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Yeshiva Gedola of Carteret

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Not notable no real references in the articles and it has been marked as such for years. CapMan07008 (talk) 21:52, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 13:42, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 13:42, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 13:42, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Delete non-notable private college, with an article that reads like a prospectus. --Simple Bob ^{a.k.a. The Spaminator} (Talk) 13:49, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

• NOTE: This nomination is flawed because the article was not tagged with a "deletion template". IZAK (talk) 10:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks IZAK, Did you fix the nomination? I'm sorta new and still learning my way around Wikipedia. CapMan07008 (talk) 01:30, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Hmm CapMan, for a "new" editor (only joined August 15th, not even two weeks [1]!!!) you sure are busy running to delete articles about Orthodox Judaism and Jews, such as when you were slapped down with a Speedy Keep at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aharon Kotler and now this article. Take a few deep breaths, step back, try to engage other editors in fair discussions first, go to their talk pages, or go to WP:TALKJUDAISM and get the expert views of editors there. This is a long term work in progress. That will help you out. Raise your level of WP:AGF and WP:NPOV and then you can take the lunge at deleting articles that are bound to raise controversy which you should try to avoid. IZAK (talk) 07:24, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes I am new, and I've admitted this, as for the Aharon Kotler I admit I didn't do enough research there weren't enough references listed on the pages, it pointed out to me later how I should do a proper search on this. I am still new and learning. I will take your helpful tips, I appreciate you guidance. FYI, I have also nominated non-orthodox articles for deletion with 1 being deleted another 1 prodded and several other where I have tagged for needed references and if there are no reference is a reasonable amount of time they too will be nominated for deletion CapMan07008 (talk) 22:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

• Keep, well-written article that needs more citations about a notable yeshiva in New Jersey. IZAK (talk) 10:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

IZAK, I've been watching this article and trying to improve it for at least 2 years. I've tried finding sources many time and come up with nothing. If you can share some WP:RS that would be great but otherwise, the nominator is correct and the article should go. Joe407 (talk) 14:32, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

• Delete, I Agree with Joe407, it has been marked for quite some time looking for references since October of 2009, unless they can be added, This should be deleted. DrSultan85 (talk) 00:20, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
• Delete, For the Same reasons as Joe407 and DrSultan85, I think this fits under A7, that's why I nominated this. CapMan07008 (talk) 01:30, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
• Keep. Contrary to popular opinion here, the article is apparently sourced. Highschools and a fortiori post-high schools are considered inherently notable. I can't see why this type of schools should be treated any differently. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:51, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Well that opinion is currently changing - see Jimbo Wales talk page, where he says a statement by him on this topic was misconstrued and that in fact schools are not inherently notable. --Simple Bob ^{a.k.a. The Spaminator} (Talk) 06:38, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I've seen no evidence that opinion is actually changing. Whether this kind of school falls in the mainstream of the years of AfD consensus may be another matter, as this is a specialty school of unclear size.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 18:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I never heard of Jimbo Wales (what a silly name anyway) and don't give a flying shit what he has to say.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:08, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

He's nobody special, he just THE FOUNDER OF WIKIPEDIA, lol... CapMan07008 (talk) 15:07, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

• Keep Specialized high schools and colleges are considered notable. The distinction is between colleges and trade schools. A theological institute ins not a trade school--its a specialized academic institution. Size is irrelevant. DGG ( talk ) 03:44, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Even If we ignore size, it still has no WP:RS CapMan07008 (talk) 21:54, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein  05:49, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

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• Reluctant delete. I am unable to find any coverage in the Haredi press. Yoninah (talk) 12:35, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
• I change my delete to strong delete although much has been said about this article but thee fact remains it still has insufficient WP:RS, and nothing has been said that might prove its notability CapMan07008 (talk) 22:01, 31 August 2011 (UTC)