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Swimming Bishapod of every day !

"Where did the lilypads go?" :-( bishapod splash! 10:05, 23 July 2007 (UTC).

Hehe, in and out the lilypads, splash splash splash! ! Nice doggie come swim too! bishapod splash! 16:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC).

Lilypads for the Bishapod!

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Programming wish

Hi Bishonen! General question -- can you point me to the techies who recently allowed us more review on our watchlist? I have a "wish", as my watchlist grows and grows, to be able to sort the list by topic. I would like to be able to call up list A, B, or C - and review activity in those specific areas. Does this sound like others might find it useful too? If you know anyone who is doing programming in this area, please let me know. WBardwin 23:51, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, W. You're supposed to request stuff like that at Wikipedia:Bugzilla. But... I don't quite know how to put this. Perhaps I've just been unlucky. But the fact is, I've taken away the impression that the developers like to give us nifty new features that they come up with themselves... but don't so much like fulfilling requests. At least, any requests that I've made (that's maybe like, uh, one), or that I know of that friends/wikiacquaintances have made, have just, well, been sucked into the Bugzilla and never heard of again. You never get a reply, or learn why your request isn't being entertained. At least that's my experience. It's been a while since I tried, so the nerds may have gotten more gracious, I don't know. Summary: apply at Bugzilla, but don't get your hopes up. Bishonen | talk 23:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC).

Thanks for the note -- no hurry about my stuff, usually anyway. I agree that "Bugzilla's" reputation is less than steller. I think I've put in two requests -- apparently into the ozone. I put the note above on your page, on User:JRM's (who I've not seen lately) talk and on Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). I thought if I spread the idea around, someone might notice. And I know people read your talk page, if only for a smile! As I approach 600 pages on my watch (I know --only 600!), I find I would just really like to look at topics in isolation. For example, lately I've started working on articles on the Canadian/American Fur trade, 1820-1840, and some more distantly related articles as well. If I could sort those into a minor watchlist, I could keep track of what is happening to my most recent efforts. I thought that it would be useful for articles relating to any Wiki-project people belong to as well. Do you personally see a use for this feature? Best.....WBardwin 02:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

People are actually talking about it on the Village pump! Some of the ideas move much further along than mine -- but....... We shall see. WBardwin 05:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. There is really no hurry, just me trying to tweek the status quo as usual. Too bad about JRM. I always found him pleasant, helpful and knowledgable. But, sadly and increasingly, that seems to be the type of editor and administrator that ends up leaving Wikipedia. You have to wonder why. I hope something doesn't push you over the edge, Bishonen. But, then, you can always call up Bishzilla!! Best.............WBardwin 01:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah... well, I believe JRM left because the wiki time expenditure was messing up RL for him. That was my impression. He kept the faith. I'm the opposite, I have time (currently) but little faith. I don't know if you've noticed how much the project is tipping over right now, from the Indians to the Chiefs, as it were. Well, I dunno, it probably always seemed that way. But I'm disillusioned, yes. Illustrations: this so-called Featured article review of one of my FAs. And this more recent encounter with the Biography Assessment Drive. Not so much fun anymore. I stop putting my stuff on FAC, I protest, many people protest, Geogre protests all the time, but I don't think any of us are getting through. Bishonen | talk 15:39, 21 July 2007 (UTC).

I'm sorry these creatures are hitting you hard. I find you to be an excellent writer and enjoy "your" articles, even if I know nothing about the topic. I've certainly noticed a more restrictive, argumentative environment since my extended absence at the turn of the year. Several things, including article assessment, frantic footnoting and increasingly authoritative templates, are getting under my skin as well. As a member of the biography project, I just placed a comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography/Assessment (Project is Subjective and Non-productive), but as the assessment trend is Wikipedia wide............? I presume that everyone is frantic to prove that Wikipedia is accurate and reliable in response to our periodic negative media exposure. But all of these efforts, IMO, are swinging far wide of the mark. I suspect there are many more moderate editors that would agree. How to find them is another matter. Hang in there! WBardwin 19:19, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Ice cream

A chocolate ice cream for one of our nicest administrators

Hi, Bishonen, I promised the monster that I would give you an ice cream if she returned my ice cream maker to me, and she very obligingly did so, damaging my hair rather badly in the process. (Thank goodness I have a hair straightener!) So, I'm keeping my promise, and offer you a chocolate ice cream. And while I'm here, thank you for all the good work you do around here. Although we don't seem to edit the same articles, I see a lot of the posts you make at admin noticeboards and at user talk pages which are on my watchlist. Cheers. ElinorD (talk) 01:03, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Update: Graphic situation for Bishapod

Hi, Miranda! I wasn't thinking of a banner so much. More an animated version of the portrait on his page. I would love to have an animation where the 'pod moves his tail and flippers. If the movements can suggest he's swimming, that would be even better.

