User talk:McGeddon

Change to Baby boomers article

Hi McGeddon, I've received your email

Hello, I'm McGeddon. Your recent edit to the page Baby boomers appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. McGeddon (talk) 11:39, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

When reading the Baby boom article I found the text

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the first recorded use of "baby boomer" is from 1970 in an article in The Washington Post.[9][dead link]

As I am a happy user of the Oxford English Dictionary Second Edition on CD-ROM (v. 4.0.0.2) I try to verify the info and find (baby n. Compounds 2.) two uses of the term baby boom, one in 1941 and other in 1967 before the original 1971 appearance

As I should not cite this paragraph textually for copyright reasons, I must use the same way the first writer used

"According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the first recorded use of "baby boomer" is from ... in an article in ...[link]

substituting the old items with the new ones. The first writer used an internal academic link www.oed.com.proxy2.library.illinois.edu probably not being aware that the general public has no access to it.

Moreover, I find in Google Books the proper link, from 1941, so I am able to substitute the original dead link from the 1970 with a new working link from 1941.

So, returning to your email, you say "Your recent edit to the page Baby boomers appears to have added incorrect information". On what grounds do you say it is incorrect? I give a link to a number of Life Magazine you are able to read in Google Books. The term "Baby boom" was effectively used in a 1941 article you can read in the given link. We are in the baby boom article and it is a link to an appearance of the term previous to the one cited. So the information is good. The only possibly incorrect information is the attribution to the OED of the finding. "According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the first recorded use of "baby boomer" is...". But for copyright reasons, I cannot go further. The only thing one can do is go to the OED and verify it. I have done that. Have you done so? What edition have you used? On what grounds do you feel enabled to revert to a previous text which disregards a -probably new finding- of a previous use? I suppose the first writer (who, by the way, did all the hard work) used a previous ed. of the OED than I did.

I try to be extraordinarily respectful with Wikipedia, and I felt confident enough to make this little correction. Nevertheless. you have felt confident enough to say this info is incorrect without citing a reliable source. You ask me to cite a reliable source. I did. This link (1st paragraph, 4th line and again at the end of page 73) is, I think, a reliable source. And yours? Where are your sources? Where do you find my information is incorrect? If you believe your information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page.

I could omit the attribution to the OED, which is of secondary importance in this article, but the merit is theirs, not mine.

As I wilfully defer to the preeminence you attribute to yourself, you can correct the Baby boomer article as you like. You can even say the first use of the term is from last month. But, poor Wikipedia! Are you really an admin?

Jorgemelis (talk) 08:13, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Change to Tourism Article

Hello - This was my first edit to Wiki and I see my change to the toursim page was reverted. Could you help in understanding what the issue was so that it will help me to keep this in mind for future edits.

Appreciate it.

Kennesaw State University Links

The link that I included was supporting evidence of the candidacy of a politician. The trend toward removing external links limits the credibility of any encyclopedia. References outside of itself build the credibility and legitimacy of any source of information.

E-Learning - Section "Further Reading"

To: User:McGeddon The external link (shown below) that you have removed, links to a book which teaches critical skills for online self-learning to students. I think thats relevant for the section "Further reading".

• Become an iMature Student, Raghu Pandey, 2013, ISBN 978-1-4921-5697-0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ithewanderer (talk • contribs) 12:00, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

McGeddon commented "Linking to an Amazon sales page for a book goes against WP:ELNO."
Point taken. Please advise how to link to books. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ithewanderer (talk • contribs) 12:32, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Is "Internet Maturity" all about "Digital Literacy"

To: User:McGeddon Dear McGeddon, I strongly yet humbly advise you to consider the following points in my defence of creating a separate article for Internet maturity:
- "Internet maturity" is applied to both - individuals and organizations. Whereas "Digital literacy" can only be applied to individuals.
- All the sources provided under "References" section are reliable ones talking about the points discussed in the article.
- It is justified if you remove the external links in the article, but instead of redirecting right-away, you should let other readers decide after reading whether it should be merged with digital literacy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ithewanderer (talk • contribs) 13:02, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

