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== Districts of Kosovo in Serbia == |
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| Request name | Motions | Initiated | Votes |
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| Stephan Schulz & Lar | 20 May 2010 | {{{votes}}} | |
| Districts of Kosovo in Serbia | 18 May 2010 | {{{votes}}} |
| Request name | Motions | Case | Posted |
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| Amendment request: Article titles and capitalisation | none | (orig. case) | 7 June 2024 |
| Clarification request: mentioning the name of off-wiki threads | none | none | 4 June 2024 |
| Amendment request: India-Pakistan | none | (orig. case) | 27 June 2024 |
| Clarification request: Contentious topics restrictions | none | none | 10 June 2024 |
| Amendment request: World War II and the history of Jews in Poland | Motion | (orig. case) | 21 June 2024 |
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Stephan Schulz & Lar
Initiated by Hipocrite (talk) at 21:14, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Involved parties
- Hipocrite (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- Lar (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- Stephan Schulz (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
Statement by Hipocrite
Lar states he is an "uninvolved" admin for the purposes of WP:GSCC. Other users say he is involved, and yet other users say he is not involved. Lar is repeatedly removing statements made by Stephan Schulz from the uninvolved section of WP:GSCC requests. Stephan Schulz has removed statements by Lar from the uninvolved section of WP:GSCC requests. There is no reasonable way to resolve this dispute without a direct ruling by ArbCom that one or both of them are uninvolved/involved/whatever. Please limit the scope of this case to the issue of admin involvement - dealing with the Global Warming problem is a different, but related case. Trying to mush them together would merely slow down both. Thanks. Hipocrite (talk) 21:19, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- While it might seem expiditious to deal with this by motion, I suggest that ArbCom, if it intends to do so, should at the very least allow for a limited presentation of evidence from people who care (namely, not me.) Hipocrite (talk) 21:31, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Statement by Lar
I think a case is overkill, a clarification of this matter by attaching to the right existing case would be more efficient, I suspect. But I leave that to others to deterime
Simply put, while there are those that would find it convenient to remove me from the enforcement action, and who have labored hard to make it so, I'm not involved in climate change matters as I do not edit in the area. There is an RfC running about this, Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Lar. I think my response is instructive. I think that all the other uninvolved admins have said they consider me uninvolved is also significant.
On the other hand, Stephan Schulz by no stretch of the imagination can be considered to be uninvolved. His placing material in the uninvolved admin section is apparently provocative baiting.
I ask for a quick finding so we can get back to the real matters at hand. ++Lar: t/c 21:26, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Statement by {Party 3}
Statement by likely involved LessHeard vanU (talk · contribs)
As this is a fairly narrowly defined request I feel it might best be dealt with by Motion, and suggest acceptance on that basis. I would also suggest that a definition of "uninvolved admin" might follow that as suggested here. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:29, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Statement by uninvolved Collect
In the past, "involved" has generally meant "editorially involved in a topic area" - else the instant any person who had not editted significantly in the area would be accused of being "involved" as soon as he or she acted as an admin in the area the second time. Catch-22, if you will. This case, therefore, is ill-suited for an ArbCom discussion as such, though at some point in a case where the actual disctnction becomes important, it may decide to adopt a formal position as to what point makes a person who is not actively editing an area (making the normal exclusions for formatting edits, spelling etc.) become "involved" when this has not been the status quo ante on Wikipedia as far as I have been able to determine reading past ArbCom findings of fact. Collect (talk) 21:34, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Statement by uninvolved Georgewilliamherbert
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Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (0/0/0/0)
- Recuse on all AGW. Steve Smith (talk) 21:38, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Districts of Kosovo in Serbia
This is about the districts mentioned in Districts_of_Kosovo and Districts_of_Kosovo_and_Metohija
Initiated by James Michael DuPont at 21:25, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Involved parties
- Mdupont (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- Tadija (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
Statement by User:Mdupont
I would like to merge the parallel articles on the districts of Kosovo. They are confusing and misleading as currently created. There are no clear statements that parallel articles exist and the distintion between them serves more to create a POV parallel structure, it does not add information to the wikipedia but hides it.
I would like to see that all albanian names are added to the district articles, we need to be able to find the articles if looking for names. I am not a native speaker of serbian or albanian, and it is very hard to find the information as it is currently setup. If you dont know the serbian name of a town, for example if you are looking up an address, you wont find the right information. this has to be changed. We are working on openstreetmap of kosovo and for this we often need to look up places by the albanian, and albanian alternative names. I request that these are added along side all serbian place names in kosovo.
Also we need to include links from the old district system to the new municipality system so that we can go from the old district information to the new municipality system.
I would like to use a different set of templates for the districts,cities and areas of kosovo so that we can include boilerplate code in them. We should not use the standard serbian district templates for the kosovo/serbian ones so that we can find and change them easier.
Every time I make a change, the user Tadija reverts it and threatens me to be reported. Also the user Tadija is paying too much attention to my other articles and such, editing articles about my grandpa, complaining about my home page etc. I feel somewhat threatened by his undue attention and would appreciate it if someone would please advise me on how to react to this.
Statement by {Party 2}
Clerk notes
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- Clerk note This will be archived soon as being mathematically impossible. MBisanz talk 21:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (0/6/0/0)
- Decline no link showing other party notified and only attempt at resolution is a talk page thread. See WP:DR. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:37, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Decline, but there are places where you can get help in resolving the problems here. You raise several issues which are probably best dealt with separately. If you are unsure what approach is best, ask for advice at the administrators noticeboard, or request a third opinion. Carcharoth (talk) 02:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Decline per my colleagues. Steve Smith (talk) 19:09, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
- Decline per everyone else. Shell babelfish 13:34, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Decline per those above. ArbCom is the last step of dispute resolution. Not the first. SirFozzie (talk) 15:04, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Decline – KnightLago (talk) 21:00, 20 May 2010 (UTC)