I mean, more like Bunchograpes' animated Bishzillas. They aren't banners, you know? Here are the animated Bishzillas:

And here's the sadly stationary Bishapod:

Please make me move, Miranda! Let me roam free!

Bishonen | talk 16:03, 7 July 2007 (UTC).

Okay, I will do this later. Miranda 21:51, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, bish. I can't do this. :-( Miranda 03:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Try making your request at Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab. I am sure that they would like to help. Miranda 21:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Here's a piss poor effort to be struggling on with. He can't even swim properly, his tail goes one way and his feet go another. Yomangani^talk 00:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Yay! Miranda 00:28, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Her jaw and gills need to open and close. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel 07:57, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Chocolate sprinkles with that? Yomangani^talk 10:45, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Er... very nice, Yomangani. Thank you. Only... the poddie looks like he'd cross the Channel in about ten minutes with that incredibly forceful leg/flipper paddling. And looks a bit like a torpedo... Do you think you could, uh, impart a slightly gentler movement? Something like Bishzilla's scary blinking? (I'll take the sprinkles, yes, please.) Bishonen | talk 12:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC).

Now approaching the limit of time scheduled for the animation of Bishapod from my life:

• 16 July 2007 up to 10am: Animate fishapods, 10-2pm: Find cure for cancer 2pm: Coffee...I won't bore you with the rest of the day, it's mostly Nobel prize winning stuff and skateboarding. Yomangani^talk 13:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
• That's some very nice work. (Can you find a cure for coffee?) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

  Cure for coffee? But... coffee is the cure, for many things. "Cure for coffee" doesn't make sense. Confused puppy 14:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Nice nice Yomangani! Poddie swim! Now Yo-ma-ma animate proto-tetrapod-teddy stuffed toys, let roam free? Then we all have icecram lady's icecream! bishapod splash! 16:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC).

[Bishzilla gives great roar of despair, all little users whirl away in resulting tornados] DOWN PEST! Little Yomangani please excuse 'Zilla for creating El Maximo Stupido Sock! Go away Bishapod! ['Zilla slouches off to find out if there's any way to nuke existing pest account.] bishzilla _ROARR!! 16:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC).

Bad Faith?

Hi Bishonen. I never accused User:DreamGuy of bad faith. Did you read the entry in AN3RR? I merely wanted to point out that he violated the 3RR (he is also a repeat offender of the rule) in two separate articles which I made edits to. I didn't remove any other User:DreamGuy's comments except for the ones in the entry itself, where they tried to compromise the evidence. I was quite sure that the situation was clearly apparent. On the other hand, you might want to look at my entries on their talk page (which they apparently blanked) and their entries on mine. See the difference? Could anything else be done? Thanks for your help. Best, aNubiSIII ^{(T / C)} 13:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

What.. ? You certainly did. "remove vandalism by User:DreamGuy in their attempt to compromise information in entry " isn't an accusation of bad faith? [1]? See Wikipedia:Vandalism: "Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. " Just don't throw the word around, please, especially not in edit summaries, where it can't be removed. Read Wikipedia:No personal attacks and Wikipedia:Vandalism#What vandalism is not. As for "attempt to compromise information in entry "... do I have to spell it out? Read WP:3RR too, and you'll see that the 3RR rule is counted per article—you can't add up reverts to different articles.

Well, yes, I see the difference. DreamGuy is bluff and gruff and frequently rude, and that's regrettable. At the same time I'm not sure I'd prefer to get the kind of passive aggressive "advice" that you post on his page, especially after I'd asked you to stop. A matter of taste. As for DreamGuy blanking your posts from his page, no, nothing can be done about that, he's entitled to do it. How about you simply stop posting there? That would make everybody happy, it seems to me. He has asked you not to post, and you don't like the results of posting. Also, while I understand that your intentions are good, please make sure you avoid userspace harassment. Regards, Bishonen | talk 14:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC).

