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Administrators' newsletter – July 2018[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018).


Administrator changes

added PbsouthwoodTheSandDoctor
readded Gogo Dodo
removed AndrevanDougEVulaKaisaLTony FoxWilyD

Bureaucrat changes

removed AndrevanEVula

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about the deletion of drafts closed with a consensus to change the wording of WP:NMFD. Specifically, a draft that has been repeatedly resubmitted and declined at AfC without any substantial improvement may be deleted at MfD if consensus determines that it is unlikely to ever meet the requirements for mainspace and it otherwise meets one of the reasons for deletion outlined in the deletion policy.
  • A request for comment closed with a consensus that the {{promising draft}} template cannot be used to indefinitely prevent a WP:G13 speedy deletion nomination.

Technical news

  • Starting on July 9, the WMF Security team, Trust & Safety, and the broader technical community will be seeking input on an upcoming change that will restrict editing of site-wide JavaScript and CSS to a new technical administrators user group. Bureaucrats and stewards will be able to grant this right per a community-defined process. The intention is to reduce the number of accounts who can edit frontend code to those who actually need to, which in turn lessens the risk of malicious code being added that compromises the security and privacy of everyone who accesses Wikipedia. For more information, please review the FAQ.
  • Syntax highlighting has been graduated from a Beta feature on the English Wikipedia. To enable this feature, click the highlighter icon (Codemirror-icon.png) in your editing toolbar (or under the hamburger menu in the 2017 wikitext editor). This feature can help prevent you from making mistakes when editing complex templates.
  • IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in July (previously scheduled for June). This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.


  • Currently around 20% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 17% a year ago. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless if you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:22, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Coin Legs[edit]

Can you revoke this user's talk access. Thanks. Face-wink.svg Home Lander (talk) 14:41, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for reverting and letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:29, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Happy Adminship[edit]

Happy Adminship from the Birthday Committee
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Wishing Edgar181 a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!

-- Kpgjhpjm 03:24, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! It's hard to believe that it has been 12 years. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:21, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Silicic acid[edit]

The contents of silicic acid are pure conjecture. There are no valid citations for the existence of this acid. There is no published evidence for the existence of a substance with the formula Si(OH)4, named in the article as "orthosilicic acid".

You have removed the speedy deletion tag which I used because there is nothing to discuss regarding the current content. It is up to you to justify this and insert the deletion tag that you think is appropriate.

metasilicic acid and pyrosilicic acid are also non-existent and those pages should also be deleted.Petergans (talk) 08:36, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

I removed the speedy deletion tag from the article simply because the reason you presented for the deletion does not fall within any speedy deletion criteria. You are free to start a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion and to present your argument there. -- Ed (Edgar181) 10:47, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Only the tag is wrong. Please attach a valid tag so that this rubbish can be deleted. Petergans (talk) 12:47, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
From what I can discern, your concerns seem to be more about the accuracy of the current article content rather than a belief that Wikipedia should not have an article about the topic. If the article were to be nominated for deletion, I don't believe there is any chance at all that it will be deleted. However, if you wish to pursue it, the instructions at WP:AFD are fairly easy to follow. If you would like me to do it for you, I can do so using the rationale you entered in this edit. Or you can provide me with different text for the nomination, and then I'll start the AFD discussion based on that. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:01, 20 July 2018 (UTC)


Self-admitted as a banned user. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:20, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

I blocked the account. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:21, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:22, 21 July 2018 (UTC)


On User talk:Edgar181/Archive25#Books_and_Bytes:_The_Wikipedia_Library_Newsletter there are some tags that should be fixed like this (my bot can't edit your page). regards, -- GreenC 13:16, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Semiprotection of my talk archives probably isn't needed anymore, so I have unprotected that page. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:40, 21 July 2018 (UTC)


