User talk:Xeno

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Threads in this subheader shall not be archived because my botservant will be confused by this fake timestamp. –xeno^talk 04:20, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Questions from...

Transcluded from User talk:Tim1357/adoption

You seem to be getting on fairly well, so I'm going to untransclude this from my talk page. Ask me questions there if anything comes up. Cheers, –xeno^talk 02:34, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:CHICAGO tagging

You mentioned that it would be okay to ping you for another run through our categories by the end of August. It would be great if you could do another run through now. I am talking with AHRtbA== (talk · contribs) about whether User:YATBot might be accepting projects to sign up to do this regularly.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:20, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Sure, can do. –xeno^talk 18:22, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

 Doing... but maxlag is slowing me down. Found 350 new articles in the category: WP:CHIBOTCATS/LOG. –xeno^talk 20:49, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

 Done 413 edits. I assessed any articles in "Unassessed..." as stub if they had a stub template. –xeno^talk 22:03, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

User:Xenobot Mk V has retagged Climax Blues Band with Template:ChicagoWikiProject. I recently removed a similar previous tag as it really does not make sense. The band in question was originally called The Chicago Climax Blues Band in the late 1969s, but has/had no tangible connection otherwise with Chicago itself. I know I could simply remove the tag, but I guess that it might re-appear again without intervention from your end. These tags are somewhat beyond me as to how they work, and I thought it best to bring it to your attention before it becomes a bigger issue. I hope I have done the right thing. Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:15, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I'll drop a note for the WikiProject co-ordinator... Note it is appearing in Category:Chicago blues ensembles which WikiProject Chicago has identified as an area of interest at WP:CHIBOTCATS. ("Chicago blues" style of music...) –xeno^talk 21:21, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Does your bot respond to {{nobots}}?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

It will respect nobots, yes. –xeno^talk 21:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

auto-assess

Just summarrizing what I've read and suggested. There is a need (we are getting buried in unassesed Class and Importance articles) for auto assessing both assessment parameters when Chicago Project articles have no assessment values for either or both parameters- Class and Importance. The method for deriving the default value will be different for each one. The reporting or flagging of auto assessed values may or may not be the same. Sounds like a lot of work. Please let me know if I can help. Pknkly (talk) 06:37, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

auto-assess Class parameter

• You mentioned you were looking for something that could assess based on other project categories . . . what kind of confidence level would you be looking for? i.e. would you like at least 2 or 3 wikiProjects to agree on a class before assessing as such? –xeno^talk 21:11, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
  • As far as FA, FL and GA go, which are the most important ones, as long as any project uses one of these, it would be good to add that class to our article. For C, B, start, stub if it is possible to go by majority that would be best.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
    • FA/FL and GA can be easily found from the templates they're using. I will probably not be able to easily program something complicated that will take the majority, but what I can do is determine how many times that class is used (e.g. "is class C used at least twice?" -yes?-> tag as C). Would a single tag be enough or should I look for at least two? –xeno^talk 21:50, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
      • I would guess a single tag would be O.K., but I have not seen it operationally. You may want to talk with Pknkly (talk · contribs) about autotagging beyond FA, GA and FL for our project. He does a lot of the tagging.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:07, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Does the plan include using a method for indicating to the editors that the Class parameter was derived by a bot? Suggest using the "auto=" parameter in conjunction with the {{Stubclass}} "category=" parameter. Two categories will be needed - one for each assessment parameter (Class and Importance). The categories could be "Category:Bot Class parameter set for Chicago Project article" for Class parameter auto valuations and "Category:Bot Importance parameter set for Chicago Project article" for Importance parameter auto valuations (see below for Importance auto valuations). Seems the bot will need to have the capability to set both auto valuations for articles that don't have either parameters set. Pknkly (talk) 04:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I was planning on setting auto=yes. Why not just modify the template so they go into Category:Automatically assessed Chicago articles and update the built-in auto display to work for other-than-stub? (I'm not sure how importance would be auto-assessed...) –xeno^talk 04:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

A single auto assessed category would not work because there are two assessment parameters involved with an assessment. One is for Class and the other is for Importance. Pknkly (talk) 05:38, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

