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:I did no say that you were not a good person. I said that bongwarior is not a good admin. Taking things to that extreme is not a fatal flaw (since no one is actually being dead) and I don't need or want your advice on how to deal with others. My move: Telling you to not exasperate situations when you assume your input is needed and using hyperbole when it isn't needed. "Fatal" was laughing about the term "darkie" in the neighborhood I live in.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 10:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
:I did no say that you were not a good person. I said that bongwarior is not a good admin. Taking things to that extreme is not a fatal flaw (since no one is actually being dead) and I don't need or want your advice on how to deal with others. My move: Telling you to not exasperate situations when you assume your input is needed and using hyperbole when it isn't needed. "Fatal" was laughing about the term "darkie" in the neighborhood I live in.[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 10:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
::Well, I think he's a ''good'' admin, and I think your methods of testing his qualities as an admin are ''garbage'' if you use "friends" like that. Thanks for the input, though: duly noted. ;> [[User:Doc9871|<font color="#000000" size="2">'''Doc'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Doc9871|<font color="#999999">'''talk'''</font>]] 10:15, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
::Well, I think he's a ''good'' admin, and I think your methods of testing his qualities as an admin are ''garbage'' if you use "friends" like that. Thanks for the input, though: duly noted. ;> [[User:Doc9871|<font color="#000000" size="2">'''Doc'''</font>]] [[User_talk:Doc9871|<font color="#999999">'''talk'''</font>]] 10:15, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

== U SMELL ==

I DON'T LIKE YOU STINKYBRAINS BECAUSE YOU CURSE AT EVERYBODY AND DELETE THEIR STUFF

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File:Gombitova Nocne lampy.jpg

Hi, can you help me with a correct specifying of the image to avoid its deleting? What should I use instead "Invalid fair use rationale" for the file, please? It is a screenshot taken from a TV talk show. Thank you. Uzerakount (talk) 10:39, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is one. Many of your uploads are okay, but too many of them are either non-free images used for decoration, or used to identify living people. For living people, it has to either be a free image or no image, with very few exceptions. --Bongwarrior (talk) 10:45, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I thought Wikipedia policy allows to use screenshots. Else we couldn't either use a screenshots from music videos... I believe that as for Gombitova, one picture for a well developed article shouldn't be considered as decoration but be that "exception". Sorry to bother but can you advise, please? Uzerakount (talk) 10:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The rules for music videos and album covers are different than the rules for living people. There is no possible free substitute for an album cover, so it is usually acceptable to use a non-free image under a claim of fair use. The same is usually true for music videos, as long as the video is being discussed in the article, not just the song. For File:Gombitovascreenshot.JPG, there is no valid claim for fair use because it is replaceable: i.e., a free image can fulfill the same purpose. It is not necessary that a free image is readily available, only that one could conceivably be created, which is always possible if the person is still alive. If the person is deceased, then a fair use image may be permissible because it is no longer possible to create a free one. --Bongwarrior (talk) 11:14, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for sharing as above... It is a sort of difficult to manage all the rules for a non-native english person. One more question, please. As for Gombitova's screenshots I didn't use claim for fair use because it is "replaceable". I included in 'REPLACABLE' field that "the image is not replaceable by free content". Or am I getting confused...? Thanks heaps again Uzerakount (talk) 12:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I modified the description details for Gombitova files. Hope it is alright.. Uzerakount (talk) 12:33, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
But it is replaceable by a free image that would serve the same purpose, so I don't think that will work. It can be kind of tricky - Wikipedia:Non-free content probably does a better job of explaining the difference between acceptable and unacceptable fair use than I am able to. --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:13, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How could a picture that refers to a concerete event be replaceable by any free image. If so, in that case it must apply also for screenshots of music videos. I discuss the person and the issue itself (e.g. Car Accident of Marika Gombitova) in the relevant article. I left my comments on the discussion page of the discussed files, there is nothing more I can do about as it seems. Uzerakount (talk) 21:26, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I know that Hullaballoo Wolfowitz removed the files yesterday. Though, I think he'd wait unless discussion is not finished. I included today into all files' description that "a free equivalent is unavailable," which is true. But I don't know what more I can do. Thank you anyway Uzerakount (talk) 20:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thanks for fixing that mistake as my keyboard is being a bit finicky lately. It's good to know that people still care and don't just revert. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:46, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, the page has been pretty busy today. The whole thing is such a shame. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Needs talk page access revoked. Calabe1992 (talk) 00:54, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Already done. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:54, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Page move issue

I have a user at Bondi Rockets Floorball Club that created duplicate pages in an attempt to get the page to the correct title. I attempted to move one duplicate page to clear the title but it didn't work as I wanted. If the duplicates could be deleted I'd appreciate it. Calabe1992 (talk) 01:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, done. --Bongwarrior (talk) 01:10, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I realized I left one bad redirect, however, here. If that could be deleted as well I will move the page. Calabe1992 (talk) 01:12, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also done. --Bongwarrior (talk) 01:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, hopefully we've done what they wanted. :) Calabe1992 (talk) 01:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

why delete it

MacForce3 (talk) 03:02, 18 October 2011 (UTC) hey I'm trying to put some credible info to pay respect to my C.O. because not may show him any for his accomplishments. this article about Johnathon MacDonald is like a biography for future reference of a great leader and a great person. can u at least give me this to pay him my respects for training me and teaching me some really great things that saved my relationship with my parents.This guy need some encouragement because people only do great things for a while before they get tired of it as they don't get the respect they deserve.[reply]

Sorry, but he isn't notable. Wikipedia really isn't the place to pay tribute to someone. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:07, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why did my page get deleted?