Biography Assessment Drive

I am sorry to hear you had a poor experience with the Biography Assessment Drive, and in lieu of your comments, input would be appreciated here for dealing with articles that have "limited" knowledge so that they get a different, if not, fairer consideration when it comes to assessment. --Ozgod 15:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

(Cross-posted from my own talk page.) Hi Bishonen. I've addressed the issues over on the Bio talk page. Your articles have come into the midst of two terrible forces in current WikiProject Biography work: The (very objective) Charybdis of WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive, and the (very subjective) Scylla of the debate on what to do about the hated 11 Easy Steps. Charybdis has no time to be polite in assessing your work and see how you feel about it while Driving through more than 300,000 badly sorted bios. Scylla, meanwhile, is picking at the "Easy Steps" concept, and trying to figure out how to teach utterly uninitiated people how to make proper biographies. You should take neither of these things personally. Your biographies are well-written and researched, but there isn't room for a more elite system of assessment on Wikipedia, just room for better articles. Cheers, Yamara 16:05, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

"We're doing things that suck, but we can't stop, because otherwise we wouldn't be doing them." Genius. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 19:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Human civilization in a nutshell! And yet, life still defeats entropy, so far. -- Yamara 22:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Good heavens! Do you work in a DMV? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Alf wonders what Deserted medieval villages have to do with the price of fish(apods)

Smile

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Thanks

Thanks, Bishonen. I appreciate that that was a considerable effort on your part and thank for doing it and doing it so well.

I was going to clarify in my evidence section that Anynobody is now Anyeverybody and provide some helpful links as below but it would probably be more helpful if that was in your evidence area so people do not have to skip about (tra-la-la).

Anyeverybody (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Anynobody (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Or

Anyeverybody (talk · contribs · logs)

Anynobody (talk · contribs · logs)

Thanks again --Justanother 19:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I suppose so. I kept having to go to the redirect to get the older contributions, and only about an ångström of the redirect link was visible under the image, so it would perhaps help. Also it would stop people from getting confused about when Anynobody started to edit. Done. Bishonen | talk 21:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC).

Misunderstanding?

Reading your evidence I couldn't help but notice you said that Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Justanother was uncertified. It really was certified: diff which is the main reason why I've felt deleting it was an error this entire time. Honestly if it had not been certified, I would have chalked it up to my inexperience and moved on.

If you have felt this since March that it wasn't, then our basic disagreement is based on a misunderstanding. I'm not saying you have to change your evidence, if you really think I've been screwing up then please keep most of it posted. In case this has been a huge misunderstanding, the golden rule (do unto others etc.) seems to apply. If I were in your shoes I'd like a chance to strike/remove the point about the RFC being uncertified before said editor posts direct evidence of my error.

To be clear, I'm not trying to talk you into changing your opinion nor do I expect anything from you. I don't enjoy pointing out mistakes, or possibly causing embarrassment which is why I'm posting this. Anynobody 23:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

As the diffs in my evidence show, many knowledgeable admins and experienced users pointed out your misunderstanding of the RfC process and the 48-hour rule, even after I myself gave up trying to explain it to you. (That includes Daniel Bryant, the guy who moved the RfC to "approved.") But you always knew better. Feel free to go down that road yet again, Anynobody, but you won't be doing yourself any favor. Bishonen | talk 10:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC).

You've actually never explained how the 48 hour rule applies when it was approved in just under 3 hours, are you starting the 48 hours from when Smee first came to you for help?
Listed: 03:49, 8 March 2007
Approved: 06:50, 8 March 2007.
Daniel Bryant didn't explain it to me either, he gave up after you left a note on his talk page, diff, diff.