McGeddon wrote - "Can you point to any sources that discuss the concept of "Internet maturity" specifically by that name?" Reply: Sure. In addition to the references i shared in my article, following are some more links which talk about Internet maturity of organizations and Internet maturity of individuals:

Internet maturity of organizations

• http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=381804
• http://www.enterprise-ireland.com/en/Export-Assistance/Building-Export/Internet-Marketing-Unit.html
• http://www.uksg.org/sites/uksg.org/files/imported/presentations8/mulligan.pdf
• http://webpagesrus.net/articles_maturity.htm
• http://www.anticlue.net/archives/hospital-web-sites-in-the-news/stages-of-inter.htm
• http://www.atinternet.com/en/documents/the-maturity-model-social-media-marketing/
• http://www.slideshare.net/vtrhoads/web-maturity-models
• http://www.coyotecommunications.com/outreach/online3.html
• http://prosperosworld.com/countrys-internet-maturity-linked-economic-performance/2012/
• http://www.itpro.co.uk/609781/social-networking-to-drive-internet-maturity
• http://visualizing.org/visualizations/web-maturity
• http://www.assessmentmaturitymodel.org/other_maturity_models.html

Internet maturity of individuals

• http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=iMature
• http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Mature-Online-(for-Tweens)
• http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/raghupandey-2066503-students-become-internet-mature/
• https://www.gartner.com/doc/623333/uk-insurance-consumers-internet-maturity
• http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests/the-internet-maturity-level-test

I now hope you would now agree that scope of "Internet maturity" is much larger than Digital literacy. It deserves to be a separate article.. or at least readers should decide after reading that article whether it should be merged with digital literacy or not.--Ithewanderer (talk) 04:02, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Issue of reliable secondary sources outside Raghu pandey's book

Hi McGeddon. I will have to rest my case because that's the max i can do to convince you on the following point:
- Let readers decide whether this article should be merged with digital literacy or not.
Without being sarcastic, i admire your adherence and sincerity. But the baby just got thrown out with the bathwater :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ithewanderer (talk • contribs) 05:25, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Harassment

McGeddon, Please stop harassing me, what is wrong with you!!!!! Are you dong this because i am black? Thandi moyo (talk) 13:56, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

ANI-notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Thomas.W ^talk 14:10, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello

I was just trying to help wikipedia but i don't know how to do, because previous references are with numbers and when i put reference than it shows without Number. can you please tell me how can i give reference with number ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asad Seeker (talk • contribs) 08:28, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

you are brainless

how do you spend sooo much time in wikipedia? dont u have to go to work and do things to earn money and spend time with ur family?? how can spend sooo much time in wikipedia are u middle school guy??? how old r u??? --Thandi moyo2 (talk) 01:35, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Burj Khalifa

Hello. I watchlist the Burj Khalifa article and have a couple questions.

I have noticed you have been removing the claim that architect Fazlur Khan invented tubular design. Recently you have reverted here and here with the edit summary WP:BLOCKEVASION.

Is there something amiss with the claim itself? In addition to it being inline sourced, [1] for example, the claim is also stated in other related articles where no one contests it. (at the Fazlur Khan article itself and at Tube (structure))

Or, are you simply reverting because of the block evasion and because that's standard procedure in dealing with block evading sock puppets? That's fine though I do not see any mention in an spi for 202.134.13.136 (talk · contribs), so there is no obvious evidence other then the edits themselves.

2pacshakurr (talk · contribs) on the other hand, is listed at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Aalaan as I am sure you know. Which brings me to the other reason I dropped by. Currently his latest edit is standing at Burf Khalifa and is hidden from watchlists by an administrative action, FYI.

Thanks for your time and efforts and hope you can clarify all this for me. --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 13:12, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

barrel roll

hi. thanks for thanking me. but by now i am unsure again if i understood what a barrel roll is. i am thinking about removing the diagram again.... does it correctly depict a barrel roll? or is this rather another roll???. cheers. --Lommes (talk) 12:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Elite: Dangerous Premium Beta is actually Alpha 4

Keep in mind that Premium beta is a misnomer, it is actually between alpha/beta more closer to alpha as it's feature-wise the same as alpha 4, with bug fixes and an extra ship and station, but far from feature complete. The real Beta 1 is going to be released July 29, so to avoid confusion I changed it to pre-beta, but you might have a better solution. HyperspaceCloud (talk) 16:08, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Flying Saucers in the Moon

GREAT!!!

