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Census templates

Joy. I guess we need a single one for the 2010 version. I do mean there's about 37k articles where someone needs to manually review and update the stats. The references aren't so much obsolete as out of date (an old 'as of' essentially). I have no idea how to even begin although it does seem like the 2010 data can be parsed out. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:37, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

It's important that we keep the 2000 census data, which is now historic. Ideally we would cover the demographics as far back as records are kept. The 2000 census data was uploaded by bot (Rambot), then a few years later I went through and improved the text substantially, though I was never completely satisfied. The 2010 data came out in about 2011/12 and I have had no involvement with that, so I'm not sure if has been used systematically, though I think not. It really needs automation, and unfortunately I am not currently allowed to edit using any tool other than "typing in the box," whatever that means. I can however do various scans and other jobs, though I have to present the results off-wiki. Meanwhile I chill and watch bits of the wiki fall apart.... All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:15, 29 June 2014 (UTC).

fyi, we had a hackathon at the Sunlight foundation, where some census people participated.[1] tried to work through an API > wikidata > infobox process. i hand added some information at http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1391, scraped from factfinder. [2]; if a motivated bot operator wanted to populate fields in wikidata, then we could link there, and not have to run bot in english (hint, hint). cheers, hope to see you at wikimania. 198.24.31.114 (talk) 23:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Historic Ferris Houses (in Mariemont, OH)

I just spent 2-3 hours researching and changing the entries for these two structures:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliphalet_Ferris_House
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Ferris_House

I found added a couple of sources for them (which is where I first learned of the two buildings). You were the last person to take an interest in these pages, so I wanted to both alert you to my recent edits and ask a key question.

Question: I am dying to know how you found this link from the Library of Congress: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/oh/oh0300/oh0340/data/oh0340data.pdf

There is more information in the parent directory, and many photos, including of the interior. I am too tired to link all the photos in or even refer to them. It was hard enough dealing with the varying build dates I found for the first building. I should go visit the building!

I am hoping there is a similar entry for the second building. Somewhere I got the date 1807 for the second building. I see that date comes up here:

http://aeqai.com/main/2014/03/the-eisele-gallery-of-fine-art-a-cincinnati-tradition/

I don't know if the National Register is incorrect. I was about to mention that it is now the Antique restoration business of Mr. Eisele, but like I said, I'm exhausted from the edits I already made...

Incidentally, the reason I was looking this all up is because I was dismayed that the Wikipedia Village of Mariemont has no history section at all! The Cincinnati page is horrible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Cincinnati. But the History of Cleveland is not too bad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Cleveland. I would love to help get the Cincinnati page up to speed, but don't even know where to begin. You'd think some historian from the area would take charge!

David Tornheim (talk) 08:44, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi David, I forget how I found that document, but search gives this similar directory for Joseph Ferris House. I was looking at a guy called Richard Henry Dana III that day, who was a classmate of James Russell Lowell. It is a shame more local historians don't get involved in Wikipedia, and, from the US, Civil War enthusiasts. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:16, 29 June 2014 (UTC).

• [3] may be useful if you are anywhere near Cincinnati and Hamilton County Public Library. For the "Historic Spots in Greater Cincinnati" article series. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC).
  14:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the quick response. I'll take a look. I did notice your talk entry on the 1st house saying:

It is not clear if this was Richard Henry Dana III, or another of a similar name. Rich Farmbrough, 17:02, 4 August 2012 (UTC).

I may try to resolve this question if I do more research on the two buildings and find anything conclusive. I wasn't sure where you found information that made this uncertain. Because they both have similar names, right? And both lived in Mariemont during the time of the additional work on the building?David Tornheim (talk) 18:45, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

If Richard the Third lived in Mariemont and he is a good candidate for the role, we have first name, last name and initial, location, date. Unfortunately we also have his son Richard Henry Dana IV, Richard Henry Dana V was born in 1912 so can probably be discounted. For a family tree see http://www.nps.gov/long/historyculture/upload/EED%20Finding%20Aid.pdf pages 20-23. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:40, 29 June 2014 (UTC).

Thanks for the updates on the Joseph Ferris house and adding the Historic Survey card like you did for the other Ferris building. I noticed that like the first building the Joseph Ferris house has different erection dates. The date on the card you supplied is 1820, as I believe was the date from NPS. However, the article I showed above says:

He chose an historic building in Fairfax built by Joseph Ferris in 1807 as his headquarters. Taking ten years to build it, Ferris chose the Greek and Federal revival architectural styles which remain today.

It's hard for me to tell which information is more reliable. The card sites as its source "an article of Frank Y. Grayson 'Historic Spots in Greater Cincinnati', which was published in the Cincinnati Times Star in 1933." I'm not sure whether it is better to give the competing sources like I did for the Eliphalet Ferris House, or trust that the professional surveyor did his work correctly and that new information has not been uncovered that gives a better date. Also, I'm not sure if the traditional erection date is the date building started or ended. If it is the date it was completed, the 1820 seems basically consistent. I'm on the fence about whether to add the other date to the main text, but I do plan to add the article which does talk about the building. David Tornheim (talk) 00:12, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #115

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Second UI designs are now up for comments
  • Discussion about predecessor and successor timelines
• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Wikidata intro and QA, June 29th in Paris
  • Open Hack Day, 5th and 6th of July, London
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• Development
  • Redirects are moving slow because they touch so much of our and the core code base, but they are coming closer!
  • Final touches on the monolingual data type and UI
  • Fixed some smaller but nasty bugs in the UI like not being able to change only the rank
  • Finally improved the most confusing error messages and hints you get to read when using the Wikibase client or repo
  • The Wikibase DataModel JavaScript component (which moved to it’s own repository) reached version 0.2.0
  • Continued working on the QueryEngine component (the foundation for queries)
• Monthly Tasks
  • Fix a format or content violation for the World Register of Marine Species identifier (P850) property
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help fix these items which has been flagged using Wikidata - The Game.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
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Read the full report · Unsubscribe · John F. Lewis 11:49, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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Can you filter a abusive edit summary? I will link here. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:47, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll have a look, better to email me though. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:49, 29 June 2014 (UTC).

Sent. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 22:50, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

The Great American Wiknic and other events in July

I am pleased to announce our fourth annual picnic, the Great American Wiknic, will take place at Meridian Hill Park in Washington, D.C. on Sunday, July 13 from 1 to 5 PM (rain date: July 20). We will be hanging out by the statue of Dante Alighieri, a statue that was donated to the park in 1921 as a tribute to Italian Americans. Read more about the statue on Wikipedia. If you would like to sign up for the picnic, you can do so here. When signing up, say what you’re going to bring!

July will also feature the second annual Great American Wiknic in Frederick, Maryland. This year’s Frederick picnic will take place on Sunday, July 6 at Baker Park. Sign up here for the Frederick picnic.

What else is going on in July? We have the American Chemical Society Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, July 12, dedicated to notable chemists, and our monthly WikiSalon on Wednesday, July 16.

We hope to see you at our upcoming events!

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Listas

Now trying to clear "biograhies without listas parameter backlog", [4] is correct? It gets pretty tricky whenever article is about a music band. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 08:43, 2 July 2014 (UTC)