Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Queen

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Index Page

" * " indicates single

If theres anything wrong feel free to fix it and leave a comment

See http://queen.musichall.cz/ for loads of info and album/single covers.

Comments

Template

I added the template to all songs listed on all albums listed on the template. Billvoltage 20:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Great, Thanks - Mtmtmt 09:13, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

It is indeed great work, Billvoltage. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 14:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, but I wish to help more, is there any other way I can?? Billvoltage 02:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject The Beatles

Hi, I'm just dropping by to say good luck with your Project. WikiProject The Beatles has been running for a while now and we have a good infrastructure in place, so if you need any help or advice come visit us at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles. Feel free to copy any of our pages but if you do please credit where you got it from in the edit summary :) Good luck. --kingboyk 04:57, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

It seems to me the structure has been copied directly off that project… With a bad result, I may add; the page seems cluttered here, having a lot of unnecessary sections. This talk page is also quite cluttered – it'd be good if someone cleaned it up a bit. Jon Harald Søby 11:08, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

It is possible that the structure was copied from the standard project. It brings in a lot of stuff. We at WP:Beatles initially hid a lot of it as we didn't need it (just comment it out) but then brought some back as we found uses for it. Anyway, I'm excited to see another band project get underway, Queen is a fave of mine (not as high as Genesis or The Beatles, mind you) and I wish you all good success and happy editing. If there is anything I can do to help please ask. In particular if you decide to do article classification I'd be happy to generate your initial article table for you. ++Lar: t/c 12:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Looks more like a default WikiProject, yes. I don't see enough members or involvement right now to be honest, I think you really need 10 or 15 members to make a Project work... --kingboyk 02:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

May I be bold and offer a few words of unsolicited advice? Take it or leave it :)

• I think you're wrong to have some sort of requirement for membership. I'd suggest removing it, and take all the help you can get!
• Songs which weren't singles or otherwise notable are better covered in album articles. There is no need to have a blue link for every song Queen ever recorded. (I hope to put this into practice at the Beatles Project, so we're kinda shooting in opposite directions here). See WP:SONG for notability issues, and note that an album track by Dido is currently doing badly at WP:AFD. The logic is quite simple: it's better to have a thorough high quality article on an album, than it is to have 10 stubs. Of course, if the song is notable and can be fleshed out into at least a Good Article then go for it, I'd just urge caution in your approach that every song should have an article.

Hope I haven't overstepped the mark and that my suggestions are of use. --kingboyk 02:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC) P.S. I was at the Freddie tribute in 1992 and can be glimpsed in the film :)

Thanks for your comment - I fully agree! Candyfloss 14:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree with you here up to a certain extent. The reason is because on a personal level, I feel that all songs recorded by VERY notable groups and artists should be have their own articles on Wikipedia. But I also understand that this is against the official guideline of WP:SONG. Well, I hope that this would change in the future. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 14:20, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

An article isn't a badge of honour. I'm thinking here of article quality primarily. Hey, I have every Queen album on CD (the wall-mounted boxset), and I certainly consider them to be one of the more notable bands. If there's a glowing article to be written on every song, go for it. My experience from looking at many Queen and Beatles articles, however, is that most songs articles are crap, because there's not much to say about a generic album track. I'm suggesting it would be a better use of Project time to clean up what you have than to make creating stubs a priority (and indeed, when I wrote, a requirement of membership). --kingboyk 16:00, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

*I think you're wrong to have some sort of requirement for membership. I'd suggest removing it, and take all the help you can get!

I have removed that and am trying to work somthing out.

Mtmtmt 01:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Article project box

This box: {{Queen WikiProject}}... has a Queen crest in it. I beleive that image is fair use only, and cannot be used except in article space to illustrate directly relevant things. You may want to seek a different image (the WP:Beatles project had to do so as well) Hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 15:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Song Infoboxes

I added a song infobox to the "Doing All Right" article. I didn't use the Song Infobox template because I wanted to use the same colors as the boxes on the A Night at the Opera song articles. I also added a small box to the "Keep Yourself Alive" article with links to the previous and next songs in the album, so one could browse through all songs from an album without having to return each time to the album article. Please tell me if this looks OK, and if it is, I'll proceed on adding boxes to the other song articles. --Kristbg 15:19, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. You may want to see Wikipedia:Queen for a list of songs and albums. - Mtmtmt 15:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, all song articles have songboxes and album listing infoboxes now. I'm a little unsure if I should add album listing infoboxes for tracks from Live at Wembley '86, Queen on Fire - Live at the Bowl, Return of the Champions, and from the compilations. I think it would end up cluttering the article, especially in songs like "Bohemian Rhapsody", which is present in all of these albums.

