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Evidence presented by Poeticbent

Rename this case to Eastern European disputes

Out of respect for ArbCom invaluable time, I support my assertion only by edits and diffs provided already by the involved parties in their initial statements even though the stream of supporting evidence is growing. Most recently, the majority of them (Piotrus, M.K, Irpen, Dr. Dan, Lysy, Halibutt) engaged in a highly politicized dispute over the content of WWII Operation Wilno. However, their edit summaries remained cordial throughout in spite of numerous edit wars. [2] User:M.K made his first Main Space edit by flagging the article with disputed {{NPOV-title}} tag only after the article was already 6,244 characters long, 3 months after it appeared on the front page of Wikipedia in section "Did You Know?", and after a long period of thoughtful and prudent editing by Piotrus who created the article. Corresponding remarks made by User:M.K on Talk page were casual at best. Both users provided reference for their conflicting points of view. There was no bad faith on either side, only bouts of frustration resulting from two different perspectives on one historical event.

The example proves that the request for arbitration against Piotrus was little more than an attempt at scaring off or tiring out an editor who's used to defending his sources. However, the issues are broader than that and should be addressed by arbitrators as such. The stream of requests for arbitration will continue until ArbCom finds a way of easing the situation before a new generation of editors arises. Please rename this case and use it for future reference to our joint benefit. --Poeticbent  talk  03:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Evidence presented by user:M.K

First of all, I want to thank ArbCom members who accepted and willing to solve this case regarding contributor Piotrus behavior. I will present expanded evidence regarding this contributor’s behavior.

Removal or referenced information

These misconducts are one of the main characteristics of user:Piotrus, who engage removal or referenced information, which is not suits his POV: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] small example of this behavior pattern.

Fueling revert wars

Such tendentious and one sided edits, usually accompanied with WP:OR and strong POV, fueling revert wars (present an history sections):[18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24]

Accompanied with such edit summaries as “you are joking? please stop restoring Soviet propaganda” [25], [26] “preposterous claim” and by making his famous NPOV after which referenced text usually disappear [27] As I noted in the main ArbCom case he was blocked for WP:3RR [28], instead of acknowledging his mistakes he tried blame bad faith contributor, and if contributor who reported him, indeed had bad faith and the block was unjustified there had to be issued an technical block to denounce previous one at least. There is no such, so we can see that he breached the WP:3RR rule, which is installed to prevent revert wars.

I also initiated another case regarding his reverts [29] and as I understand the case did not resulted any actions due to demonstrated self revert. But that is troubling to me is that in his comment he tried to show that he was conducted some sort of established contributor's “vandalism” removal , and on reviewing 3RR board admin talk page he quite unethical accused involved contributors of “Holocaust revisionism” [30]. I hope that ArbCom members will familiarized themselves with these claims and my filled 3RR case.

Violating WP:LIVING

In the initial case I posted some evidence regarding this problem and now I elaborate on this issue, as it is very important not only to particular involved parties but and Wikipedia general, as such violations leaves Wikipedia vulnerable. Violation of this policy directly involves Habilitated Doctor of Humanities Kazimieras Garšva, one of his investigation fields is crimes carried out by Polish insurgents, so you may understand that Polish public do not like him much (say at least).