"Automatically evaluated Chicago articles" for importance  ? –xeno^talk 12:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, please see the next subsection.Pknkly (talk) 00:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Use project "scope points". An option by which another project's Class evaluation would be used as the default would be to use the Class valuation given by the project with the highest "scope points". The process (described at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/SelectionBot#WikiProject scope points ) used by the WP 1.o team may include a list of projects with their "project scope points". I'm suggesting using a list, if it exists, with all the project's "scope points" and use the project with the highest scope points, within the article needing an automatic Class valuation, as the one whose Class valuation is automatically used for the Chicago Project Class parameter. Pknkly (talk) 06:23, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Even if there were such a list, this would be a very complicated task, one that I don't have the time (or technical prowess) to tackle.

Understood and thanks for giving it some thought.Pknkly (talk) 00:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

What I could do is apply a class which exists in "X" number of projects, where "X" is a number of the WikiProject's choosing.

That would be fine.Pknkly (talk) 00:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

• For example, if there is only one other WikiProject template on the page, are you willing to take the class from that project?

I think that sticking to a threshold (the "x" factor above) would be good since "blank" Class would mean it needs the attention of a Chicgo Project member because the threshold was not met. (I and the bot missed my signature - I think it was 2 September 2009 around 00:10 Pknkly (talk) 06:40, 4 September 2009 (UTC) )

• If there are two other templates and they disagree, should I err on the lower side? Or not class?

I prefer not Class. Pknkly (talk) 00:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

• If there are three other templates and two agree, should I use that class?

That sounds real good. Pknkly (talk) 00:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Will this strategy work for you guys? –xeno^talk 12:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good! Pknkly (talk) 00:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

one	two	three	four	five	six or more
N do not tag	Y if they agree	if 2+ agree	3+	3+	4+

Does this matrix work then? –xeno^talk 00:43, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it looks good. The table summarizes what you were driving at in the text. Pknkly (talk) 06:36, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I have heard of no project auto-assessing importance. We should not be the first in this regard. I am strongly against auto-assessing importance. I am very much in favor of auto-assessing quality.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Auto-assess Importance parameter

Using the process above, could the Importance assessment parameter be automatically assigned a Low value to articles within selected categories (e.g., all alumni related, all faculty related, all Northwestern related, all players related, etc.)? Perhaps we can assign automatic Importance levels at a higher level like High to articles with categories related to a National Register. I'm suggesting adding to the current list a space or other character delimited field holding the default Importance assessment parameter value (e.g., Category:Kellogg_School_of_Management_alumni Low; Category:Museums_in_Chicago,_Illinois Mid).Pknkly (talk) 05:38, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

If you guys break up WP:CHIBOTCATS into sections ordered by default importance, I can do it this way. –xeno^talk 12:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

DO NOT DO IMPORTANCE BY BOT It varies too much from project to project and would not be helpful. However, assessing the quality of an articl is fairly uniform across projects.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:33, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I think the use of lowest Importance within the categories lists of the various projects will accurately reflect the differences between the project teams. Pknkly (talk) 00:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

No doubt, but Pknkly's suggestion to assign a default lowest importance for categories in WP:CHIBOTCATS may be worthwhile. –xeno^talk 17:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Why not try sifting through the list and see what you can come up with. –xeno^talk 00:43, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Waiting for Tony to check in. Until then, I'll throw the latest CHIBOTCATS into a spreadsheet and see if the rules and examples at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Importance Scale can be associated with categories (e.g., any category with Alumni gets Low Importance because of the following statement: "the place where they were educated is most likely to both trigger a Chicago category tag and yet be of seeming minor significance"). Statements like that can easily be translated into a lowest default Importance value. Pknkly (talk) 06:59, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Just adding auto=yes may not be best if you are automatically assessing other classes, e.g. GA-Class, as the default message will say it has been rated as a stub. You might want to disable the default note and add a custom one. You could change its message depending on what class it has been rated, e.g. auto=GA --> This article has automatically been rated as GA-Class by a bot because the currentstatus parameter of {{ArticleHistory}} is set to GA. Or something like that. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... I could certainly do that, but: is there a reason "auto=yes" can't (or shouldn't) be modified to pull from the class parameter and modify the output accordingly? The only reason I can think of is because if someone re-rates it but doesn't remove the auto= param, it will make an inaccurate statement... I suppose with your way, the auto=XX could nullify itself if the auto= and class= didn't agree... –xeno^talk 11:29, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, otherwise if someone rerates a GA-Class as Stub-Class, say, then it would say it has been automatically rated Stub-Class, which would be wrong. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

