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November 2014

Hello, I'm TopGun. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Muhammad bin Qasim seemed less than neutral to me, so I removed it for now. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. lTopGunl (talk) 18:43, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Sir!

Indians have tradition of work ethic, working hard for their money and food. Arabians have tradition of banditry, piracy and looting!! This needs to be told!

thanks! Jaggajat (talk) 19:52, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Persist with this attitude and you will soon be blocked from editing Wikipedia. We are not a soapbox. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:06, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Allright! In order to make it more "neutral" I will get at least 5 cited sources from the Arabian history written by Arabians themselves!

Jaggajat (talk) 21:19, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

TopGun

Here is one that explains that Qasim invaded India on the orders of Caliphate to loot. http://www.dawn.com/news/1098562

Here is one from Chachnama (Arabian history)., where 30,000 captured were sent to Baghdad to be sold as slaves. http://voiceofdharma.org/books/mssmi/ch3.htm Chachnama, Kalichbeg, 154. Raja Dahir�s daughters also were counted among slave girls, 196. E.D., I, 172-73 gives the number of captives as 30,000.

I will not edit the page until you say so!! I can provide lots of cited work!

thanks Jaggajat (talk) 21:31, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello TopGun Are you pakistani? Jaggajat (talk) 21:32, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

This is a global encyclopaedia and not your petty local politics. I suggest you read WP:CIVILITY, or else you will end up reported to Wikipedia administrators. kashmiri ^TALK 09:42, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

December 2014

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Why did you call it a "Vandal" The fact that his grand parent was a thief is researched by none other than Khushwant Singh.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1070630/asp/opinion/story_7992715.asp

" The third one, Kanhaya Lal, and his wife, Indirani, had three sons and five daughters. Kanhaya Lal was Iqbal’s grandfather. His son, Rattan Lal, converted to Islam and was given the name Nur Mohammad. He married a Muslim woman — Imam Bibi. The Saprus disowned Rattan Lal and severed all connections with him. There are different versions of Rattan Lal’s conversion. The one given to me by Syeda Hameed, who has translated some of Iqbal’s poetry into English, maintains that Rattan Lal was the revenue collector of the Afghan governor of Kashmir. He was caught embezzling money. The governor offered him a choice: he should either convert to Islam or be hanged. Rattan Lal chose to stay alive. When the Afghan governor fled from Kashmir to escape its takeover by the Sikhs, Rattan Lal migrated to Sialkot. Imam Bibi was evidently a Sialkoti Punjabi. Iqbal was born in Sialkot on November 9, 1877. As often happens, the first generation of converts are more kattar than others. Iqbal thus grew up to be a devout Muslim."

Jaggajat (talk) 19:51, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

If you read it carefully you will see that Khushwant Singh is only referring a tale that he heard from someone. This is absolutely NOT a verifiable fact that can go into an encyclopaedic article. If you continue with anti-Islam and anti-Pakistan edits, you will be blocked permanently. kashmiri ^TALK 01:12, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did to Aurangzeb, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 20:19, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Amritsar. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:01, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Sorry!! Please wait for at least 30 minutes as I was still editing it! It is all good now!

thanks Jaggajat (talk) 21:32, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Your edits to Guru Arjan have been reverted, as you added multiple duplications of links. Generally, a link should appear only once in an article. See WP:OVERLINKING. Apuldram (talk) 21:57, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Ahmad Sirhindi. Your sources are also pretty much garbage. NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:42, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Sir NeilN,

That was not my personal commentary but direct quotation from Sita Ram Goel (check wiki for his information) and I only copy/pasted from this http://www.investigateislam.com/violent_truth_behind_the_sufi_ma.htm It has been proven beyond doubt that ISIS, Wahabis, Tablighis, Deobandi quote Ahmad Sirhindi to terrorize innocents around the world. Now you have this quote on his page "Yohanan Friedmann has argued against communalist interpretations of Sirhindi's thought specifically in South Asian nationalist historiography, pointing out that there is no evidence that Sirhindi or his disciples spread "anti-Hindu sentiments wherever they went." [13]" Then why can't you have quotes from the people who have researched his work and published books in english. Does this means that wikipedia supports ISIS and terrorists? Jaggajat (talk) 14:13, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