Violations started then Piotrus started to placing doubtful and badly attributed sources [31] , WP:LIVING clearly states “Be very firm about high quality references, particularly about details of personal lives. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just highly questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space.” Inserting some none English information from tourism portal, badly labeling it as Lithuanian embassy site [32] hardly can be called “high quality references”. But the problems did not end, soon after another related article was created with quite clear WP:POINT intentions [33] (observe edit summary) problems with references there exported and with particular living person and others directly connected article, but now problems became even more evident, presented “sources” not only did no direct concur statements in article but also there were contradicting, seeing such misuse of sources and “referenced” quotations I took necessary steps authorized by WP:LIVING policy, which states “Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just highly questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion” [34] [35] [36] as problems continued I asked for more contributors to check usage of citations and references [37] as the major claims of this article there pointing to Polish sources. But in vain all my work there reverted citation request as well [38] by Piotrus. Who even tried to argue that WP:Living policy is not applied in other articles which deals with living persons life facts, while policy suggest contrary – “This policy applies equally to biographies of living persons and to biographical material about living persons in other articles.” Even more policy allows to removed false claims from talk pages (!). Such basic information should now all admins. And more Piotrus argued that everything is verified [39] After some time he personally found flaws in his attribution of claims with references [40]. Misuse of sources and quotations are present [41] after some time as well, of course if proper cite and reference check was completed such problems would be solved. Even now, both creator of this article and admin Piotrus, starting to invent new things how references should labeled and used, instead finding high quality and neutral ones [42]. This is one side of problem, another one that he started to mock from the living person Mr. Garšva [43] even more labeling various tags to contributors who challenges his claims [44] (“It saddens me to see that we have editors who support point of views of extremist organizations”) [45] (“Definite proof we have Vilnija fans among us”) etc. Yet another example of tendentious Piotrus’s edits – article in question heavily rely on Polish newspapers, while non Polish newspapers cant be used in other articles [46].

Recruiting support for proper articles versions?

I have serious thoughts regarding some articles that some editors there brought to scene only to revert “proper” version of articles preferred by Piotrus. My findings of this issue covered here [47] then one particular contributor user: LUCPOL, closely associated with Piotrus, reverts articles to the Piotrus versions. The feelings of not tolerated behavior surges then noticing that LUCPOL just reverts “proper version” without contributions on talk or in main space nor before nor after reverts, and in these cases Piotrus already in dispute with others. Assuming good faith I would like to ask Piotrus – do you ever asked or suggested directly or indirectly to User: LUCPOL that he should revert some articles’ versions in which you there in dispute?

UPDATE I will reply to Prokonsul Piotrus’ presentation. Sadly presentation failed to address specific concerns and shows signs of unwillingness for constructive solution and have a quite a rude pattern. However my response I will start from “Piotrus response to other side's claims” first point.

Contributor conducted some sort of content analysis, if I remember ArbCom investigation pattern, committee do not investigate a content, but if administrator Piotrus thinks that the specific area should be discussed I have obligation to present contra argumentation of his claims. First, if I not mistaken most of “all” sources about which Piotrus talks, are conducted by polish representatives; and remembering Piotrus response (preposterous claim) to the presented data we can assume that Polish representatives do not speak much about these specific crimes carried out by Polish criminals. And if I remembering NOV policy right all conflicting scholarly points should be presented including United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, which specifically mentions Polish Jew killers, as well as Genocide and Resistance Research Centre of Lithuania.

Following Piotrus remarks “even M.K.'s primary source in its English summary mentions only Lithuanian ethnicity in YB” ArbCom members could witness particular contributors’ distortion of sources and original research. As this source’s English summary do not talk about YB (Ypatingasis būrys) (you would not find any of these names in the summary) at all. That P.P. did – confused completely different structures such as SD; German security police, Lietuvių saugumo policija (Lithuanian security police) (these 3 organizations are presented in source English summary); all these mentioned structures are not the same as Ypatingasisi būrys (aka Sonderkommando). I brought to ArbCom members this misused of sources fact as it is not the isolated incident, bad attribution and misused information being used by Piotrus to justify page titles [48] [49] ending with living persons matters (see evidence of my comments above).

Staying with the first point, only going to part “Note that M.K. has also "removed referenced information" himself”. After reading this part of Piotrus response it became clear to me that administrator Piotrus do not know WP:LIVING policy at all. Such “evidences” of my removal of referenced information stands no ground, because the information provided in source (such as these presented by Piotrus) do not concur the articles text at all. And different contributors also noted the same [50] , as well as neutral mediator [51]. I long time ago tried to explain that see sources are not sufficient , but yet again I was accused of “legal” defense of this organization. And related policies clearly suggests that misused and misquoted information should be removed immediately and without any discussion.

