User talk:Bobthefish2

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Nomination of DNA Codon Table for deletion

A discussion has begun about whether the article DNA Codon Table, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DNA Codon Table until a concensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion.

You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Tagishsimon (talk) 19:52, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Greetings

Hi Bob,

Sorry to see your first article was nominated for deletion, which is nothing to feel bad about – literally the majority of new articles do end up deleted. I've noticed many of Wikipedia's articles on molecular biology have room for improvement, so I think you'll find plenty to do here. I've left a couple of comments at Talk:Genetic code that might interest you. You might be interested in joining WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology if you haven't already.

Cheers, Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 12:15, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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順風相送

This is easy. The edit which disturbed your inline citation note was simply wrong here; and my error is corrected here. I am glad for the opportunity to explain. The edit summary notes will help to clarify.

Perhaps I should have posted a note on your talk page as soon as I noticed this error? --Tenmei (talk) 01:20, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

No, that's fine. Lately, some editors have been relentlessly sabotaging the contents I added/changed in that page. As a result, I mistook this as just another instance of vandalism. Bobthefish2 (talk) 02:01, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Senkaku Islands dispute, you may be blocked from editing. (diff) ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 03:58, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't care about your baseless warnings. Please refrain from sending me another message. Thanks. Bobthefish2 (talk) 04:23, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I noticed that you have posted comments to the page User_talk:San9663 in a language other than English. When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, no matter to whom you address your comments. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, please provide a translation of the comments. For more details, see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. Also, be civil. We do not permit personal attacks in any language. Thank you.  Chzz  ►  05:50, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

The word 蘿蔔頭 means "Turnip head" a derogatory term for Japanese people.Google translation ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 09:27, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

See this and this. Oda Mari (talk) 09:52, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Oda Mari (talk) 07:54, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Judging from your previous behaviour, I find it difficult to take your advice seriously. I filed a complaint and notified others who suffered from the same issue. It was a request for an admin judgement and not a consensus. If a community discussion is to take place, it will be on a separate page.

Also, if you are so against partisanship, then you wouldn't be engaging in that as well. Bobthefish2 (talk) 20:45, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I think we have a strong case against phoenix666 based on him tendentious editing (WP:TE). STSC (talk) 09:37, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, it appears that the admin I asked doesn't want to deal with edit-wars. So I guess we may have to find a different means of filing this complaint. Bobthefish2 (talk) 11:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I knew phoenix666 would revert my edit, and he fell into my trap so that the administrators would notice how evil he is. STSC (talk) 17:48, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

He's not evil... just incredibly stubborn and unrelenting. Even though the admins think he hasn't done enough to deserve a ban, I do hope this will serve as a warning for certain editors. At the same time, the lack of condemnation of his actions from traditionally critical editors such as Oda Mari, Qwyxian, and John Smith does imply objectivity may only go so far among the pro-Japanese bloc. However, this doesn't mean the rest of us should not exercise objectivity in our edits and opinions (i.e. don't post personal essay, blog posts, etc as references). Otherwise, you will find yourself losing the moral high ground. Bobthefish2 (talk) 19:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

You're too kind on them; I know how this organised gang of fanatics operates but I just don't have the time and energy to combat those bullies. As to Kiyoshi's quote, he was a very well-known Japanese historian and his finding on Diaoyutai is certainly not a personal essay or blog post; I'm actually starting an article about him. STSC (talk) 21:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

If Kiyoshi is a good source, then that's very good.

As for those guys, they have been known to do similar things in the past. The best way of dealing with them is to make sure they are the only ones doing the things you accuse them of doing. However, it seems they aren't as active anymore after the page was locked, which is good. Bobthefish2 (talk) 05:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

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Kiyoshi Inoue

Please give some thought to my responses to the edits of STSC and San9663 at Talk:Senkaku Islands#Kiyoshi Inoue. I hope you construe my comments as thoughtful, practical, and forward-looking. --Tenmei (talk) 07:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

You should post a 'diff' link next time, as I had to guess which were your additions. It may help if some Japanese users rent a copy of the book from a local library to see if it make sense at all. Bobthefish2 (talk) 09:27, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Tolstoy

In part, this is a follow-up to the problems you are helping to resolve at Senkaku Islands and Senkaku Islands dispute.

I wonder if you have previously stumbled across this quote?

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him. -- Leo Tolstoy, 1994

For me, this concept has resonance in a variety of Wikipedia settings. These sentences were introduced to me by someone interested in Metonymy and WP:Polling is not a substitute for discussion ≠ WP:Straw poll. Although I still haven't resolved what I think about the context, I do come back again and again to Tolstoy's words.

Perhaps these words might be usefully stored in the back of your mind? --Tenmei (talk) 15:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)