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I have redirected the article to [[TechSoup Global]] as this is essentially [[WP:BLP1E]]. I would be glad if someone could show me otherwise. --[[User:Lemongirl942|Lemongirl942]] ([[User talk:Lemongirl942|talk]]) 08:44, 2 July 2016 (UTC) |
I have redirected the article to [[TechSoup Global]] as this is essentially [[WP:BLP1E]]. I would be glad if someone could show me otherwise. --[[User:Lemongirl942|Lemongirl942]] ([[User talk:Lemongirl942|talk]]) 08:44, 2 July 2016 (UTC) |
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:I agree with the blar. I've gone through a recent re-write of this article that was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daniel_Ben-Horin&diff=799370312&oldid=786506058 submitted] by a COI editor, with lots of refs, and [http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/TechSoup-sees-upside-for-nonprofits-in-downturn-3247111.php this SFGate article] was the only independent reliable secondary source I could find with anything significant about Ben-Horin. Unfortunately, there really isn't much in there of biographical relevance. It's just him talking a bit about TechSoup. I do not think he should have a standalone article. --[[User:DrFleischman|Dr. Fleischman]] ([[User talk:DrFleischman|talk]]) 04:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC) |
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February 2015
Daniel Ben-Horin's original page has 36+ citations to reputable international publications, newspapers (including The New York Times) and several books establishing this individual's accomplishments and reputation as an innovator in the field. The Huffington Post, for example, is such a publication, not just a "blog," as is the Stanford Social Innovation Review. The stature of the international nonprofit this individual has founded is also demonstrated. Whether or not I personally am acquainted with this individual is irrelevant as the facts and citations speak for themselves. The description in the article does not use 'pr' language or 'puffery,' as you state, but simply states the facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glennhirsch (talk • contribs) 20:32, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Glenn. I made 15 edits to this article, and for only one of them did I refer to blogs, and for only one of them did I refer to "'pr' language or 'puffery.'" Yet you mass reverted all 15 of my edits, including the tags I added, which isn't productive. If you disagree with specific edits, please raise the issue(s) here are we can address them one by one. (And don't remove tags until they're resolved.) To get things started I'll address two issues that I understand you to be raising:
- Stehle quote: I called this quote "puffery" and removed it on neutrality grounds because it seemed undue. Generally, the fact that a subject won an award may be noteworthy, but the praise that the subject received during the awards ceremony is generally not noteworthy. People giving awards say all sorts of complimentary things; we can't include a quote for every award given to every awardee.
- Huffington Post and Stanford Social Innovation Review: The fact that the subject blogs on these fora may be noteworthy. I'm restoring those bits. However, links to Ben-Horin's specific blog posts are inappropriate. Generally, Wikipedia's yardstick for noteworthiness/notability is coverage by independent reliable sources.
- I hope this helps. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 06:20, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
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Redirected to TechSoup Global
I have redirected the article to TechSoup Global as this is essentially WP:BLP1E. I would be glad if someone could show me otherwise. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:44, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
- I agree with the blar. I've gone through a recent re-write of this article that was submitted by a COI editor, with lots of refs, and this SFGate article was the only independent reliable secondary source I could find with anything significant about Ben-Horin. Unfortunately, there really isn't much in there of biographical relevance. It's just him talking a bit about TechSoup. I do not think he should have a standalone article. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 04:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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