Now going to the second point. Let facts speak for themselves about revert campaigns:

[52] [53] [54] [55] [56] [57] [58] [59] [60] [61] a “small” revert campaign, on only one (!) article. [62] [63] [64] and yet another 3RR warning . Please note I took here only the small part of systematical reverts conducted during his own ArbCom case time frame, in which one of listed problems is his revert campaigns. And I do not want to go in other a bit older cases as it is the same pattern as noted. Probably these revert campaigns also due to “suspicious” contributors actions as wel...

Staying in the same point No. 2 just going to different location specifically part “such strong bad faith claims based on such”, personally I do fail to understand that presented sources ([65]; [66]; [67]) should suggest, as I think that removal of valid information should be addressed on talk as this [68], then do this considered as P.P. notes “trotted out”? (maybe Piotrus remembered his own trolling?)Analyzing this; some how P.P, forgot to note that on this page he accused me of harassment [69] (contributor on whose talk page I made my remarks demonstrated ill behavior; if it be any need I will present a spectrum of evidence on this issue including this, accusation of faking the history)

Moving to other point - edit summaries - lets see that administrator is doing with his edit summaries [70] [71] [72] [73] [74] [75] Last two examples are very much saying; as contributor to whom these messages there addressed quite clearly suggested to Piotrus that such practice of stalking should end, even more contributor asked an advice from administrator on trolling action of an admin and was suggested to proceed with mediation with Piotrus.

Going to point 3, completely not relevant to presented evidence by me, as there is no answer why we mocked living person in question or why he prevented of smooth cite check or why he continued mock from contributors working in this field.

Going to point 4, it would be great if Piotrus could stated straight, if he (in presented) cases asked contributors to revert “proper” article versions or not. The newest development also strengthen listed concerns [76]

Moving to new section - “For ArbCom to investigate and comment on.”. - First point. I will not comment on Piotrus contributions relating other contributors “classification” as I see it as very rude as well as highly inappropriate to ArbCom case.

But I will comment starting from “He has disrupted Poland-related…”. Crimes committed by Polish criminals during WWII in small countries and specific regions are described very limited or non existent in English sources, so we have to really on local historians, official institutions; one of the sources Armija Krajova Lietuvoje ISBN 9986-577-02-0, which Piotrus dislikes and labels various rude comments on it without providing any academic data, despite was asked to do so (I once again ask him to present his academic sources which denounce specific claims of presented book). But going back to specific claims about “His POV has been proven wrong by a MedCab case” first I did not participated in MedCab case at all, as it was closed few moth ago before me [77] and as never was listed as the disputed parties of the provided case by Piotrus. Even more I was explained that it over [78] , so I asked mediator about specific question [79] and received and answer that extremist label which used Piotrus should be removed and of course Piotrus denounced mediators suggestions [80]. So that we have: a) I did not participated in MedCabal case (contrary to Piotrus) b) Former case mediator challenged Piotrus core claims about label “extremist”. So it is up to you to consider factual accuracy about claim “is POV has been proven wrong by a MedCab case”. Going to claim : “ignored by WPMIHIST reviewers…” once again incorrect as one of the involved contributors became a new moderator… It saddens me very much that misinformation is used by Piotrus even during arbitration process.

Currently skipping point 2 and going to point 3 about allegedly harassment. I will start from specific diffs, presented by P.P. First, this one P.P. claims it as “incivil comments and accusations”. On article Ponary massacre act of some sort vandalism occurred , which was reverted by Lysy after few minutes [81]; while comparing two versions (before vandalism and restored version Lysy) huge parts of article vanished, so I see nothing wrong by asking [82] that full text should be restored, rather then “proper” version. Simple.