I have been working on a wiki page since 6 pm today, right now it is 1am in the morning and my page has been deleted. I'm new to Wiki, so I don't know if it got deleted because I saved it before it was done... and I wasn't done with it. More information had to be put in like the discography. I was making a page about Jlcdlt. He is a recording artist. And he is notable enough to be on Wikipedia. He has fans in South America, the United States, Europe, the UK, Australia and Canada. Do you think I could make a page about Jlcdlt and not save it until it's complete? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popguru101 (talkcontribs) 07:56, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved it to your userpage, where you can work on it as much as you like. However, I'm fairly certain that the subject doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability requirements, so I'm not sure there's anything you can do to make it more acceptable. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:04, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand how you are certain if I hadn't put sources in it yet and it wasn't even complete? And I read the notabiliy requirements. I'm have studied this artist enough and I am fairly certain that he meets those requirements. I would like to finish the page to the fullest, but I don;t want to spend hours working on it, so it can be deleted. How can I assure that it won't be deleted? Maybe it can be reviewed by a person that has done research about this artist's notability? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popguru101 (talkcontribs) 08:11, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you like, I'd be happy to review it when you are finished. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:13, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why did the Jlcdlt page get deleted...again? Can you provide specific reasons? --Popguru101 (talk) 06:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Because Jlcdlt is not notable by Wikipedia standards. Facebook, Twitter, even iTunes - great for promoting an artist wanting to make it. This site is for those who have already made it to a level that at least a few reliable sources have commented on. Bongwarrior is just doing what the majority of editors would do, so don't take it personally. Doc talk 07:04, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for handling the "award" on my talk page last night

It's appreciated. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:19, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Congrats, by the way :) --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:40, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the crash image does belong. Dan's alive and well in the photo and the photo furthers the reader's understanding of the accident by illustrating it in a way which text cannot. I've made a more detailed comment on article's talk page and would appreciate your input before we decide whether or not to include it. N419BH 01:06, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, thank you for letting me know. --Bongwarrior (talk) 01:19, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What the heck would I do with this?

Hi BongWarrior, I see you've been busy clearing out CSD tagged articles. I ran into this (Love_To_Be_Hated) and cannot find a suitable CSD rationale. Does it really have to be PROD'd or have I missed something? Best, ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/CN 00:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Much thanks. I thought it kinda leaned G11 but wasn't sure. I was skipping A7 since it wasn't quite talking about a company (just their product line). Thanks again, ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/CN 00:25, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. You picked the best possible course of action, which is to not tag it if you are uncertain, rather than to try to shoehorn it into a category where it might not fit. Sometimes it's painfully obvious that something needs to be deleted, but it's not really a speedy deletion candidate. There's nothing wrong with using prod in that case, but that wasn't necessary here. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:32, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver Tarney deleted

why have you deleted the page? You based your decision on a vandalised version of the article which I restored, which DID state his importance. At the very least it deserves to stand trial . Δελφι — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.139.89 (talk) 10:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, I saw the correct version. There wasn't a big difference, and I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. --Bongwarrior (talk) 11:01, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If u saw the correct version, then why did you delete it. There was a claim of importance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.136.195 (talk) 11:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I read it twice, very slowly. There wasn't, honestly. --Bongwarrior (talk) 11:08, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes there was. It said he was a prominent musician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.139.217 (talk) 11:10, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Being a "prominent musician" is so vague that it means absolutely nothing. If you feel I have deleted this incorrectly or out of process, you are welcome to mention it at Wikipedia:Deletion review, which functions as a sort of oversight, but I don't believe you will find satisfaction. --Bongwarrior (talk) 11:17, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks..

for the protect on Heather Mikayle‎ its been a problematic CSD. If you look at the primary author's contribs you'll notice that they've created it under other titles... might want to place a protection on them too, if you see fit. Cheers Petiatil »Talk 14:52, 21 October 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Thanks for blocking that dude so quickly....

