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Mediation 4

You can go to this page, and talk about it. Dreamy ^§ 19:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Responded to your question there. Dreamy ^§ 23:05, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Martin Meehan

Might be best if you keep an eye on this too under the circumstances? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 15:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

It's on watchlist. --Domer48 15:47, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Dreamafter/Mediation/Answer/Summaries/Final/Discussion

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.--Domer48 18:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

This is not acceptable and will not be accepted. --Domer48 18:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Ignorance

Ignorance is the condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed. In this matter you are uninformed and there was no personal attack. Aatomic1 18:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

You wrote this in the mediation section

Birmingham pub bombings is nowhere near featured article status, so the argument that the lack of a memorial to dead Brummies is somehow preventing it being a featured article is specious.Aatomic1 20:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

"Domer has included Marylin Nash, 22 from Pelsall and Stephen Whalley, 21 from Bloxwich as dead Brummies." Did I say this? No! --Domer48 21:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Irish names

Domer48, don't you get it? Names are names. They are facts. They are not just words, like prose or poetry, that can be freely translated. I don't know what you know about the Irish language, but for the vast majority of Anglicised surnames, there are a number of possible Irish-language originals. The page you are using[1] is not an authoritative source for determining someone's name in Irish. Although I use my Irish surname (it's on all my official documents and has been for most of my life), I've looked up my own English-language name and the "translation" is absolute codswollop in that it completely defies the laws of Irish grammar. Other names I've checked are similarly arbitrary. I know people by the name of Jennings who under no circumstances would use "Mac Sheoinín" as they consider it offensive.

This page is clearly serves the requirements of the GAA that Irish "versions" of players' (again, from my experience, usually conjured up without any consultation with the players themselves) names be submitted to the match officials before a game, but does not satisfy the requirements of an encyclopaedia. What you provide are subjective renderings of what can only be objective facts. This GAA list provides no guarantee that the "translations" it provides are actually the used surnames of the people concerned.

This is cúpla focailism at its worst and it does nothing at all for the Irish language and less for the articles concerned. Morevoer, it's clear that the people who posted up these "names" in the first place have non-existent or at least very limited understanding of it and I suspect you're little different in that regard. Taking out your frustration at not being able to speak Irish on Wikipedia is pathetic. An bhfuil aon Gaeilge agatsa ar cor ar bith? Níl gléas bolscaireachta ach teanga beatha í!--Damac 11:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Glacaim leis an bpoinnte a rinne tú cé nach naontaím leath.Taím ar bheagán gaeilge ach tá suim agam sa teanga.Teanga beo cinnte!! "Cupla Focailism at its worst" does not mean anything and is a shallow term for anybody who knows more about the irish language to use about somebody of a lesser degree of irish,cúpla focailism should be encouraged and in saying that i commend domer48 for his limited but cúpla focail none the less,would it not be better damac for somebody like you to encourage the use of our native language,assuming domer48 is a full blooded irish person,well then he has every right to cúpla focail and aspire to inhance his knowledge of the "living language" as you put it,not for propaganda use as you state but for practical conversation or would that burst your "living language bubble". Damac try not discourage with words like pathetic,this living language belongs to us all,whatever your level,seems like your caught up on the laws of irish grammer instead of practical promotion of the language,something that would credit your POV with class instead of bitterness..Breen32 (talk) 20:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)Breen32 (talk) 16:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Have you forgotten the IMOS that you so willingly quoted during the week.[2] Where is the evidence in your recent spate of edits that these names were used by the subjects of the articles?--Damac 12:04, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

You said the names were not sourced. I have provided a source. You are saying the source is not relilable, provide a reference for this, otherwise it's just comment and opinion. I'm willing to be helpful, read my contrabutions on the discussion page and your talk page, please assume good faith. --Domer48 12:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Breen32 (talk) how's the form. Don't worry about those comments. You only have to read their attempt to realise what your dealing with. Your use of native Irish is much more appealing and much nicer on the ear. Take care. --Domer48 (talk) 20:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Why

do you think so? - Kittybrewster ☎ 13:41, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes. --Domer48 (talk) 14:09, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Barry

You seem to be confusing removing POV with adding a different POV. Please point to one POV statement I have inserted into the article. I have pointed to several of yours. -R. fiend (talk) 18:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Again, name one piece of POV, OR, or personal opinion I have inserted into the article. -R. fiend (talk) 18:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

You have removed information which was clearly in quotation marks. You have no idea of the author you dismissed, and you are edit waring to make a point. --Domer48 (talk) 18:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

How is removing biased information adding POV? And I am familiar with Golway, I've even read one of his books. That's irrelevant. And I'm not edit warring to make a point, I'm trying to write a neutral article. Since you can't point to one POV statement I've inserted into the article, despite several requests, I think we can dismiss your accusations outright. -R. fiend (talk) 18:57, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

This conversation is done, I will report your conduct on the admin's notice board. Which includes edit warring and blocking an article to make a point. --Domer48 (talk) 19:00, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Edit warring on Kevin Barry.