189.58.122.148 (talk) 19:20, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Flappy Bird source

My source was just as reliable as the other references on the Flappy Bird article. Two references on that page are tweets by Dong Nguyen, and four citations link to one referenced article, a Rolling Stone interview of Nguyen by David Kushner. The source I provided was a tweet from Kushner's Twitter that was retweeted by Nguyen on May 16 (the same day Kushner tweeted it) which you can see is the second-to-last tweet on Nguyen's Twitter page. Unless you can prove that this is not a reliable source, I will be adding the information and source back to the page tomorrow.

Papa Mama (talk) 00:24, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

blackmouth cur

I realized after posting the social media sites they were disqualified, but could you clarify why the three webpages http://www.blackmouthcur.com/ladner's_bmcs.htm, http://www.curtladnerblackmouthcurs.com, and http://lhladnerblackmouthcurs.com could not be referenced? I can duplicate the information from the websites, but that would create problems I believe with other breeders who may feel the Ladner's are monopolizing the Wiki page. If it would be easier I can create a historical person page for LH Ladner. He contributions to the canine world and to the general breeding of dogs is well respected by many through out the South and among many across the United States. Sorrycur (talk) 03:52, 22 July 2014 (UTC)sorrycur

Ramil Garifullin

I noticed that the tag of bad translation appeared immediately after adding my unsuccessful transfers (a few sentences), and before that in a few weeks this was not a problem. Overall, the article is translated by a professional translator--Irek Minnullin (talk) 18:55, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Recent Link Removals.

Hello McGeddon, Thank you for leaving a message regarding some links I inserted. I am new to Wikipedia, and the changes that I had made to the "security seal" page were made to support the fact that most of the content on this page is in fact out of date. The new ISO standard 17712:2013 that I made a reference to was published on 14th May 2014 which requires all High Security Bolt Seals and Cable Seals, Container Seals to be certified to that new standard in order to be compliant with other regulations such as C-TPAT guidelines.

The external links I provided to Mega Fortris Group supports the new standards as they are a global security seal manufacturer who have tested all of their high security seals to the new standards.

To conclude my updates to the content and the external link references were to give viewers the most up to date information. If I have made a mistake please advise on how to do this in the correct manner.

Kind Regards, Pperry1808.Pperry1808 (talk) 07:53, 24 July 2014 (UTC)--Pperry1808 (talk) 07:53, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Ramil Garifullin

Hi McGeddon! Today were biography added some proposals that fail translation and you immediately put the tag on the translation? If I remove these additions, the tag removed?--Irek Minnullin (talk) 18:53, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

The initial language of this article was English. . The translation is correct. I hope for your help and prompt.--Irek Minnullin (talk) 15:25, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

I am very grateful for your attention to the article. Perform all tags : posted subst:Duflu | pg = Ramil Garifullin | Language = English | Comments = . Translation is corrected, but are waiting for assistance. Hope for help. Beforehand grateful.--Irek Minnullin (talk) 15:33, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Fazlur Khan obsession

(@Sawol: may also care to note.) Do you think that Zorozro (talk · contribs) and Qesadila (talk · contribs) may be more socks of Aalaan (talk · contribs)? Note both doing pointless edits on July 25 - presumably to make themselves auto-confirmed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:14, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Speaking of which, edits by 180.149.31.166 and 180.149.7.242 also seem pretty strange. Graham87 15:21, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