Moving forward this one , P.P. once again forgot to draw a full light to this development, so lets take a look. One contributor started to mocking from Lithuanian language again (he did this continues times) [83] ; was condemned by other contributor [84]. As Piotrus and Halibut are friends I think that Piotrus could use more to influence his friend to stop such continues mocking from state language; such practice of mocking was criticized during Halibutt’s RfC, even more was suggested that similar “conducts” is vandalism . And mocking from state is so intense that valuable contributors had to leave this project earlier [85] (it is good that after several months without any edits he reconsidered and come back). So summarizing, then did ethnic slurs are tolerated or considered as valuable contribution (do ethnic slurs considered a contribution at all?); I think it is not valuable contribution at all, probably Piotrus has different opinion.

Next. this one then administrator comes to your talk page and threatens and makes intimidation to block you you should act, especially then accusations complete baseless and bad faith driven. Ironically Piotrus himself suggested to start DR process…

Next going to long part of diffs which starting “which should fall under wikistalking” if users who listed there DGG, Connolley, Irpen, etc thinks that I somehow attacked them let they speak here. In these cases Piotrus just picked my answers, but forgot to add his own, lets correct this error [86] and should be stated that Piotrus like to make falls accusations denounced such claims by neutral contributor .

Going to the Piotrus part “he is harassing other editors, ex.” complete misuse of information I will take several random examples to demonstrate this. Lets start from this. Halibutt came to my talk page and started urging filling a complain against him [87]. Around a week if, I not mistaken, spammed my talk page with rude remarks such as my anti-Brasilian hatred etc . Ironically all info was already provided on articles’ talk page, and this remark was urging to review it again. But as time showed I did not help, as Halibutt reappear to talk page with yet another rude comment accusing that I “do not have the courage and honour”; that I lie . Ant let me remind that WP:CIV concludes that accusation of lies is serious violation of specific policy; and yes I think that my response was proper to this accusation [88] (somehow Piotrus thinks that it is an harassment conducted my me; just wondering that he would do if someone will call him anti-Brasilian hatred, without courage and honor). But this particular story did not ended; Halibutt removed this warning by edit summary revert troll. Seeing such developments and that particular contributor just conducting provocations I removed highly offensive remark [89] with summary in which I pointed example [90] . Now Piotrus took these two diffs out of context and presented them as my “harassment” “evidence”.

If we take this random example, it as well would not hold under deeper scrutiny. The question surrounding very sensitive issue – moving articles names – but this case (Jogaila article; to understand situation complexity maybe committee members would like to read some talk pages of this article) is even more special as the voting procedures there conducted around seven times (!), marked by extensive sockpupetism; in one of these votes Halibutt initiated campaign of support by flaming the messages: [91] [92] [93] As this is WP:POINT, such behavior could develop to uncontrolled situation, and trying to avoid such things I sought an advice from more experienced editor (who participated in these vote campaigns from beginning to the end). General discussion (concerning both Halibutt and Piotrus too) were address on WP:ANI [94]. As you may witness, continues Piotrus accusations are improper here as well.

And lets go to concluding remarks. As Piotrus made remarks about specific contributors departure, but he once again forgot to mentioned that the same contributor accused another contributor of criminal act [95] , let me remind that Death threat is serious accusation and probably unique in wikipedia in general.

So that do we have – Piotrus diffs which taken from context (usually from very old talk pages) and usually accompanied with inaccurate information, everything mixed and presented as "evidence" of harassment. But if we analyze such “contributions” as falls accusations of vandalism, another “harassment” [96] intimidation of blocks threatening with sanctions, [97] mocking from state tragedies baiting contributors accusing of Holocaust revisionism we will see true and current misbehavior of administrator Piotrus. List can be filled and filled with the bad conducts, his threats and warnings there dismissed by others [98]. even now a neutral contributor suggest that Piotrus’ ArbCom presentation is a problem holding threats. And indeed rude pattern of Piotrus responses continues from his install ArbCom message.