It's not that I claim to know better than anyone, the problem I have is that the reasons you cited for deleting it (insufficient attempt for two editors to discuss, and the 48 hour rule) don't make sense; Smee and myself did try to resolve the dispute before going the RfC route and the RfC I posted was uncertified for 2 hours and 59 minutes. Anynobody 20:57, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I've explained amply and repeatedly; so have others; so does this. Do you recollect my last remark to you on this page in June? The one where I request you not to post on this page any more?Here it is. I accepted your previous post, because it seemed sort of fair that you'd want to comment on my evidence. But that doesn't mean I'm going to be drawn into arguing with you. No, no... been there...[starts to tear out her hair.] Don't post on my page any more, please. Bishonen | talk 21:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC).

additional posts reverted (per above)

Peace.Lsi john 12:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Very cool

I see you have set aside part of your page to showcase my images...how cool is that!...not sure they are good enough to get so much attention though, but certainly appreciated. I made some adjustments to my page there, uploaded some more and will add more as I go through what I have.--MONGO 13:19, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Love the landscapes and flowers, love the lilypads! Bishonen | talk 14:36, 21 July 2007 (UTC).

Waiting for Bishzilla

Can I please put a userbox on Bishapod's page that says, "Waiting for Bishzilla, Bishzilla will be arriving on (tomorrow's date)?" Please? Miranda 23:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Heheheh. What a good idea. :-) Bishonen | talk 23:43, 22 July 2007 (UTC).

 Done Miranda 02:50, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Pod has such fine little boxen ! Bishonen | talk 10:10, 23 July 2007 (UTC).

AWW!! That chipmunk is so CUTE! Miranda 03:36, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Hillary Clinton hygiene issues

Your input on Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_July_21#Ward_Churchill_misconduct_issues is welcome. Am I in left field? Nandesuka 11:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Re "RFAR Piotrus"

I've replied on my talk page. Paul August ☎ 18:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Issues with WP:AGF?

Please don't take it the wrong way, but I really find that some of your statements display your lack of good faith. Why would you call someone condescending over as little as doubting ones judgment in choice of words when a simple point to the policy would have worked just as well without the attack like undertone? I really don't understand your attitude and I wish I could...--Alexia Death 20:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

P.S: Sorry for not bringing my questions here before, instead of taking them up in the AfD. Im not attacking you, just trying to understand--Alexia Death 20:29, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Spot Master Bates

If you don't know Stephen Duck, you maybe should. He was Robert Burns before Robert Burns, but they made a gentleman of him, and I found Leslie Stephens's own biography of him still hanging about in 2004. See, though, if you can spot the truly unfortunate name in the biography. (Poor lady.) Geogre 13:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

"I pronounce it Byg, if you please." --Justanother 14:43, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

"Not An Elk, but Anne Elk, which is to say an Elk named Anne," and not a Big Duck, either. :-) Utgard Loki 15:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, at least it was Stephen Duck, not Patrick Gass' granddad. --Justanother 21:41, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

You found it, but note that his first was was Ann Duck. Geogre 04:29, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Guess I'm Uncivil too!

Well, I've now been accused of being uncivil because I disagree with the frantic footnote brigade! What a useful intimidation tactic! I should probably post the achievement on my talk page. However, this may be a way to get other more moderate souls involved in a discussion. If you, and others reading this page, would like to chime in, the issue came up on Talk:Apache and continues with my response to User talk:Corvus coronoides:Your "accusation". It may be futile, but I've always liked tilting at windmills. Best.........WBardwin 19:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Wanna tilt at windmills? Say that you are a Scientologist and try to edit Scientology-series articles to conform to core policies here. That is the Master's Series of Quixotic Editing. --Justanother 20:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Confess your sins and repent, (and find a good mentor for 3 months) and all will be forgiven. But you simply must stop your unreasonable demands that your opposition actually follow policy/guidelines. That's simply an outlandish and incivil demand. Peace.Lsi john 21:28, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks like an old acquaintance of yours is reading this page, W.[2] Pity he didn't focus a bit more on the matter of fact, though (=the inline cites). Bishonen | talk 22:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC).

Save this goat!

