Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 April 3

April 3

Category:Transit authorities with hybrid buses

• Propose deleting Category:Transit authorities with hybrid buses - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: Useless category. Hybrid buses are extremely common, and running them is not a notable characteristic of any given transit agency. (Compare, for example, to trolleybuses, which are a less common and more notable vehicle type due to the infrastructure and publicity they come with.) This category was created in 2008 when hybrid buses were uncommon; in 2018 it's no longer useful. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:27, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

• Delete not defining for the transit agencies, as these properties will come and go. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:09, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Croix de Guerre (France)

Propose renaming

• Category:Recipients of the Croix de guerre (France) to Category:Recipients of the Croix de Guerre (France)
• Category:Female recipients of the Croix de guerre (France)‎ to Category:Female recipients of the Croix de Guerre (France)‎
• Category:Recipients of the Croix de guerre 1914–1918 (France)‎ to Category:Recipients of the Croix de Guerre 1914–1918 (France)‎
• Category:Recipients of the Croix de guerre 1939–1945 (France) to Category:Recipients of the Croix de Guerre 1939–1945 (France)

Nominator's rationale: capitalise per head article Croix de Guerre, with the dab "(France)" to distinguish from it the Belgian decoration known as the Croix de guerre or Oorlogskruis: War Cross (Belgium).

NGrams show a preference for lowercase in recent French [1] but capitalisation predominant in English.[2] (thanks to @Fayenatic for the research and the page move[3] to the capitalised form, but since it was moved without discussion the categories are ineligible for a speedy rename). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:18, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Category:Flagship Program

• Propose renaming Category:Flagship Program to Category:Large Strategic Science Missions

Nominator's rationale: "Flagship Program" is a misnomer, and no such NASA program actually exists. For this reason, I also recently moved the page Flagship Program to Large Strategic Science Missions. NilsTycho (talk) 16:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment, correct me if I'm wrong but based on the main article and on the articles in the category it seems like this is subjective classification, suitable for an article but not suitable for a category. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Category:Film schools in Quebec

• Propose merging Category:Film schools in Quebec to Category:Film schools in Canada

Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT which does not meet the conditions required to qualify for an exemption to WP:OCLOCATION: the Category:Film schools in Canada parent is not large enough to require subcategorization by province, and the location is not itself a WP:DEFINING characteristic. Being located in Quebec does not change the notability context of a film school, compared to being located in Ontario or British Columbia -- note, for example, that one of the three institutions here has two campuses, one of which is in Ontario. And it's not a question of language, either, because only one of the three institutions filed here is francophone. So there's simply no need for Quebec to have its own dedicated subcategory here, when no other Canadian province does. Bearcat (talk) 13:46, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

• Merge per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 01:00, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose as nominated. No reason given for merging to only one of the 3 parents of Category:Film schools in Quebec. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

• All three articles are already elsewhere in the tree of Category:Schools in Quebec and directly in Category:Cinema of Quebec, so no need to merge to the other two parents. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:39, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Category:GMTV presenters and reporters

• Propose deleting Category:GMTV presenters and reporters - Template:Lc1
  
• Propose deleting Category:ITV Breakfast presenters and reporters - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: WP:PERFCAT --woodensuperman 11:46, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose as nominated:
  1. No reason is given for deletion, rather than merger to the parent Category:British television presenters.
  2. There are 8 by-broadcaster subcats of Category:British television presenters. No reason is given for removing only 2 of the 8. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:58, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Baekje

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: rename all. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:09, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

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• Propose renaming Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Baekje to Category:Tang dynasty generals at war against Baekje
• Propose renaming Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Goguryeo‎ to Category:Tang dynasty generals at war against Goguryeo
• Propose renaming Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Göktürks‎ to Category:Tang dynasty generals at war against the Göktürks
• Propose renaming Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Tibet‎ to Category:Tang dynasty generals at war against Tibet
• Propose renaming Category:Tang dynasty generals related to Xueyantuo to Category:Tang dynasty generals at war against Xueyantuo

Nominator's rationale: rename to clarify what this is about. Initially I thought it was about generals who had Baekje relatives. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support per nom. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 12:51, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

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The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Big Sky football team navigational boxes

• Propose deleting Category:Big Sky football team navigational boxes - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: These navboxes are already grouped at Category:NCAA Division I FCS team navigational boxes There's no need to further subdivide them by conference. Jweiss11 (talk) 04:58, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment I'm not an FCS editor, but isn't this just an administrative category like a lot of existing ones at Category:American college sports navigational boxes by conference?—Bagumba (talk) 11:58, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@Bagumba: well, it's an administrative category, but not like those other ones. The sub-categories of Category:American college sports navigational boxes by conference contain navboxes whose subject is a conference or a conference-wide element of a conference. The nominated category contains navboxes that are team-specific. To my knowledge the nominee is the only category of its type. Jweiss11 (talk) 23:16, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Neutral Understood. I don't see it as problematic for this category to exist to group teams from the same conference, and think it might be a good idea to do the same categorization for all conferences. However, I can also understand the desire to delete this if this is the exception and will never be applied to other conferences.—Bagumba (talk) 12:56, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Again, it's an outlier, one-of-kind category created by editor who didn't appear to be working for consistency across the category tree. Do Category:NCAA Division I FCS team navigational boxes and like need to be subdivided by conference? I think that's unnecessary and would introduce more administrative overhead as teams change conferences—which happen more often than teams change divisional classification. It also would create confusion, as we had above, between categories for templates about a conference and categories for templates about members of a conference. Jweiss11 (talk) 22:33, 5 April 2018 (UTC)