My update is long, but is absolutely necessary to demonstrate Piotrus incorrect information usage and spread; it is also draws more light to his misconducts. M.K. 11:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I intend to continue presenting evidence in upcoming days. M.K. 13:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Evidence presented by Piotrus

I do not envy the task ArbCom has taken, albeit I think it was inevitable sooner or later; some users - parties in this issue, myself included - have shown that they are unable to resolve their conflict without a third party enforcable ruling. So, here we are.

Please note that at the moment I am posting this only one other user (M.K.) has presented his evidence (agaist me and several other Polish users), with a note "I intend to continue presenting evidence in upcoming days"); I have asked him to finish it twice ([99], [100]) so far with no effect. Please bear in mind that if M.K. updates his section or other users post their evidence my reply below may be no longer comprehensive; I however see no way to avoid it given that the party which filled the ArbCom request in the first place had 2 weeks to finish presenting their evidence. I am therefore assuming they have done so and present my reply below. I will do my best to keep this a consise summary of 1) my response to the other side's claims presented in evidence so far and 2) my claims about the other side. I will reply to current evidence in sections with a single example discussed in detail if feasible; otherwise this would be way over lenght recommended by ArbCom. If ArbCom would like me to expand on anything and address any edit/series of edits in detail, please let me know.

Piotrus response to other side's claims

1. "Removal of referenced information": of course I occasionally remove information, including referenced. I never do it lightly - but it is perfectly acceptable behaviour per Wikipedia:Verifiability ("Editors adding new material should cite a reliable source, or it may be challenged or removed by any editor") and related policies (ex.WP:NPOV#Undue_weight).

   For example taking the first diff presented by M.K. I'd like to point to NPOV:UW: all sources (8) in Ypatingasis būrys agree it was a Lithuanian unit; very few (2) mention in passing that among its ~100 members there were several of other ethnicity/pre-war citenzship (even M.K.'s primary source in its English summary mentions only Lithuanian ethnicity in YB). Non-Lithuanian participation in YB is notable enough to mention in the YB article, but it should not be used to argue in articles where YB crimes are discussed that those crimes were commited by 'Lithuanians, Russians and Poles'.

   Note that M.K. has also "removed referenced information" himself ([101], [102], [103], [104]) which I think was much more reliable, relevant and neutral (from Cas Mudde/Routledge and Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs).

2. Fueling revert wars - a good example of accusation not backed by anything but bad faith interpretation of my edits. He who has never reverted on Wikipedia, please throw a stone first :) But seriously, the real problem here is a user who is using a year-old 3RR case filled by a suspicious user and a 'no action' report filled by himself to argue that his opponent is a revert warrior. Such strong bad faith claims based on such flimsy evidence and trotted out on many discussion/talk pages ([105], [106], [107]) and edit summaries ([108], [109], [110]) to discredit me and others is what is really disruptive. Note also I am commonly starting talk page discussions to avoid edit warring, and initate DR procedures seeking input from neutral sides (ex. [111], [112], [113]). I also start DR mediations like Wikipedia:WikiProject Lithuania/Conflict resolution or help with guidelines to end many revert wars (WP:NCGN). The only DR procedures initatied by MK are to complain about my or others behaviour when we don't agree with his POV (and see how helpful he is in such discussions)...
3. Violating WP:LIVING. For starters, it was ME who reported KG page to WP:BLP to gather input from neutral editors and BLP experts. User:DGG offered help and the Kazimieras Garšva page has been stable since January 28 with a compromise that the community (me included) find apparently quite acceptable. Vilnija page is also rather stable this year. The only worrying behaviour on those article's were M.K.'s repeated attempts to remove reliable sources critical of this organization and that person (see example from point 1).
4. "Recruiting support for proper articles versions" - bad faith speculations and allegations. I helped LUCPOL with several issues, including translating his statements in a dispute resolution, I also contribute to Silesia articles (he founded Wikipedia:WikiProject Silesia. Apparently in return he occasionally looks at some of the current disputes I am involved in and supports my edits. Excuse me if some editors want to help me instead of drag me through DR :)

Piotrus claims about other side

For ArbCom to investigate and comment on.

