (CAS#7365-83-5). The other chemical compound (File:Acetamidoglycine.png/CAS#30833-88-6) is not notable, in my opinion, and does not need to be written about on Wikipedia. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:05, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- okay, okay but on wp:fr, it's accepted that all chemical compound, no matter how insignificant, may have an article and in fact, it's 4 compounds that can be called acetamidoglycine... So we already have a nice article on the N side-2-acetamido-glycine which we must delete the reference Good's 1966 and remains to write one on the C-2-acetamido-glycine, fr:WP: NHP in french = WP:BB! cheers! --Titou (talk) 16:58, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- I create File:All acetamidoglycines.svg. In fact, there are 6 acetamidoglycines counting each compound of the enantiomeric pairs. Now, the problem is to find correct name for all. I already know that between the top and bottom two compounds it's 3-acetamido glycine or N-acetamidoglycine at the top (in contrary what I write above) and 2-acetamidoglycine at the bottom. I don't know a descriptor that indicates by which side a radical binds and I don't see any other way to discriminate each compound on a line keeping acetamidoglycine in the full name. Help ? I modified the fr article by deleting all references to Good's 1996 until I can rename it and transform the fr:Acétamidoglycine page into an homonymy page.--Titou (talk) 05:10, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- I would not rely on PubChem for accurate information. It is known to have many errors and it is not well curated. I agree that there are two chemical compounds which are known and can be named as "acetamidoglycine". The French article is clearly intended to be about the one used as a buffer, so the box should be changed to match the data for File:Acetamidoglycine.svg (CAS#7365-83-5). The other chemical compound (File:Acetamidoglycine.png/CAS#30833-88-6) is not notable, in my opinion, and does not need to be written about on Wikipedia. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:05, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Vandalism on page Survivor Series (2018)[edit]
I am currently witnessing Vandalism on the Survivor Series 2018 page. every time there is absolutely no reliable source I emailed them on there respective user pages, I keeped telling them to stop and they won't listen, Can You Protect the Page Fully please. Thanks ! :) TUB3900 (talk) 00:19, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I don't know enough about that topic to easily figure out which edits are good and which aren't. I suggest making a request at WP:RFPP where other admins who might be better able to help will see it. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 00:36, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
IP socking[edit]
171.33.200.84 is a sock of 77.102.245.28 – they've made very similar edits on multiple articles. Modernponderer (talk) 18:58, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- I have now blocked that IP. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:22, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
request to delete category I made by accident:[edit]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nitroarenes
Mfernflower (talk) 20:12, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Chromium acetate[edit]
Hey Edgar181, thanks for the category implementation that you put into the article! As you probably know, I created Chromium(III) acetate earlier today, and didn't include any linkage to the article anywhere else on wikipedia, and also hadn't yet created categories. How were you able to find the article then? Did you stumble on it on accident, or was there a tool you used, or... UtopianPoyzin (talk) 02:29, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- I occassionaly look at the page User:AlexNewArtBot/ChemistrySearchResult which lists new articles related to chemistry topics. Someone has set up an automatated program that searches new article creations and sorts them by topic areas. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:20, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- You can also use the new pages feed, if you're just interested in looking through new articles regardless of topic; that's how I came across it. Blythwood (talk) 20:50, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Epoxides[edit]
Ed, now I have myself slightly confused about nomenclature. If you have any advice, offer it. Epoxybutene or epoxybutane? Butene oxide follows ethylene oxide example. --Smokefoot (talk) 21:28, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, all those names are used, along with "butylene oxide". Other than "epoxybutene", which is amiguous with respect to compounds such as this, I think any of the others are fine. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:35, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Edit question[edit]
In this edit, you added some templates. I removed the prior edit as a copyright policy issue. I was tempted to simply restore your templates but now I'm wondering if they were motivated by the prior edit in which case they aren't necessary or other issues in which case they are needed. I'll leave the call up to you, but I have not restored the templates.
(I see this is moot as you have subsequently edited).--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:19, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- I restored the {{peacock}} template because I think it still applies after your revert. I added the COI template because of the obvious username connection of the editor you reverted, so I don't think that necessarily applies anymore (though considering the tone of the article, it may still be the product of editors with a COI, but I haven't looked closely). -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:32, 19 November 2018 (UTC)