I was about to file an ANI report. :p Btw, is this an inappropriate edit summary? [1] (how often do I get to use that one?) :p Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 24 Tishrei 5772 04:18, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. It's a turtleneck, not a hoodie. --Bongwarrior (talk) 04:28, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, you wouldn't expect me to know that though now would you? :p Uh oh, he's persistent. I can't imagine how someone can be so obsessed with foreskins; then again... [2] Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 24 Tishrei 5772 04:34, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jacob Patton

deleted a legit topic homie..make that two in a row — Preceding unsigned comment added by Formulata (talkcontribs) 07:39, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking policy

You are not supposed to block IPs without sufficient warning. Care to explain?Cptnono (talk) 08:40, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Which IP is this concerning? --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:41, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So you make blocks so fast that you do not know which IPs you are blocking? My inquiry is in regards to this edit. You are not supposed to be blocking without giving sufficient warning regardless of how absurd the edit was. The only argument would be concerns over BLP. You failed to warn the IP or even mention BLP in the edit summary so I assume you were not actually considering that.Cptnono (talk) 09:02, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just to be completely honest, I am not a big fan of my buddies screwing around with Wikipedia but I am more concerned that admins should know better than to make a 31 our block without warning.Cptnono (talk) 09:04, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
For normal vandalism, I'm perfectly happy to issue warnings. For racist vandalism such as that, I usually don't bother warning - if someone doesn't already know that that's not the way to behave, a note from someone named "Bongwarrior" is unlikely to have much effect. Warnings before blocking are a nice courtesy, but one that's not always extended depending on the situation. By no means are they required. --Bongwarrior (talk) 09:11, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 09:12, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) Who exactly is this ip? They do seem to be a friend of Cptnono, for certain. That diff for Air Force One was horrid. Color me confused... Doc talk 09:17, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So you were quick to block without giving proper warning and quick to respond to a talk page request for clarification but you are slow in responding to criticism that you do not know how to use the tools you have somehow earned. So I will take your delayed response as acknowledgement that you understand you are supposed to give appropriate warnings before blocking. I will in return try to remember to lock this shared machine at night when drunks are on but it should not be needed since a simple warning would have been sufficient. And at the end of the day you should know better sine we have policies on how to handle disruptive edits. Please familiarize yourself with them.
(edit conflict) The IP is one of my machines. I thought it was funny hearing that it was blocked to a certain extent. But the edit was not OK and I would prefer it more if it was not made. But silliness is silliness and an admin misusing his tools is bad.Cptnono (talk) 09:24, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That edit is more than not "OK". Whatever your angle is: I'm not for it. Doc talk 09:29, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The block without warning was not "OK". Whatever the angle is: I'm not for it. A simple revert + warning would have been sufficient. It really doesn't matter since my account can still edit but since it was such a poor use of tools I feel OK relaying the message that "If you had a bong in your hand you wouldn't be such a bitch". I actually drink and don't smoke so don't care much for that sort of BSing. And the guys are in front of the couch now so they are done. So how about you go read the blocking policy and then lift the block on the IP.Cptnono (talk) 09:40, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Unblock not happening. If you see admin abuse here, take it to WP:ANI. --Bongwarrior (talk) 09:43, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(drool) Oooh! Please take it there! I do love a good show. Doc talk 09:46, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see admin abuse. I see an admin who doesn't know the blocking policy. Disruption has ceased from a user who has admitted to be from the IP. Blocking is meant to be preventative. I doesn't impact me if you release it or not so I am not going to waste other's times at ANI. But I have no qualms wasting your time since you choose to make blocks on IPs without understanding how they are supposed to be done. Your reasoning is that you racism makes it OK. My counter to that is that the handling of any disruptive editing has a set protocol that you are not above. We obviously won't agree (and we don't need to) but one thing I want to make perfectly clear: The edit was bad but you are still a poor admin. And Doc, be a better person who does not enjoy other's conflicts. It is a sorry thing to see and you should feel ashamed for acting like a kid.Cptnono (talk) 09:51, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Are not. --Bongwarrior (talk) 09:53, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're an are not!Cptnono (talk) 09:54, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nuh-uh. --Bongwarrior (talk) 09:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah-huh. Good night, bongwarrior. Over bloody marries I will explain to the guys that they should make malicious edits on their own machines. Cptnono (talk) 10:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
@Cptnono: Why you gotta get all "You're not a good person?" with me? This is a fatal flaw in dealing with others, BTW. I didn't attack or judge you with anything I said, yet you did to me. Checkmate? Your move... Doc talk 09:59, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did no say that you were not a good person. I said that bongwarior is not a good admin. Taking things to that extreme is not a fatal flaw (since no one is actually being dead) and I don't need or want your advice on how to deal with others. My move: Telling you to not exasperate situations when you assume your input is needed and using hyperbole when it isn't needed. "Fatal" was laughing about the term "darkie" in the neighborhood I live in.Cptnono (talk) 10:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I think he's a good admin, and I think your methods of testing his qualities as an admin are garbage if you use "friends" like that. Thanks for the input, though: duly noted. ;> Doc talk 10:15, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

U SMELL

I DON'T LIKE YOU STINKYBRAINS BECAUSE YOU CURSE AT EVERYBODY AND DELETE THEIR STUFF