1. Extreme unmoderated POV. Briefly. We all are POVed. I have admited on many occasions I have a Polish POV. Nonetheless I believe my almost 20 Featured Articles, dozens of Good Articles, and scores of DYKs and such (see here) show that I can overcome my POV and produce high-quality FA NPOV work including that on controversial subjects like Katyn massacre or German invasion of Poland where I evidently can cooperate with Russian/German/etc. editors (please see also statement by Featured Articles Director, User:Raul654, at my RfC, and such outside party's comments in this ArbCom as Hillock65's, Zscout370's and Biophys'). Most of my critics here are either 1) not productive content editors (Jadger, Dr. Dan...) whose input is mostly limited to inserting POVed statements, revert warring about them and harassment on talk or 2) content editors who have a very strong POV of their own on which they refuse to compromise; they believe (or act like) their POV is NPOV.

   M.K. belongs to that second group and has demonstrated such extreme POV on many cases. He has disrupted Poland-related articles on several cases (see Vilnija/KG issue above, for another example consider his continued POV edits to Armia Krajowa using Vilnija sources to portay AK as a criminal organization culminating in failed attempt to delist it from GA list). His POV has been proven wrong by a MedCab case, ignored by WPMIHIST reviewers, by GA reviewers (twice...) - which of course only means he is using that article as an example of a place where Polish editors wrong him in revert wars and so on...

2. Incivility. Incivility has been shown by all sides in this conflit, occasionally even by myself (which I deeply regret and I believe I have apologized whenever I was asked for). This is unfortunate, but with one exception I don't believe behaviour of any user with regard to WP:CIV merits ArbCom attention at this moment. The mentioned exception is based on my belief that one user has been extremnly uncivil, significantly contributing to worsening the relations between many editors (primarly Polish and Lithuanian). The editor in question is User:Dr. Dan, already once blocked for incivility. It is my belief that - intentionally or not - that user has been baiting both sides, frustrating many editors and talk page discussions with worst-style Usenet flaming. Lenghty list of his misconduct is presented on a separate section below.
3. Bad faith, slander and harassment. Per my statement at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Piotrus#Statement_by_Piotrus, I believe M.K. violates Wikipedia:Harassment with regard to my person (and likely that of several other editors, like Halibutt or Lysy): nitpicking good-faith edits, repeated personal attacks (false and bad-faithed claims of our wrongdoing - this ArbCom and his statements in my RfC are perfect examples), discussion space incivil comments and accusations (ex. [114], [115], [116]), user space harassment (on my talk page, ex. [117] and [118], as well as on others' users talk (which should fall under wikistalking), ex.[119], [120] [121], [122], [123] (note I am not the only victim, he is harassing other editors, ex. [124], [125], [126], [127], [128], [129]... causing some of them to limit their involvement in this project - ex. see statement by Halibutt in this ArbCom, note that Halibutt's loss as an active editor (formerly 156 most active editor) is a big loss to this project; M.K. has yet to make it to that list...). It doesn't matter to him that he receives little support in RfC, his mediations get rejected - he keeps repeating the same accusations over and over again until his opponents are so disgusted with this harassment that they leave the project (or respective discussions and articles). Please note that M.K. is often helped and encouraged in such behaviour by Dr. Dan (evidence below).

Piotrus evidence against Dr. Dan

Because of frequency of disruption, this is a large amount of evidence, I am therefore putting it in its own section for ease of reference. For chronological order, please start at the bottom.