File:Goat.gif

someone wants to delete one of my goats (the one above in fact), what can we do, how do we write a fair use rationale. I have just removed the warning template as a start that should fox them for a couple of days. Giano 18:25, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Good evening Giano, Bishonen, 'las & 'pods tips hat exactly what is it the image is showing, is it a poster, a donations packet that gets posted through your door or what. I could do a thingy for it if I knew that and from whence it came.--Alf ^melmac 20:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Err ... I hate to be a party pooper, but we can't use fair use images in user space. Not even to illustrate an appeal to write a fair use justification for that fair use image. :-{ --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 20:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Erm what about an image of an appeal about needing fair use image justification? :p --Alf ^melmac 20:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

That said, you write a fair use rationale like this: Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline I'm not at all sure this image will qualify, unfortunately. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 20:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Poop no more, not here at least Anon, and we shall have the image back, this is a thing that was posted through my door in W8 (that is a part of London for the benefit of those across the pond) It is all a very sad story - and you Anon should have more sympathy for the starving millions whose plight has been made worse by being sent goats that are now eating what little greenery they enjoyed. Giano 20:53, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Sued by Christian Aid - no. In trouble with people who go around enforcing the fair use guidelines - yes. Betacommand, Abu badali, those sorts. But I guess I'll let you deal with that, I've said my piece. I'm not generally one of the rule enforcers, my connection is more usually being one of those that drops fair-use text onto questioned images. This particular one is tough, because it isn't really discussed in the article in question. Best of luck to you. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 21:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• If Betacommand wants another run in with me he is welcome to try, I have not had the pleasure of Mr Badali, in fact I have never heard of him. So I'm not hugely concerned. Now more to the point how do we save these unfortunate goats, the Christians and the starving millions all in one big swoop. I cannot beleive that using a Christian Aid promotion to describe the work of Christian Aid can be against anyone's principles - even Mr Badali's. Giano 21:06, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

As chairman of the Bipartisan Free Range Goat League, I object to this so-called "Fair Use" of goats. These people treat them like animals! That's hardly fair. Friday (talk) 21:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I agree, and no where in that re-cycling does it mention the obvious - or are all of the starving millions vegetarians? In which case the goats eating all the greenery will be even less beneficial. Giano 21:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Dream Guy

Anyway, the real reason I dropped in was to mention that User:DreamGuy seems to be in trouble again. WP:ANI#User:DreamGuy Want to check it out? Or not - I know you're not his mother, but I wanted to notify you and give you the chance to help out if you wanted. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 20:32, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Mouse. I think I give up, it's looking kind of hopeless. :-( Maybe I'll feel differently tomorrow. It's very late here. Bishonen | talk 23:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC).

It seems to be the same old accusations by the same people who start up an ANI thread every few weeks and go nowhere. Most of them can't pull things together to stop acting like people irrationally out for blood to get taken seriously. Although of course it doesn't stop them from rushing off to take their edit wars to fresh new articles. DreamGuy 06:52, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, though, one thing would be nice...User:Dicklyon (and some others too, but mostly Dicklyon) insists upon putting harassing comments on my talk page over and over and over despite being told he was not allowed to post there and even after another admin (the bad one I had asked you for help with in the past, User:Arthur Rubin, who abused his position to try to prevail in edit wars and you and some others warned) told him I was right (as well as other people on the ANI thread) that posting to my talk page is harassment when it's clearly done with those intents in mind. It'd be nice if you could let him know that this is serious and that he can't post there. DreamGuy 21:29, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I certainly will. Writing it now. Bishonen | talk 22:35, 28 July 2007 (UTC).

I don't get it. Why is DreamGuy saying "same people who start up an ANI thread every few weeks" in reference to me? The only thing I've ever done with him before is to report his article destruction as vandalism. And why does he think my comments on his talk page are harassing? He doesn't even read them, apparently. Hopefully you will. I don't recall anyone saying he was right, so if you figure out what he is referring to, do let me know. Is it true that I should not talk to him via his talk page when I have something to say? And what is your relationship in support of him? Dicklyon 23:32, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

My "relationship in support"? Excuse me? I'm going to AGF that you didn't mean that quite the way it sounds. Meanwhile, I too think your comments on his talk page are harassing. Jumping in with this sarcastic comment in a discussion you haven't been involved in is mere trolling, IMO. Obviously your comment "to Clpo 13" was really aimed at inflaming DreamGuy (or why post a comment to another editor on his page?). And don't put back stuff on his page that he removes. This included a warning template from IPSOS which was totally unsuitable for posting on a long-time contributor in the first place. I would have removed it too, if I'd been him. It's not for you to restore stuff "to give another chance to read our comments"—when he removes something it's taken as proof presumptive that he has read it (even if he says he hasn't). If I were you, I would oblige him and leave him alone on his page. Think about it: have you honestly seen any good effects that those types of comments you make to him are having? So far? Bishonen | talk 23:51, 28 July 2007 (UTC).