That could be solved by updating the auto parameter to be smarter, though. –xeno^talk 12:19, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes it could, but as it's only this project which is doing this yet, it would be easier to implement locally. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:31, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Good point. For some reason I thought they weren't using WPBannerMeta... –xeno^talk 12:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

So Tony, or Pknkly, you'll have to sort out how to want the bot to set the parameters and update your banner accordingly. –xeno^talk 20:01, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

MJ Talk

Hi, I was wondering why you felt the need to revert what I think is a good discussion about an aspect of Michael Jackson's life that does get discussed from time to time. The fact that the OP is now blocked is irrelevant, admittedly some of his later posts were a bit dumb but he started by raising a serious point, which was then addressed using appropriate policies and justifiably left out of the article. Talks are also a good source for those looking into the development history of an article and if another editor were to think about including this info they would be able to see that it has already been discussed and agreed not to be included. It is pointless working with concensus if we delete the evidence for them RaseaC (talk) 18:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

The section had an astonishing amount of speculation and original research and suffered from a complete lack of reliable sourcing. If you find a reliable source that speaks to this issue, please feel free to initiate a new discussion. –xeno^talk 18:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

That's my reasoning exactly. There was no source, that's why the answer was no. You can't just go about deleting talk page contributions everytime the OP is wrong, that makes no sense. Leaving the discussion there is a record that it's been suggested and refused, you don't need sources to start a discussion on something. I think it should be re-instated. RaseaC (talk) 19:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Please see WP:DENY. The person was quite obviously trolling. This has also been given treatment already numerous times, see the archives. –xeno^talk 19:01, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I think from his third post he was being an idiot, but until then it was a good discussion with proper reasoning as to why the info wasnt included and why 'because everyone knows so' is not a valid reason, which is good info for new users or especially those users looking to edit an article such as MJ. I think that where the discussion got a bit stupid isn't necessarily worth keeping, but the beginning of the talk certainly is. RaseaC (talk) 19:12, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

As I added above, this has been discussed before and until reliable sources show up to inform the discussion, it's forumy and worthless. –xeno^talk 19:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure we can just delete stuff because it's been discussed before. If we can I'll make my way over to the Muhammad talk...All I'm saying is the part of the discussion that wasn't stupid deserves inclusion as much as any other post. RaseaC (talk) 19:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

If you feel so strongly about it, go ahead and re-add the unsourced, speculative, trollish, forumy talk. I don't think it's a good idea for it to be there though. –xeno^talk 19:17, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Rawr?

We iz in yer talkspace, stalking you? - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:07, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

ZOMGZ –xeno^talk 19:09, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

dammit real life has sucked recently... I've had like almost no time to surf porn, and even less to edit the Wiki... glad to see you're still around though... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Demo stubs

Hey there, my solution to the problem at Template:Coord missing/sample 1 is not very elegant, but it is the best I can think of at the moment. The noinclude is necessary, I think, because the aim of that template is to substitue into articles. Do you have any suggestions/comments about this approach? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:57, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... Actually I think the nature of that Template is to just provide a sample of what happens when co-ordinates are missing. After I changed the example stubs to just be display only with div statement, I realized that there wasn't that much other use for suppression categorization. Demo=yes is fine though. –xeno^talk 19:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. Perhaps you are right then. But I am still looking for a way to stop the examples on Template:asbox/doc from populating the error category ... — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:29, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Yea, I tried to do that too, without success: [1]. –xeno^talk 20:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it wouldn't work on /templatepage because asbox/doc is getting caught by the only maintenance categories which we couldn't move to /templatepage, namely the undefined and erroneous name ones. I think demo will have to be used. I'm sure it's not the best way, but I suppose we'll find the best way in the end :) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:49, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, that's what I deduced, but I couldn't be arsed to track it down. It's not that hard to ignore the four asbox pages in the CAT:STUBFIX... a minor annoyance. –xeno^talk 20:51, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Nice job, the cat is clean. –xeno^talk 21:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, thanks. But it's a nasty hack really ... — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:59, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Dutch films