May'07

• but that doesn't stop him (also here...)
• Dr. Dan's post was deemed "unhelpful" and removed even by one of the users who tend to take his sides in debates (Irpen)
• accusing editors of forcing bias on English Wikipedia
• the hypocritical biased remarks that often emenate from this group of my friends
• inflaming an until-then civil discussion
• edit summary on talk: "I'm not interested in a hostile personal exchange here replete with rude or snide remarks"

April'07

• (Wikipedia is) a place where someone can twist and turn information (sourced from totalitarian newspaper articles, and skewed statistics), to satisfy some fantastic fantasy, and then award barnstars to each other
• when asked to be less inflammatory in his comments, another sarcastic remark...
• implying revisionism PA
• accusation of 'nationalistic POV pushing'
• accuses his opponents of "mentality bordering on childish vandalism"
• accused his opponents of "Whistling Dixie!" in text and edit summary. "Whistling Dixie" is a slang expression meaning "[engaging] in unrealistically rosy fantasizing"
• accusing other editor of baiting in text and message summary
• accusing others of idiocy

March'07

• flaming and editing others' posts
• one of Dr. Dan's peculiar habits is copyedit other user's post in talk; this sometimes led to (accidental?) confusion, ex. [130], [131],. Note the user was asked not to do so on several occasions, ex. User_talk:Dr._Dan/Archive_3#Soviet_invasion_talk,
• It was you who called me a liar first, later questiones the users sanity...
• this and several previous posts at this page accuse another editor of lying when that editor noted Dr. Dan insulted him in the past (here Dr. Dan accused parents of that editor of being member of communist party (in Poland's context it may be very offensive to some). Note Dr. Dan instead of apologizing denies it was offensive and basically calls claims that he might have been offensive lies and such. Quote: "I remember the entire conversation (...) and the rest of the garbage that you are lying about. (...) I never insulted your parents. That's a lie." Oh, edit summary begins 'Lies'... (also note [this comment about the same accusation before)
• In addition to the general offensive tone of the post, AND an accusation of vandalism, that user, which - repeat - has never started or significantly expanded an aritcle, is accusing the 63 and 169 most active editors of "Quit playing games with history and propagandizing a Polish nationalistic skewed interpretation of these events in the article, and thereby cheapening the WP project." Edit summary: "Quit cheapening the WP project!"
• calling others contributions "unbalanced propaganda piece" (please note that user has never created or significantly expanded an article)
• vandalism accusations in edit summary again
• edit summary: "Please stop vandalism with intent to confuse or propagandize"
• are you a liar (something that you recently called me) hallucinating between interludes of POV pushing and peppering Wikipedia with propaganda?
• in edit summary accuse other editor of 'weasalising' despite his term being obviously more POVed
• accuse another editor of vandalising in edit summary
• PA: " that particular editor has a history of manipulating WP much worse than OR" and his reply to yet another warning about NPA
• when asked to stop personal attacks on that page, he claims the other party is guilty of it (without diffs)
• uncivil comment other editor
• baiting
• rv changes which gained consensus on talk with accusation of vandalism
• clear flaming: off-topic discussion post speculating about one editors sympathies for anti-semitic and pro-nazi views, also here
• invoking the infamous WP:DICK
• are you trying out for an audition for a comedy act?
• refering to people complaining about his incivility as 'whining'
• lumping together "Polish editors" and critiquing their contributions to Wikipedia
• reffering to actions of Polish editors on Wikipedia as Polish propaganda
• Nota about being incivil on his talk page

Feb:

• It would give me great pleasure to not play games with you, and to ignore you completely. (...) You're incapable of answering simple questions, and are discourteous as well.
• Another warning about being incivil on his talk page
• Refusal to participate in a mediation

January and earlier:

• RFI from Jan'07 that resulted in a 24h block for incivility with examples
• Since I like you, I won't ask you if you are too lazy to look in a dictionary, or suggest that you might not have decent libaries where you live.
• Let me warn you back. You are not special. You are not a Proconsul. You are not the Grand Inquisitor. You are not a minor politruk out of the Katowice woj.'s former local PZPR. You are forever threating and warning people as if you have some unique privilege to do so. (...). Loosen your żupan collar and quit making veiled threats.
• refers to a question about above post being incivil as 'an attempt to censor me'. Further, accusses his opponents of 'adding, reverting, or deleting information', 'a series of veiled threats and warnings to myself and others, with an almost gloating and smug-like quality to his having engineered my 24 hour block'. Refers to an editor 'His inability to work with people without this constant need to censor and block people' and 'Would it be uncivil to ask him to grow up?'