You might also want to take a look at edits by 180.149.8.168 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and 180.149.8.169 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) where they edited the Skyscraper article a few days ago... another Aalaan block evasion? (Should I have added this to the SP investigation even though it is archived?) Astronaut (talk) 12:28, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Not really worth it, it's already been noted in a past SPI that Aalaan is using IPs in that range, among others, to evade his block instead of simply requesting an unblock. There's no point in blocking them as they're shared IPs that he's only ever using once; it's just a matter of watching the articles that he's evading his block to edit, and reverting those edits. (In this case it was just a failed attempt to make a new version of the Fazlur Khan article at "Fazlur Rahman Khan" the way he wanted it, but thanks for cleaning up the now-unnecessary redirect.) --McGeddon (talk) 07:53, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Image of trollface on Troll (Internet)

I'm not sure if this image is valid fair-use there. Please join WP:NFCR#File:Trollfacememe.jpg. DMacks (talk) 13:52, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

HTMLGIANT and Crowley article

Look at the large number of Wikipedia articles that cite HTMLGIANT. How is it not notable?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=htmlgiant&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go

2601:1:9280:271:FA1E:DFFF:FEE3:1FFE (talk) 16:45, 29 July 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1:9280:271:FA1E:DFFF:FEE3:1FFE (talk)

Gender stuff

Hello, McGeddon. You have new messages at DoctorJoeE's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Regarding that IP at Number of the beast

See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Themainman69. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:01, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, McGeddon. You have new messages at JMHamo's talk page.
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JMHamo (talk) 12:08, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Kerplunk

Hi. I see you recently undid my edit. However, some of the sticks in Kerplunk are blue. Google it if you don't believe me. Thisismyusername V (talk) 16:24, 1 August 2014 (UTC) Shall I revert your edits then? Thisismyusername V (talk) 16:41, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Re Brahma Kumaris article

Hi McGeddon, I can help but think your old friend Marriage of convenience has re-incarnated here, only now they are trying to carry out their same agenda one piece at a time rather than all in one edit - the lede drawn from leading encyclopaedia's mainly got removed because it was "written by a follower"[2][3]. I guess that's an improvement on their earlier edits. While these are their first edits, they are using tags and Wiki language like someone with experience. Makes me wonder why they are not using their previous account. Any advice/suggestions? Regards Danh108 (talk) 20:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi McGeddon, thank you for your post. I will read the policy again - it's partly because of that that I put this message up when I started editing on Wikipedia. I could have easily concealed this information if I wanted, and am certainly aware after a year and a half of editing the 'real life experience' is totally irrelevant to writing a good article. But the edits I reverted were ones deleting RS content. If you see me editing in a problematic way or not using RS, I am really happy to get your feedback/cautioning. BTW, should I be writing here or back on my talk page to reply to you (or it doesn't matter)? Danh108 (talk) 09:07, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Color

I'm disappointed with your closing of the discussion I was TRYING to have, with some other editors saying some particularly stupid things. Unfortunately, everybody who read it seemed to misunderstand what I was trying to achieve. I'm not sure about your position, but nobody has convinced me I was wrong in trying to raise the issue there. It is not my goal to disrupt Wikipedia, but to make it better. I wasn't trying to be confrontational. (At least one other editor certainly was. I hope that wasn't why you hatted the thread.) My proposal was a little radical. I do that sort of thing. Hatting the discussion prevents Wikipedia from improving in the area I was addressing. HiLo48 (talk) 21:02, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Help Appreciated

Help Appreciated

Hi Got all your deletes on the updates I tried to make to some Wiki pages yesterday. This is (was) my first time on here so figuring things out I guess. (I can't even figure out how to send you a message other than this way??). You said to "say it in your own words" which I'm happy to do, it just seemed to me that almost every other sentence in a Wiki article had a link or reference or Wiki is asking for more citation--I guess what I'm trying to say is that it seems quite difficult to add original content as someone is always asking for proof. I have added my own words on the "Dangers to the environment" on the Plastic Bags page. Hopefully this is acceptable? (And who gets to decide? Do you work for Wiki? Confused...) I would like to make additions/edits to those other pages I did yesterday (and more) that you deleted. What do I need to do to add a quote by a famous person to another person's Wiki page? I can't say that in my own words. If I add the date someone or some organization did something, did I have to cite a reference or is this my own words? I would like to make more page edits basically so I can get to 10 and be able to post an article. TDickinson (talk) 17:19, 6 August 2014 (UTC)