My question was sincere. I'm just wondering why AnonEMouse and DreamGuy are asking you to intercede, and wondering if there's some history that I should know about. If there's not, just say so. And yes, I got sarcastic on that one; but I was NOT uninvolved in that interaction. I'll take your point that nothing good is likely to come of me trying to talk there. Dicklyon 00:15, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

(inindent) Personally, I have a high level of respect for Bishonen, and have seen several times when she has been able to save DreamGuy from self destruction. That doesn't necessarily mean I think he's right or you're wrong, it's not a zero sum game. I'm less interested in who "wins" and who "loses" and more in keeping people rather than driving them away. I've been in a small conflict or two with DreamGuy myself, so I didn't think I'm the best person to intervene. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 00:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Smile

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Kitty

When I saw this, I was reminded of Kitty. Maybe when El_C gets back, someone should put a disclaimer which reads: "not to be confused with Oscar the Cat." :-P Happy editing. Miranda 00:03, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Dissociative identity disorder

If you can, you may want to watch this article. Someone (User:Standardname) has been making major edits for a week or so (see page history on 500 eidts per page, it's a sea of their edits), and I tried to follow them best I could. Other than a couple minor things I fixed along the way they seemed alright, but then today anything and everything about the diagnosis being controversial was removed, the edit comments said that it was not controversial because the DSM said it was real (well, yeah, it said it was real this whole time and was controversial, and in the past DSM said homosexuality was a disorder, etc., so obviously listing there doesn't mean it's not a controversial diagnosis), along with some edits that seemed to go way beyond POV-pushing to just unintelligible. I reverted back to an old version (just the edits today that gutted the controversy section, not this person's other edits), and left a message on their talk page, to which they responded that their intent to revert back to their version. DreamGuy 23:11, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, DreamGuy. This new editor obviously doesn't have a grasp of our policies and practices yet. Considering this, and the overall frankness of their agenda, how about you drop a line on User:Shell Kinney? Meanwhile, I've posted a note on Standardname's talkpage. Bishonen | talk 23:58, 27 July 2007 (UTC).

Hrm. Missed the spamming bit. Trying to find what that was all about and will give her a heads up. Thanks. DreamGuy 06:56, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

You might be able to make a judment here

Hi, Bishonen. I've just seen Special:Contributions/81.178.224.84. I don't know much about the case, but I did follow the ArbCom case a little bit, and I think Worldtraveller scrambled his password. If that's the case, he wouldn't be able to make deletion requests while logged on. I think it's quite natural that an admin who sees an anon putting deletion requests on a whole pile of pages would use rollback, but this particular case may be genuine. I think you were friendly with him, so you might be able to make a judgment as to whether or not those edits really did come from him. Cheers. ElinorD (talk) 13:35, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

See also User_talk:Kukini#Requests_for_deletion. ElinorD (talk) 13:36, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for stepping in on this, y'all. I don't want to be reverting in error...and this may very well be a legit case. --Kukini ^{hablame aqui} 13:43, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Please see my comment on Kukini's talk. Regards, Newyorkbrad 14:18, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Deletions

Hej Bish, thanks for the note. Yes, this lot was what I was hoping to have deleted. I listed the redirects at WP:RFD - the listing is still there but Kukini reverted the addition of rfd tags on the redirects themselves thinking it might be a vandal. Hej då - 81.178.224.84 17:10, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Done. Man, talk about cross-namespace redirects—I came >this< close to deleting large tracts of the Signpost itself. A pretty pickle that would have been. World... ? This was a really, really sad job.  :-( Bishonen | talk 18:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC).

What is going on here that I don't know about? Giano 19:59, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

OK don't worry I tracked it down for myself - yet another highly respected member of the team bites the dust. Does anyone care <sigh> Giano 20:10, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

User:DreamGuy

And him telling me to read WP:DICK the first time I ever made a comment to him isn't trolling? He does this regularly to users in the first comment he ever makes to them. IPSOS (talk) 01:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)