@Jaggajat:. Before you start contributing to Wikipedia, please read the following pages: WP:NEUTRAL, WP:V, WP:RS. The website you quoted promotes only anti-Islam views and as such is not a source of any reliable information because of its WP:BIAS. kashmiri ^TALK 22:14, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Once again! If you are not reading me or understanding me!!

Ahmad Sirhindi was responsible for murder of 5th Sikh Guru!!! All I want to do is put this fact on his page. He himself wrote letters before and after the murder!! How is this "Bias" and "Anti Islam". It is because of Ahmad Sirhindi encouragement that we had later Waliullah and Wahabi creating the "Salafi, Deobandi, Wahabi, Tablighi" Islam which is now in 2014 responsible for 99.999% of the terrorism around the world!! WHY CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THIS SIMPLE FACT? Jaggajat (talk) 14:51, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

 Comment: I am not sure it will change your views, but in recent years only around 5% of acts of terrorism within the United States had any links with Islam. In ~95% of these acts, terrorists had entirely different affiliations and motivations. Read here: Domestic terrorism in the United States. For description of more forms of terrorism, including state terrorism, see Terrorism. I also encourage you to read Human rights abuses in Jammu and Kashmir for a clear-cut example of state terrorism geographically close to your country.

See, man, Wikipedia is not a propaganda tube of religious/political/national/etc., fundamentalists. Rather, Wikipedia tries to present things in the way as objective as possible - which, I agree, may sometimes cause shock or resentment with those who get to know the world only through official government propaganda or from hate websites. kashmiri ^TALK 12:16, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

To me it looks like that Wikipedia is enrouraging the ISIS type Islamic fanaticism by withholding specific information about the bigoted leaders in past who have encouraged this type of behavior., and I am going to raise this issue in public main stream media of around the world (including India and Pakistan). I have been donating to Wikipedia which I will stop and make sure that all of my patrons (whom I encouraged to donate to wikipedia) will stop too!! unless Put this fact on Ahmad Sirhindi page that he was a fanatic bigot responsible for murders of innocent non-muslims. You cannot spread education without TRUTH., Truth is that Ahmad Sirhindi and Aurungzeb were Bigots!!You have a week!! thanks for listening! Jaggajat (talk) 14:55, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

To me, it looks like you wish to use Wikipedia as a soapbox. Please stop. Following the policies Kashmiri listed for you is not optional. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:14, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

If I may ask! What credentials/Authority/rights do the "Kashmiri Arabian" have to delete my edits ? If you don't know me! Just for your information., I have been active on Internet since it started and have over 25 years of Information Technology experience ! It is just now that I have noticed the issues with Wikipedia especially with the documents depicting History (of Islam). These same people like Kashmiri have been going around deleting/editing the documents on Sikhism! I have provided links and citation on Ahmad Sirhindi!! which Kashmiri deleted (Due to his/her biases)., I won't put them back and I request you or Kashmiri to put them back!

Jaggajat (talk) 15:22, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Our "credentials" are that we know Wikipedia policies and guidelines - in this case, what are reliable sources. An article, "The Violent Truth Behind The Sufi Mask" from a hate site is not such a source. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:37, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

There is a clear link between Ahmad Sirhindi to Waliullah to Wahabi to Taliban/Deoband/ISIS at this modern time. By not disclosing this fact you are actually helping terrorists.

Jaggajat (talk) 14:07, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

January 2015

Please do not add or change content, as you did to Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. : Noyster (talk), 15:18, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

One more edit like this and I will ask that you be blocked from editing. Final warning. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:57, 17 January 2015 (UTC)