Piotrus request to the ArbCom

It is my belief that M.K. should be warned to stop harassment of me and other editors (like Halibutt and Lysy) under a threat of a block, and put on probation from Poland-related articles. Majority of his positive contributions are in the field of Lithuanian architecture and history, unrelated to Poland, it would be a loss to see him go but his disruption of Poland-related articles needs to be put to an end. Some form of mentorship and adoption would be also highly advisable. Considering the neglible positivie content contributions coming from Dr. Dan at all, and vast amount of disruption, I feel that a probation from any Poland-related articles and particulary talk pages is highly advisable and the least strong solution ArbCom should utilize in regard to this editor. Finally, several users (M.K., Jadger, Dr. Dan, Irpen) should be cautioned that they are not neutral and reminded of how Wiki is supposed to work.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  01:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Evidence presented by Lysy

M.K's editing habits

I was reluctant to get involved in the evidence phase but since my name was mentioned by both Piotrus and M.K in the context of M.K harassing me, I would like to state that I don't really mind it, as there were only few occurrences. What bothers me is however is M.K's relatively high level of aggression against other editors, which demonstrates itself in the examples I'm providing below. My feeling is that M.K focuses too much on warring against other editors instead of creating or improving the contents. This attitude can result in building a bad fight and personal conflict atmosphere instead of collaboration.

M.K assumes bad faith

• M.K suggested (diff) that my revert of his Vilnius University edit was coordinated with Piotrus. This was not true and I took it as an undeserved accusation of bad faith. I don't think I ever did anything to earn the bad faith reputation in M.K's eyes.

M.K falsely accuses of personal attack

• Following my edit M.K posted a "Stop personal attacks" message in my talk page (diff). As I did not see any personal attack in my edit, I had asked him to explain this. In wake of any reasonable explanation, I assumed it was simply an attempt to intimidate me with the false accusation (additionally using wording such as "you have been warned").

Evidence presented by User:Novickas (involved party)

A short list of grievances addressing issues of concision, personal experience, the expressed desire on the part of arbitrators to view only recent incidents, and personal time constraints.

Tendentious editing

• There are some loopholes in WP guidance that PP has exploited. I hope these will be closed soon.

• • A rule in geographic naming conventions [132] explicitly states that one must "Always look at search results, don't just count them". This rule is NOT explicitly stated in the personal naming section. This loophole was used by PP to rename an existing article and put it up as a DYK, although the Google hit research was, to use a relatively charitable interpretation, of low quality; see Talk:Józef_Łukaszewicz#Citation_of_64_English-language_Google_hits_on_J.C3.B3zef_.C5.81ukaszewicz.

• • The rules in event-naming offer a loophole as well: although a consensus has been reached on referring to places in the former PL-LT region by their Polish names, the names-of-events policy states that one may call events by a commonly used name. To this end he has created two DYK articles that refer to Vilnius in the 20th century as Wilno: Battle of Wilno (1939) and Operation Wilno - both of these articles created considerable conflict. A brief look at the talk pages shows that these are not commonly used names.

• • In both of the above cases, PP has shown no initiative in resolving the issues; the articles remain as they were.

• The Wikipedia:Tendentious_editing article states that "Warning others to assume good faith is something which should be done with great care, if at all". PP has invoked the good faith assumption on his own behalf at least twice recently to my knowledge: "My dear Lokyz, I find it very unfortunate that you'd interpret my good faith gift in such a manner" User_talk:Lokyz#Re:_Please_stop_stalking_me and "please, please assume good faith, and that I am trying to help us all here" Wikipedia:WikiProject Lithuania/Conflict resolution.

• What category does this fall into? PP mis-stated WP policy when he removed a sourced citation with the edit comment that the source is "quite POVed" [133]. From a newbie one could overlook it. The source, as mentioned in [134], is not only published but frequently cited.

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