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:Sigh, who screwed it up again? We spent so much time on that section. ―<span style="background:#8FF;border:solid 1px;border-radius:8px;box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px"> [[User:Padenton|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;color:#C00">Padenton</span>]]|[[User talk:Padenton|✉]] </span> 14:06, 23 April 2015 (UTC) |
:Sigh, who screwed it up again? We spent so much time on that section. ―<span style="background:#8FF;border:solid 1px;border-radius:8px;box-shadow:darkgray 2px 2px 2px"> [[User:Padenton|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;color:#C00">Padenton</span>]]|[[User talk:Padenton|✉]] </span> 14:06, 23 April 2015 (UTC) |
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::Because it was done when none of these policies were pointed now. Now we know that why this sort of content fails to be encyclopedic. [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone</span>''']] <small>([[User talk:OccultZone#Top|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OccultZone|Contributions]] • [[Special:Log/OccultZone|Log]])</small> 14:12, 23 April 2015 (UTC) |
::Because it was done when none of these policies were pointed now. Now we know that why this sort of content fails to be encyclopedic. [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone</span>''']] <small>([[User talk:OccultZone#Top|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/OccultZone|Contributions]] • [[Special:Log/OccultZone|Log]])</small> 14:12, 23 April 2015 (UTC) |
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:::Egads OccultZone, why do you want to bring this up yet again. You, Human and everybody else [[Talk:Rape in India/Archive 1#Unproven.2Fnon-notable allegations|agreed on the changes]]. NOTNEWS was brought up before. It also doesn't violate NOTNEWS and SOAPBOX. A Country (not politicians) is issuing a [[travel advisory]] and as they issue travel advisories all the time, they are experts. How does it fail NOTNEWS? |
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:::Before this goes any further, I highly recommend you bring an outside person in to mediate this, so it doesn't go downhill like the past ones. [[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]] ([[User talk:Bgwhite|talk]]) 22:36, 23 April 2015 (UTC) |
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Rape_in_India#Legal_response took a lot of its content from ncbi.nlm.nih.gov. Rape in India#Potential abuse concerns took from [1]. Please review our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 23:02, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Lead
There are still problem with the lead. Prior 6 March.[2] It read probably better than how it is doing now.
- Some of the main problems with the current lead includes:
- "The National Crime Records Bureau of India suggests", there is clearly no need to attribute the obvious facts. We don't write "According to Mr. X, 2+2 is 4".
- "Indian parliamentarians have expressed concern that the majority of rape cases go unreported", isn't it worldwide concern? How it is differing from rest of the countries? It is those stats, that have shared some uncommon aspects with other countries that's why they deserve a separate mention. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 23:03, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- The NCRB needs to be mentioned because it is the official, most referred to source for reported rape rates. The older version too mentioned NCRB. The next sentence can be written in many different ways. The mention of "Indian parliamentarians" implies that the issue of unreported cases has attracted the attention of highest law making body in their country – so I am okay with it. M Tracy Hunter (talk) 01:13, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- @VictoriaGrayson - a sentence about unreported cases is significant and relevant in the lead, WP:LEAD. If the consensus is to not have "Indian parliamentarians" phrase, I am okay with it as well. M Tracy Hunter (talk) 15:02, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Another section
@M Tracy Hunter: and @VictoriaGrayson:, what you have to say for Rape in India#Tourist advisories? It violates WP:NOTNEWS, and since it is having the opinions of politicians who are not expert in this field, it is also violating WP:SOAPBOX. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 09:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm agree with OccultZone. --Human3015 09:46, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yup, I also agree.VictoriaGraysonTalk 12:45, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm agree with OccultZone. --Human3015 09:46, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
This seems to have been discussed before and the outcome is what is in the Wikipedia piece https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rape_in_India/Archive_1#Discussing_Consensus_about_Travel_Advisory_Writeup_and_section_re-org Why the re-hash now? PediaAcc (talk) 14:00, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- Sigh, who screwed it up again? We spent so much time on that section. ― Padenton|✉ 14:06, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- Because it was done when none of these policies were pointed now. Now we know that why this sort of content fails to be encyclopedic. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:12, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- Egads OccultZone, why do you want to bring this up yet again. You, Human and everybody else agreed on the changes. NOTNEWS was brought up before. It also doesn't violate NOTNEWS and SOAPBOX. A Country (not politicians) is issuing a travel advisory and as they issue travel advisories all the time, they are experts. How does it fail NOTNEWS?
- Before this goes any further, I highly recommend you bring an outside person in to mediate this, so it doesn't go downhill like the past ones. Bgwhite (talk) 22:36, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
- Because it was done when none of these policies were pointed now. Now we know that why this sort of content fails to be encyclopedic. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 14:12, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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