Please note that edit warring is disruptive and can lead to preventative blocks. Regards, Mercury 19:21, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Birmingham pub bombings

Domer, I note that you have begun edit-warring on the above article. May I point you to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles and indicate that you may be placed on probation under the provisions of said ArbCom ruling? Thanks - Alison ^❤ 20:45, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that Alison, will take your advice. The article is currently the subject of Mediation, as this editor is aware. The mediator has themselves had to revert this list twice, pointing out that it is the subject of mediation. If it is the case that only the mediator is to revert, I will leave it to them. Thanks again, Regards --Domer48 (talk) 20:52, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Society of the United Irishmen

Cheers mate, I've fixed the image. All the best! Martin (talk) 23:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

No Problem. --Domer48 19:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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Edits ip 81.86.253.176

Hello Domer48, thank you for suggesting I contact you. I wish to bring up two matters - firstly, the edits on the troubles. As I stated before, all other things being equal, it should be reported as an accidental killing, rather than (as the language would suggest) premeditated. Especially given the details of the killing - a high calibre machine gun round that travelled through a wall. Quite clearly accidental. Once I get round to registering I will cite a reference for this. At the very least I would suggest a rewording that seems more objective.

Secondly, the edit on the largest sizes of empires. You seem to have sent me a message which would indicate I have added material without citing sources.... My edit removed a conclusion that was not borne out by the data cited in the article, I haven't added anything at all. The statement I edited out could not be verified, so I removed it. I don't see the issue here, but if there is one please get back to me.

Thanks!

the issue of the use of the word Holocaust

Below is a summary on the issue of the use of the word Holocaust, and the political nature surrounding it, and the instigation of the controversy.

1995, James Mullin (a former librarian) and Jack Worrall (Chairman of the Rutgers University Economics Department) proposed that a study unit on the Irish Famine should be included in Holocaust Education Commission. The initiative had the support of the Holocaust Education Commission, which was largely composed of Jewish educators, including some of the death camp survivors. Despite this the Sunday Telegraph accused it of being the work of “hard line Irish American nationalists,” who were denigrating the memory of Holocaust survivors. The Sunday Telegraph omitted to mention that the Holocaust Education Commission endorsed its inclusion. New York State decided to introduce a Famine curriculum support for it cut across party and ethnic divisions, with American-Cuban Congressman Bob Mendenez, sponsored it, claiming that, ‘The Irish Famine teaches an important lesson about intolerance and inhumanity and the indifference of the British government to the potato blight that led to the mass starvation of one million people.’ The conservative press in both Britain and the United States disliked the anti- British sentiments expressed. The common tactic was to suggest that supporters of the Famine curriculum were drawing unsustainable comparisons with the Holocaust, despite this not being the case. The British government under John Major, regarded the teaching of Famine history with such seriousness was evident from the fact that the British Ambassador was recalled to New York so that he could make a formal protest to Governor Pataki. This intervention by the British Ambassador led the New York Daily News, which itself opposed the introduction of the curriculum, suggesting that, “Even after 150 years, the British still obviously fear the facts.” The London Times accusing Governor Pataki of pandering to Irish-American voters, while promoting a version of Irish history that was rooted in “the Fenian propaganda version which ambitious American politicians tend to prefer.” John Major chose not to support the Famine commemorations in Britain in 1995, describing them as being of concern only to Ireland. Tony Blair who succeeded Major, did not directly offer an apology for the actions of the British government 150 years earlier, Blair acknowledged that, “Those who governed in London at the time failed their people through standing by while a crop failure turned into a massive human tragedy.” The Daily Telegraph even before the official release of the speech, accused Blair of giving succour to “the self-pitying nature of Irish nationalism [and] the grievance culture which allows nationalist Ireland to place the blame for all the country’s ills at the door of the Brits, ultimately justifying terrorism.”

Christine Kinealy, "This Great Calamity." British sentiments expressed about the famine are only excuses for the failure ot that nation in helping a much smaller and very desperate neighbour,the famine is what it is and always will be,"A great inhumanity done to the Irish people be the British" the inhamanity was not helping and not responding to the crys for help..And 150 years later not having the guts to admit this inhumanity as did mr Blair.No politics,just pure inhumanity,in some ways a lot like the Holocaust..Breen32 (talk) 17:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC) It is my opinion the this summary highlights two things, the first being that the famine is still a deeply political issue, and secondly, the controversial nature of it is directed through the press. What I mean is, that the press creates the controversy. --Domer48 20:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Can you comment on this please? Either here, there, or my talk page will be fine. Thanks, Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Bad revert

This was a bad idea. Reverting should, per Help:reverting, only be used against vandalistic edits. Bastun's edits improved the article; by reverting his good edits you make the article worse and raise the tension all round. Please, think again about this edit. Thanks, --John (talk) 17:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I read over it again, as you suggest. The referenced information was removed, and I did suggest the use of the talk page. Thanks for the advice. --Domer48 (talk) 17:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Not at all, thanks for listening and for modifying your edit. I have since modified it further and contributed to the talk page again. Best wishes, --John (talk) 18:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Segi

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