User talk:Darkness Shines

Note for IP and new editors

If you cannot post here due to protection, post at User talk:Darkness Shines/for IPs Darkness Shines (talk) 10:08, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

hamas

Why u deleted my edits which it's with the correct sources? Marco 2 en (talk) 11:28, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

You obviously have no consensus for that change, like I said, take it to the talk page. Darkness Shines (talk) 11:31, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I warned the IP editor. Sock? Say if you need help. Regards Widefox; talk 13:23, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

I've semi-protected this page for a month. DS, let me know if you would like it lifted or the duration changed. It would also be helpful if you could create an unprotected subpage for non-autoconfirmed users to edit, as per Wikipedia:Protection policy#User talk pages. If you do decide to create one, you don't have to watchlist it, but it would be good to check it from time to time, particularly if you are dealing with legitimate new editors anywhere. I won't force you to make a subpage like that for a month-long semi-protection, but I wouldn't feel comfortable saying the same thing for longer protections. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:43, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Subpage created, thanks. Darkness Shines (talk) 10:08, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

AE

I have posted a topic concerning you on WP:AE. Kingsindian (talk) 16:39, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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@Shrike: Thanks for that, I appreciate it. Darkness Shines (talk) 08:52, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Communism

You've removed four of my edits even though you just disagreed with one.

The sentence concerned is this:

By the beginning of the 21st century, states controlled by communist parties under a single-party system include the [[People's Republic of China]], Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, and North Korea

A communist party is one which follows communism; North Korea has removed all references to communism several years ago. According to reliable sources (Suh 1988, p. 313 & 139., Myers 2011, pp. 9, 11–12., Becker 2005, p. 66.; check Workers' Party of Korea article), the ruling party of North Korea is not any shade of left-wing politics but rather far-right. Additionally, all references to Marxism have been purged, the party now following its own ideology "Juche". The Workers' Party of Korea repudiated Marxism-Leninism (Kwak 2009, p. 20.). There is little connection between Juche, Marxism and Leninism (Suh 1988, p. 309.)

Reliable source Suh Dae-Sook argues: Whatever the name and however elaborate his claim, Kim's Juche idea is nothing more than xenophobic nationalism that has little relevance to communism.

What are your reliable sources? Please re-instate my edits if you are unable to produce evidence in favor of your case. Zozs (talk) 08:17, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Dateline North Korea: A Communist Holdout John Curtis Perry Foreign Policy, No. 80, Twentieth Anniversary (Autumn, 1990), pp. 172-191 Defecting to Snatch Victory from Defeat

Hazel Smith The World Today, Vol. 53, No. 3 (Mar., 1997), pp. 64-66 "the North Korean communist state. Korean nationalism has provided the cement of legitimacy for communist leadership much more so than socialism or self-reliance Juche the official doctrines of the state" "For decades North Korea has been one of the world's most secretive societies. It is one of the few countries still under nominally communist rule" Darkness Shines (talk) 08:30, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

The first sentence seems to be simply part of an opinion newsletter by an unknown author, who has no weight in the topic (in contrast to the massive weight and authority which is assigned to the authors I've brought in this topic). The second is just an article on the BBC. But even it claims that North Korea is only "nominally" under communist rule, even though nominally they've removed all references to communism (look it up). I think it's clear which sources win out in this case. I strongly suggest that you re-instate at least three of my four edits (which you've not argued against) and that you argue your case in the talk page, instead of randomly reverting. If you notice the context of the Communism article, naming North Korea in that place just makes no sense there. Zozs (talk) 08:36, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

John Curtis Perry, so no revert, North Korea is communist. Darkness Shines (talk) 08:41, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Yo DS, with all due respect, didn't Curtis write in 1990? Also, when are you going to appeal that tban, mate? You're desperately needed .... Cheers, Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:07, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

The Kwak source just says "He (Kim Jong Il) rejects some of Marxist-Leninist basic principles". In an essay entitled... "Let Us Advance Under the Banner of Marxism-Leninism and the Juche idea". There's nothing there about "The Workers' Party of Korea repudiated Marxism-Leninism". You're making stuff up. You're blatantly misrepresenting a source Zozs.Volunteer Marek (talk) 04:28, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Suspected as much. @Zozs:, you're going to have to do a little more careful reading before making half-baked accusations. Vanamonde93 (talk) 05:10, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

The evidence is overwhelming and the assertion that "North Korea is communist" is obviously anything but pure fact. Do you understand the context of this? He randomly reverted four of my edits, only one of them was about North Korea, and based himself on his own personal opinions. Zozs (talk) 05:14, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

It was progressively repudiated. Back then only some principles had been rejected, and all references to Marxism-Leninism were completely purged a few years ago. Look it up. Also, there's many other sources to back it up; you're using a pars pro toto fallacy. Zozs (talk) 05:11, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

In fact, in the Kwak source, in the page which I cited (20), it says: "Kim Jong-Il parted company with Marxism-Leninism" Zozs (talk) 05:17, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Again, you're taking it out of context. It doesn't say he "parted". It says he "parts" on one particular point. And it says he does so "respectfully" in an essay entitled "Let Us Advance Under the Banner of Marxism-Leninism and the Juche idea". Does the proposal to "advance under the banner of Marxism-Leninism" sound like "repudiation of Marxism-Leninism"? You're misrepresenting the source again.

And I'm not committing some fallacy, I'm just pointing out you're full of it.Volunteer Marek (talk) 05:28, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Ping

Ok, my apologies. It is my normal way of replying, and nobody else seems to mind. I will take extra care in the future. Kingsindian (talk) 19:44, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Harassment of sorts

Hello Darkness Shines, I just got a "this is a required step for their behaviour to be investigated"[1] notice by someone I've been in disagreement with over a few things. Seems to me more like harassment and finger waving than anything. Is this considered desirable behavior? I'm asking you since you seem to be in contact with them. MarciulionisHOF (talk) 16:07, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

That is a pretty clueless notification, people do not need to be informed, and I only notify people if they have been disruptive, nor will there be any investigation, no idea where that comes from. Unless KI is planning on an AE request I would not worry about this. Darkness Shines (talk) 16:24, 27 August 2014 (UTC)