I would say they are speediable, I did actually work through 1905 -1960 but got sdietracked from adding to the rest of them. Give it a day or two, I'll try to tackle more tomorrow, if not then delete the remaining ones... It is probably best we have these articles but they are meant to be exactly that; articles! Himalayan 20:01, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

The main problem is of course the display issue: "directed by []]", the other issue is that in their present state they provide no more information than the list. Redirecting to the list would be problematic because then the list would be populated with redirects-to-self. If you're willing to expand more of them, by all means, if not, they would serve better as redlinks imo. cheers, –xeno^talk 20:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

You can speedy Charley (film) and Daniel (1970 film) for now. I'll do as many as I feel like tomorrow, Himalayan 20:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Nah, go ahead and delete the rest, I'm not really feeling in da mood... They can be restarted in due course with content... Himalayan 20:41, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. If the mood strikes you, I can restore them. I'll go through them manually to make sure that there isn't extra content someone added (but that's doubtful as those were filtered by the display error). –xeno^talk 20:44, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Creating a New Page

I just tried to create a new page and it was immediately removed from you. Can I ask why? Diogenes is old and outdated!! We need an article on "The Wizards Project" and on "Truth Wizards" --Wallagong (talk) 21:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

It looks like someone redirected the page to Diogenes Project, feeling there was not enough material for a separate page. I would probably tend to agree, if 'truth wizard' is a term used only by the project it would be a neologism and thus only deserve treatment in that article. But it should probably be moved to "Wizards Project" if it was renamed. Why not add the material from [2] here into a section on the target page? –xeno^talk 21:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. --Wallagong (talk) 22:26, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

WP:Plugin++

First off, thank you for the advice at what is my very first BRFA. I have a couple of other questions, but I don't want to flood the request with newbie stuff. So, it only works for those WikiProjects which are compatible and configured, or can it also work for other WikiProjects like WP:VG for instance (which IMO a lot of its BLP articles need some good cleanup and proper tagging, anyways, but besides the point). Or would it be basically a trial-and-error to see if the Plugin++ is compatible with other WikiProjects not listed? MuZemike 22:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

The Plugin will work for any project with a standard banner (see User:Kingbotk/Plugin/Generic_WikiProject_templates). So yes, it works for VG but it doesn't have built-in task force support. I'm working towards this, but I need to find someone familiar with VB to program the plugin (or plod thru it myself by modifying one of the existing plugins). –xeno^talk 22:17, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

eek

Thanks. Killiondude (talk) 22:40, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Heh, no prob. It was hugified. –xeno^talk 22:41, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Whoops

I don't know where I got that count. Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:43, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Me neither =] No problem. –xeno^talk 00:44, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I noticed you were online and thought you could help...

Please concider dealing with 210.87.245.25. He has already been banned for 31 hours and is now actively stripping pages of their content again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nezzadar (talk • contribs) 03:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I've blocked them for another 3 months. Last block was for open proxy. –xeno^talk 03:51, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Nezzadar (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC).

Vandalism blocks

Hi. I've been meaning to ask you about the appropriateness of certain uses of admin tools in certain situations, and was going to ask you about certain past uses of them on my part on certain articles, but before I could do so, a more immediate example came up.