I noted that a lot of song articles (particularly those from the earlier albums) don't have a lot of info (actually, aside from the infobox and template, they just say "XXX is a song by Queen, it is the Xth song from the X side of XXX album."). Those articles usually get deleted in no time (I think some were deleted already, actually...)

Some songs from Made In Heaven were a little tricky. "Heaven for Everyone" and "Too Much Love Will Kill You" now have singleboxes, but they don't look so good, since I had to add info from both the solo release and the Queen release...

I guess the priority concerning the song articles right now is to expand the ones which have little info, and to clean up the ones with too much fancruft...

I'll try to work on the album articles and the band members now. --Kristbg 14:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

A merge template was put by another editor on Fight From The Inside and on Sleeping On The Sidewalk. If those articles don't get any more content, they will get merged to the album pages (and, I suspect, more will follow). --Kristbg 02:09, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

And My Melancholy Blues. --Kristbg 21:08, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome letter?

What is this welcome letter, and may I distribute it to the two members that have yet to recieve it (one of whom is me)? Billvoltage 22:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes you may distribute it, sorry about that. I'm working on an official one Template:Queen WikiProject welcome . - Mtmtmt 05:15, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Now What?

Now that Queen (band) is a good article what should we do? Any ideas? Should we focus on making Queen (band) a featured article or another article a good article - Mtmtmt 11:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I believe that we should do both of these, we should make all four of the members (Freddie, Brian, John, and Roger) good articles, and we should try to get Queen (band) as a featured article... Billvoltage 01:36, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I think we should all focus on turning one of the band members' articles into a good article. The most obvious choice would be Freddie's, of course. --Kristbg 01:55, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree, I think we should work on the band members first and then the albums. Queen (band) doesn't need that much more work to become a featured article. - Mtmtmt

God Save The Queen

Candyfloss is right, we shouldn't have a separate article for Queen's cover of "God Save The Queen". I added instead a small infobox to the article on the British anthem (I don't think it'll stay there for long, though). --Kristbg 02:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Stubs

We shouldn't have three or four stub categories in a single article. It's unnecessary it clutters up an article which is already short. If we already know it's a Queen song, there's no need to tell that it's a song or that it's a rock song.

Just trying to help. --Kristbg 21:39, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

On behalf of the Stub sorting project please DO NOT remove the extra templates! Not everyone who is interested in cleaning up song stubs does so on a group-by-group basis. A lot of editors work on songs of a particular style or of a particular era. As such it is very important to leave the by-decade and by-genre stub templates still attached to these articles. Grutness...wha? 11:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Could we keep just the {{1970s-rock-song-stub}} template then? Then we would have a single template on the article, and it would be enough for the editors to identify it. --Kristbg 12:20, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I will be adding the fallowing to all 1970's Queen song articles that are incomplete.

{{Queen-song-stub}}

{{Rock-song-stub}}

{{1970s-rock-song-stub}}

And {{single-stub}} to singles.

This way more people can find them easer. - Mtmtmt 13:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Queen Main Page and Freddie

There are two on-going problems with the two articles stated above; with the first, there is a history problem, and the second has a referencing problem. I think that we should work on getting both of these fixed, however the history problem is, seemingly, about to be over with. Whast do you think? Billvoltage 22:40, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Request

As per a request on the Freddie Mercury talk page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Freddie_Mercury#Appearance ) I am asking us to add pictures that show "the change in hair, dress, build, the mustache, and the alteration of his image in general." What do you think? Billvoltage 21:32, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Article on Mack

I created the stub, assuming that Mack the Producer is really Josh MacRae (the drummer for The Cross, of course, not the scottish folk singer or any of those fucking guys popping up on Google). I got this information from AMG. It would be great if someone could contribute to the stub, because I can't find any credible information on this guy. Thanks a Lot and Good Luck! Fenrir2000 08:03, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

WHY do you create a stub if you "can't find any credible information on this guy"??? Josh Macrae and Mack are different persons who have nothing to do with each other. - Candyfloss 10:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)