User talk:Visviva: Difference between revisions

Hi, I just wanted to mention that I'll try looking at your article-count code when I can get time. So far I've managed to set up Python 3 on my machine and have made the necessary syntax changes, i.e, no useful progress but an interesting exercise for me. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 00:27, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I've just updated the code page to reflect what I'm currently running (slower than my older version, but I guess there's no help for it, since the oldest revisions aren't reliably placed first in the XML files). -- Visviva (talk) 00:36, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if you want to upgrade to Python 3, but since I made the conversion and a list of the necessary changes, fwiw those are here. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 15:52, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Damyang

Hi, Visviva ! I don't know how to find the Korea-group page (As in almost all Wik. things organizational, I have no idea how to find it -- I must think totally differently from the organizers of Wik.), so I am sending this comment to You in the hopes that You can either take up the cudgel or send the missive on. The Damyang page is written in quaint English. While, endearing, it is not appropriate for Wik. Maybe some-one can change it a bit. Kdammers (talk) 08:32, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you mean; I've done a quick slash-and-burn, but it could probably use more work. I imagine you're looking for Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea. -- Visviva (talk) 07:21, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Back in the day . . .

Hello Visviva -- I happened notice your name attached to an edit made earlier today. So, old friend, here we are, neither of us bothering much with Wiktionary any more, but still a couple of not fully recovered wikiholics. Good to know you're out and about. -- WikiPedant (talk) 06:58, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey hey! Great to see you again. -- Visviva (talk) 07:15, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sexual difference article

Hello, Visviva. I see that you created the Sexual difference article; I first came across it by seeing this edit in WP:STiki. Looking at this link, you redirected the term to Sex differences in humans, and then you decided to create the Sexual difference article. From my viewpoint, your creation of the article is unneeded WP:Content forking. We already have the Sex differences in humans and Sex and gender distinction articles for this content; we don't need another article to address what you've added on the topic. Since WP:Anatomy recently got through working out how to cover sexual differentiation and sex difference topics on Wikipedia (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anatomy/Archive 7#Sexual differentiation articles), I will take this matter there for more opinions. Flyer22 (talk) 17:53, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would have thought the hatnote would address any possibility of confusion; the topic of sexual difference, especially as developed by Irigaray et al., is well-known and has very little to do with anatomical characteristics. The sex differences in humans article doesn't deal with philosophical or normative aspects, and it's hard to see how it could without becoming entirely unmanageable. I created the article because when I first linked to sexual difference I was astounded to find it a redlink, and even more astounded to find that there was no article on the actual topic at all; I therefore redirected temporarily to the least bad alternative, but that article's coverage really has only the remotest connection to the topic. Would a move to something like "sexual difference in philosophy" be satisfactory? FR has Différence des sexes en psychanalyse, which is basically on the same topic, but it seems a bit narrow; one doesn't generally think of Irigaray et al. as psychoanalysts. The sexual difference and gender difference could then direct to a dab page, which they probably should in any case... -- Visviva (talk) 18:06, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to philosophy, the terms sexual difference and gender difference refer to topics that are covered by the Sex differences in humans article, and that article has a Medicine, Physiology, Psychology and Sociology section; the Sociology section has subsections. Of course, that article deals with normative aspects. And a Philosophy section to address your content could easily be added to that article. I'm not in favor of unneeded WP:Content forking or creating unneeded WP:Spinout articles. Per WP:Content fork, we should strive to keep aspects of a topic in one article instead of causing readers to go to multiple articles...unless necessary. And like WP:Spinout states, there is no need for haste. A WP:Spinout article should ideally only be created when needed; I don't see that there is yet a need for a Sexual difference in philosophy article. That topic can fit fine in the Sex differences in humans article until, if ever, a Sexual difference in philosophy article is needed. Look at the other topics in that article that don't have their own Wikipedia articles. And when it comes to redirects and disambiguation pages, WP:Primary topic is a good guideline to follow.

On a side note: Do you mind if I transport our latest replies to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anatomy#Sexual difference article, and that we continue this discussion there instead of here at your talk page? I prefer to keep discussions centralized (WP:TALKCENT). Flyer22 (talk) 18:28, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you replied there; I'll link to your latest reply there, and repeat my "18:28, 14 January 2015 (UTC)" reply there. Flyer22 (talk) 18:33, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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 :I would have thought the hatnote would address any possibility of confusion; the topic of sexual difference, especially as developed by Irigaray et al., is well-known and has very little to do with anatomical characteristics. The [[sex differences in humans]] article doesn't deal with philosophical or normative aspects, and it's hard to see how it could without becoming entirely unmanageable.  I created the article because when I first linked to [[sexual difference]] I was astounded to find it a redlink, and even more astounded to find that there was no article on the actual topic at all; I therefore redirected temporarily to the least bad alternative, but that article's coverage really has only the remotest connection to the topic. Would a move to something like "[[sexual difference in philosophy]]" be satisfactory? FR has [[:fr:Différence des sexes en psychanalyse|Différence des sexes en psychanalyse]], which is basically on the same topic, but it seems a bit narrow; one doesn't generally think of Irigaray et al. as psychoanalysts.  The [[sexual difference]] and [[gender difference]] could then direct to a dab page, which they probably should in any case... -- [[User:Visviva|Visviva]] ([[User talk:Visviva#top|talk]]) 18:06, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
-::In addition to philosophy, the terms ''sexual difference'' and ''gender difference'' refer to topics that are covered by the Sex differences in humans article, and that article has a Medicine, Physiology, Psychology and Sociology section; the Sociology section has subsections. Of course, that article deals with normative aspects. And a Philosophy section to address your content could easily be added to that article. I'm not in favor of unneeded WP:Content forking or creating unneeded [[WP:Spinout]] articles. Per WP:Content fork, we should strive to keep aspects of a topic in one article instead of causing readers to go to multiple articles...unless necessary. And like WP:Spinout states, there is no need for haste. A WP:Spinout article should ideally only be created when needed; I don't see that there is yet a need for a Sexual difference in philosophy article. That topic can fit fine in the Sex differences in humans article until, if ever, a Sexual difference in philosophy article is needed. Look at the other topics in that article that don't have their own Wikipedia articles. And when it comes to redirects, [[WP:Primary topic]] is a good guideline to follow.
+::In addition to philosophy, the terms ''sexual difference'' and ''gender difference'' refer to topics that are covered by the Sex differences in humans article, and that article has a Medicine, Physiology, Psychology and Sociology section; the Sociology section has subsections. Of course, that article deals with normative aspects. And a Philosophy section to address your content could easily be added to that article. I'm not in favor of unneeded WP:Content forking or creating unneeded [[WP:Spinout]] articles. Per WP:Content fork, we should strive to keep aspects of a topic in one article instead of causing readers to go to multiple articles...unless necessary. And like WP:Spinout states, there is no need for haste. A WP:Spinout article should ideally only be created when needed; I don't see that there is yet a need for a Sexual difference in philosophy article. That topic can fit fine in the Sex differences in humans article until, if ever, a Sexual difference in philosophy article is needed. Look at the other topics in that article that don't have their own Wikipedia articles. And when it comes to redirects and disambiguation pages, [[WP:Primary topic]] is a good guideline to follow.
 ::On a side note: Do you mind if I transport our latest replies to [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anatomy#Sexual difference article]], and that we continue this discussion there instead of here at your talk page? I prefer to keep discussions centralized ([[WP:TALKCENT]]). [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 18:28, 14 January 2015 (UTC)