User talk:L33tminion

A request: Please do not delete or remove material from this page, unless it is vandalism (in which case please leve me a note informing me you have done so). --L33tminion | (talk) 06:36, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

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TS and painkillers

On a "related" note, during a lethal injection procedure the condemned's arm is swabbed with antiseptic prior to insertion of the needle. So much for rational. Although, I suppose, there's an outside chance that clemency will be granted in between the time of the insertion of the needle and the time of administration of the drugs... but that's a bit of a reach, IMO. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 01:04, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

Terri Schiavo's pain

For most of 15 years Terri Schiavo had a standing order for analgesics to relieve menstrual pain. There's no way that her caregivers believed that she did not experience pain. She behaved as if she experienced pain, which is all, existentially speaking, we know for certain about anyone else's experience of pain. When someone behaves as if they are experiencing pain, the only rational conclusion is that they are experiencing pain, even though you can't prove it in an absolute sense.

Take at look at the Exit Protocol that her hospice doctor wrote for her death in 2001. Take note of the instructions to use analgesics for symptoms of pain and discomfort: "Monitor symptoms of pain/discomfort. If noted, medicate with Naproxen rectal suppository 375 mg. Q8 prn." If you tell me that you don't think that means that he thought Terri could experience pain, I'm sorry, but I won't believe you. NCdave 04:37, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC) (talk)

A patient who is unconscious does not react to pain stimulus, and so there are no "symptoms of pain/discomfort," and therefore no analgesics can be given in response to such symptoms. Nor are analgesics customarily given to comatose patients, simply because they cannot feel pain or react to pain. For example, see [1] which is a reference to a study of the use of analgesics and sedatives in terminal patients from whom life support has been withdrawn. The abstract notes that, "Patients who did not receive medication were comatose and considered incapable of benefiting from sedation and analgesia." In fact, sedation to unconsciousness is commonly used instead of analgesics, to give peace to patients who cannot be made comfortable with analgesics.

Also, the testimony from George Felos's handpicked neurologists is highly suspect, because they contradicted each other. One said that most of Terri's brain had been replaced by "spinal fluid." The other said that most of her brain was "scar tissue." Obviously, at least one of them was talking nonsense: scar tissue and spinal fluid do not look remotely similar on a CT scan.[2]

In fact, neurologists aren't qualified to interpret CT scans, anyhow. That's a job for radiologists. The two radiologists that I know of who looked at Terri's CT scans both concluded that her brain was significantly atrophied, but not nearly as bad as the Felos-selected neurologists claimed, and both doubted that she was in a PVS. Radiologist Thomas Boyle, M.D. (host of the award-winning CodeBlueBlog web site), who has interpreted over 10,000 brain CT scans, wrote, "I have seen many walking, talking, fairly coherent people with worse cerebral/cortical atrophy. Therefore, this is in no way prima facie evidence that Terri Schiavo's mental abilities or/or capabilities are completely eradicated. I cannot believe such testimony has been given on the basis of this scan." NCdave 21:47, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC) (talk)

issues about school articles

In November 2003, there was a VfD debate over Sunset High School (Portland). The debate was archived under Talk:Sunset High School (Portland). What to do with the article is still being contested and has been recently re-nominated for VfD at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Sunset High School (Portland).

I am writing to you because you have participated in such debates before. There still does not exist a wikipedia policy (as far as i can tell) over what to do in regards to articles about specific U.S. public school. My hope is that a real consensus can come out of the debate, and a real policy can take shape. Take part if you are so willing. Kingturtle 02:25, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Earthquake

It has no proper name. "earthquake" should remain lower case as per the style guidelines. Please, before moving such an important and high-traffic article as this, consult the talk page first. --Golbez 07:07, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

"2004 Indian Ocean earthquake" is more a description than a name. A hurricane has a name; i.e. Hurricane Andrew. Otherwise, it's 1970 Bhola cyclone, note the lower case. Bhola isn't the name, it's the location. As for the style guide, here: Wikipedia:Naming conventions. Specifically, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization). --Golbez 02:05, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

No problem, and thanks for responding. Sorry if I came off gruff in my first comment, it had been a long day. --Golbez 13:50, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

Gender pronouns

This is rather pedantic of me, of course...but...do remember that "they" is very difficult to manage right, and that classical English usage allows "he" to stand in for "he and she"...--VKokielov 07:42, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

To your user-page comment.  :) --VKokielov 19:56, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Well, if you can manage "they", go forth! I think that a little conservatism in language doesn't hurt (since the blood runs in the veins, not on the skin, so to say), but c'est moi. --VKokielov 23:59, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Bro