I fixed the image on the lythranidine page a while ago it has subsequently been reverted back to the incorrect structure. While you did not do this I was wondering if we can just delete the page? The information on it is completely incorrect and misleading for the reasons that I have identified in the talk section on the page.

```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bendysaur (talkcontribs) 23:36, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

@Bendysaur: The mistake in the image was mine and I have now fixed it. I agree with you that much of the article content is problematic so I have simply removed much it. Please feel free to edit the article as you see fit or let me know if there are additional issues. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:49, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

@Edgar181:, Thanks for clearing that up. I will edit the article when I get some time (I am writing a thesis at the moment). Bendysaur (talk) 23:35, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Bipolar disorder[edit]

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Bipolar disorder. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

New category[edit]

Considering the gargantuan size of the list and the fact that it's beginning to be a requirement even outside of the, US, do you think we should have a category for proposition 65 chemicals? It would save us a lot of editing. complainer 13:00, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think California Proposition 65 list of chemicals is unmanageable. The California government sometimes adds and removes items, but I think Wikipedia editors can keep up with that. I wouldn't object to also creating a category for substances on the list, but that might be redundant enough to not be worth the effort. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:57, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

More Vandalism on International cricket in 2018[edit]

I see you've blocked for vandalism on International cricket in 2018. However, there was another user, Sunil Shetty (contributions) that has also started vandalizing the same article.

Based on this edit by, wherein he replaces the lead with "SUNIL", and on the fact that and Sunil Shetty both vandalized International Cricket in 2018, with Sunil Shetty starting editing right after was blocked, I believe that and Sunil Shetty are the same individual, with Sunil Shetty being created specifically to avoid the block. Blackhole78 talk | contrib 00:52, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

I agree, it's obviously the same individual. I have now blocked the account. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:08, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Plant hormone/ brassinosteroids[edit]

Hi. I saw that you reverted an edit on plant hormone back to:

"Brassinosteroids are a class of polyhydroxysteroids, a group of plant growth regulators. Brassinosteroids have been recognized as a sixth class of plant hormones, which stimulate cell elongation and division, gravitropism, "

I have reverted your revert, because the previous edit was more up to date and correct:

Describing BRs as a sixth class of hormone was only really relevant when there were only 6 classes of plant hormone described (there are now many more). The statement that BR is the only steroid hormone in plants is notable given the predominance of steroid-based hormones in animals. Finally, BRs promote elongation in the areal tissue whilst inhibiting elongation in the roots, so "control" is more suitable. Scotanist (talk) 17:37, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

OK, that makes sense to me. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2018[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).


Administrator changes

added Sro23
readded KaisaLYmblanter

Guideline and policy news

  • After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
  • Following a request for comment, the WP:SISTER style guideline now states that in the mainspace, interwiki links to Wikinews should only be made as per the external links guideline. This generally means that within the body of an article, you should not link to Wikinews about a particular event that is only a part of the larger topic. Wikinews links in "external links" sections can be used where helpful, but not automatically if an equivalent article from a reliable news outlet could be linked in the same manner.

Technical news

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:31, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Give your feedback about changes to Special:Block[edit]


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Monument, Colorado[edit]

Hello. I would like to understand why you felt the need to ban me from the Monument town site. You assisted a known political operative. Are you affiliated with him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:285:4080:2641:5db9:eb25:c4b1:7704 (talkcontribs)

What a strange suggestion. On August 1, I protected the article Monument, Colorado from anonymous editing for three days because of persistent disruption and edit warring from multiple IP addresses. That's all there is to it. It didn't involve banning anyone or targeting any one specific editor or assisting any mysterious "known political operative". -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:11, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Monument, Colorado[edit]

Hi Edgar181, please keep an eye on this, it may require renewed protection. Thank you, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:41, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

I have semi-protected the article again. Everyone, please use the article's talk page to discuss potential changes to the article or problems with the article. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:09, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. Cheers, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:59, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

rajivness deletion[edit]

Hi Edgar181, how are you? Why was Rajivness page deleted? Please help. Thanks! Rajivness (talk) 17:28, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

I deleted User:Rajivness because it was part of your effort to advertise or promote a company called rsquare media on Wikipedia. Such promotion is inappropriate and not permitted. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:54, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Edgar, Appreciate your swift response. How is reporting facts and news considered promotion? Please explain. Thanks. Rajivness (talk) 19:27, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Facts and news can of course be used for promotion. Wikipedia is simply not the place for you to promote your business - there are other, better places for that. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:25, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

You work on Portuguese Wikipedia?[edit]

I see you have edits on the Portuguese Wikipedia.--Zakblade2000 (talk) 05:28, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't know the language or edit there beyond curating chemical structure images. I have edited on many different language Wikipedias, but only in regards to correcting or improving those images. -- Ed (Edgar181) 10:57, 16 August 2018 (UTC)