This anonymous IP has a laundry list of vandalism warnings and past blocks stretching back three and a half years. He just vandalized the Tim Berners-Lee article. I've edited that article in the past to remove vandalism, unsourced material, etc. That this edit was vandalism is unambiguous, without any room for interpretation, and I reverted it. Would blocking that IP be wrong on my part? Nightscream (talk) 12:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, an AIV stickler would say they haven't been warned appropriately yet ( Stale warning. Last warning was issued 3 months ago.), but in general, no, if it's out-and-out obvious vandalism, involvement doesn't come into play. It is when there are actual content disputes ongoing that you must be cautious. –xeno^talk 12:31, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Renaming Pages

Multiple questions on the renaming of pages. One: I presume only admins can rename a page? Two: Can you move a page for me? Three: Or am I able to do this one myself?

The page in question is Barton-Le-Clay. I want to change this to the proper name, Barton-le-Clay (I should know, since I bloody live there). The non-capitalised page is currently a redirect to the capitalised page. Therefore, would I be able to simply copy-paste the pages to each other, altering necessary information? My original theory was that I could do that, but I've now got to wondering if that would screw with people's watchlists and they'd be watching a redirect page. ... long story short, can you swap the pages around? Pretty please?

Question four (and only mildly related): how do I upload pictures to Wikipedia? It's just I'm in the process of attempting to find a suitable camera to take pictures for said article. Lots of pretty pictures. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:29, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Wait... what the hell? I've just checked to make sure I got the links right and... the name of the article is correct? ... It wasn't on Wednesday... but the history says it happened in 2005? Oh, boy, I'm confused by all this time-travel. Never mind. The other questions stand, I guess, if I ever need to know again (especially question four). --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:31, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

The lead is wrong, maybe that's where you were confused? You can rename pages by moving them as long as they aren't move protected and the target doesn't exist, or only has 1 revision being a redirect (or something). If the target page has more than 1 revision, you'll need an admin to vacate it, and this could be done via history merge, page swap, or just deleting it if the revisions aren't significant.

If you're going to be releasing the pictures under a cc-by-sa or public domain license, you should actually upload them to the commons at commons:Commons:Upload. If it's a non-free image though, you can just use Special:Upload. –xeno^talk 15:32, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Nope, it was definitely the main title of the page that was wrong. *scratches head* And I have no idea what cc-by-sa means. I'm going to be taking the images myself though (if I can get a camera anyway). --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:38, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible you reached the page from the redirect and were looking at the address bar? The address bar will show the redirect title rather than the title of the page you land at.

"cc-by-sa" is a form of licensing. If you are essentially "giving the images to the commons" you would either use cc-by-sa or simply "public domain". This is probably what you want. –xeno^talk 15:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Again, no. Oh, well. It's just another of life's unknown mysteries, like popcorn and corsets. Thanks for the photo help. (Entirely unrelated question: Do you have to be an admin to vote in an RfB? I think you need a promotion (and a paycheck, if possible)). --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Strange. Let me know if you figure it out =) No, any registered user can vote in an RfB. –xeno^talk 15:50, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I will. Also, woo! Go promotion! --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Done, if you're curious. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:59, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks =) –xeno^talk 16:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I am slightly back

I am back to checking wiki every few days, bbut it may take me some time before I do aany major or rapid edits. 'The Ninjalemming'' 17:45, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Not gunna lie, the place wasn't the same without you laying around, eating all the food in my fridge and such. –xeno^talk 19:57, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

damn... two of Xeno's stalkers coming back to active at the same time... who's got the beer? - Adolphus79 (talk) 20:01, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Heck yes, long weekend + beer = win. –xeno^talk 20:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

What long weekend? I've got work on Saturday and Monday. Useight (talk) 23:15, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Blame Canada? –xeno^talk 23:19, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I never drink anything that enters and leaves my body looking the same. HalfShadow 20:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

LOL... If you are able to confuse you beer for urine, you are obviously drinking the wrong kind of beer... - Adolphus79 (talk) 20:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Good luck!

Just be careful. They might found out about that bug you crushed last week, which would surely mean the death of your candidacy... :) –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:00, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Good luck from me as well, xeno. :) Javért  |  ^Talk 00:36, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Good luck x3. Nja²⁴⁷ 15:59, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks all =). –xeno^talk 22:52, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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i replied Tim1357 (talk) 20:18, 5 September 2009 (UTC)