I thought you might be able to help out a fellow inclusionist on the VFD for bro. It needs cleanup but some people are trying to redirect it to brother. Check out my vote comment. Thanks —Teknic^Talk/Mail 03:29, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Combine the Existence of God Articles

I'm proposing combining the Arguments for the existence of God and the Arguments against the existence of God articles. Bryan also supports this, Mel opposes. Since you have supported a similar idea in the past, I was hoping you might want to give your two cents on the matter. Here is the discussion: Talk:Arguments for the existence of God#Combine the articles. Thanks! crazyeddie 17:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mind Benders

Hello! I've noticed your past interest in Wikipedia:Mind Benders and wanted to share the following announcement with you! I've taken over the responsibilities of Mind Benders, and the page will now be regularly updated. Right now, the pre-round is open (it's more of a creative artistic competition), and round one will open soon (the questions are done, we just need to wait for the pre-round to begin/finish)! So why not check it out? I'll keep you updated! Thanks, Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 01:39, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

P.S. Feel free to pass this news on to other Wikipedians.

Existence of God merger

I'm attempting to develop a consensus in favor of merging the Arguments against the existence of God and the Arguments for the existence of God articles. A beta version of the resulting article is available at Existence of God. To date, there seems to be consensus in favor of this merger on the "for" talk page, I'm now trying to get a consensus together on the "against" talk page. Please visit Talk:Arguments against the existence of God to weigh in. I'm copy-and-pasting this message to everybody who has contributed to that talk page. crazyeddie 05:46, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Extreme category inclusion?

How would you feel about supporting the inclusion of a category that means well, and has a pretty specific purpose? Category:Major cities in North Dakota is under attack for initially being really bad. I improved it a lot, and now it's coming under attack for being arbitrary.

I personally feel that an article, or a category, about North Dakota, made by North Dakotans, and maintained by them, shouldn't be forced to defend itself from people who don't have the slightest clue what they are talking about. What do you think? --Alexwcovington (talk) 08:08, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it! --Alexwcovington (talk) 03:55, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

RFC on SlimVirgin

I have filed a request for comment on SlimVirgin. You can visit the page by going here. FuelWagon 22:28, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

The Micronation article

Since you defended George Cruickshank during my arbitration against him last year, I would like to bring to your attention his recent alledged actions. There is strong evidence that the account User:Centauri is a sockpuppet of his. See this page for more evidence.

Recently, User:Centauri has been rather vigilant about linking to Empire of Atlantium from the micronation article: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]

This, despite the fact that he is the only user who wants this particular content in the Micronation article: [12] [13] [14] [15]

I am requesting that you look at this article and make up your own mind how to handle this content dispute (the fact that Wik may be back just fuels flames to the fire). Samboy 04:05, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I would appreciate it if you looked at the matter too.

This is text that I am trying to include:

A "summit of micronations" hosted as part of the exhibition was attended by representatives of Sealand, Elgaland-Vargaland, New Utopia, Atlantium, Frestonia and Fusa, and will feature in a 5-part BBC television documentary about micronations produced by Danny Wallace and scheduled to screen in the United Kingdom commencing in July 2005. The exhibition is also being reprised at the Andrew Kreps Gallery in New York City from 24 June - 29 July 2005.

The section in bold (which has this reference to suppoort it) is what Samboy is creating a song-and-dance about, going so far as provoke an edit war on the subject with an editor who I and many others are reasonably certain is a sockpuppet of Gzornenplatz, who has of course been forbidden to edit anything, by Jimbo.

It should be pointed out that the paragraph directly above, causes Samboy no issues at all:

In August 2003 a summit of micronations took place in Helsinki at Finlandia Hall, the site of the Conference for Security and Co-operation in Europe (CSCE). The summit was attended by delegations of the Principality of Sealand, the Kingdoms of Elgaland & Vargaland, NSK-State in Time, Ladonia, Transnational Republic, the State of Sabotage and by scholars from various academic institutions.

Both paragraphs describe events that are of international significance as far as micronations go, and I think it's important to list the participants. The fact that Samboy is so cut up over one of them, while completely ignoring the other one, shows that his judgement on the issue is severely impaired, being affected by personal disagreements he has had with other editors in the past.

I'd also ask you to compare the edit history of myself and Samboy on this article. It shows that Samboy has not added a single word to the article, while I have contributed a significant amount of work to improving both the article's written content and formatting. This shows that Samboy's claims about "advertising" by me are rubbish. --Centauri 05:08, 15 July 2005 (UTC)