User talk:Mesmerus

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Again, welcome! EricSerge (talk) 14:12, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! ^_^ Yeah, I've had an account since '08 simply because I wanted to be able to contribute when I found some info that wasn't yet up on Wikipedia, but didn't want my IP plastered everywhere (for the general public). I am kind of familiar (especially by this point) with MediaWiki markups, but I abide by the phrase "Always happy to Elmer and be Elmered", and Wikipedia is no exception.

To be honest, back in '08 I didn't even know what a talk page was - I strictly just wanted to be able to contribute without plastering my IP to the public! XD

Thank you for the welcome, and those links are always a help - I used to have them as bookmarks I believe, but then I had a failure with my laptops's GPU and had to get a new one. No biggie though. :P

And thanks for the cookies, a good warm cookie is always excellent! :D Mesmerus (talk) 01:51, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Re: Silly Request!

Thanks a lot Mesmerus!!! Will do what you told me.. And about the pic, well I had no specific pic in my mind but it could be a jack in a box type pic or something else.. If ure making it then plz choose what you wish!! And thanks again !!!! The Wikimon (talk) 17:18, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

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Hughleys logo

I uploaded a new version on the logo, it probably still needs some tweaking, but I manually re-draw most graphics through Inkscape. Youtube has some really good tutorials for the inkscape program. Let me know if you need any help. FOX 52 (talk) 03:45, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:The Hughleys.svg

A tag has been placed on File:The Hughleys.svg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image page for a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:11, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I am unable to find the CSD in question; File:The Hughleys.svg is still in use on other pages/articles, locally and globally. If the CSD in question is to remove the File entirely, please let me know how I can contest it (unless it has already gone through or been trashed, as I do not see the CSD notification on the page or talk page), as the file is still in use. If the CSD is only related to my backdated versions, and not the current version of the file, then I have no qualms with a CSD on them, as the current version is far superior than mine. Mesmerus (talk) 13:07, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

F2 means the file is on Commons. It means that a description page isn't needed locally anymore.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:13, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I see - being that the data should be transcluded from the Commons description, that makes sense & explains why I do not see the CSD (it probably already went through, and what I'm seeing is the same, just mirrored info from Commons). Thanks for cleaning it up then! Mesmerus (talk) 13:17, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Ribbons

Hey, Mesmerus, I see you've been making Ribbons (which, obviously, I use) and I'm very appreciative. I'd just like to point you to the discussion at File talk:Article_Rescue_Ribbon_Shadowed.png. It seems that the colors are inconsistent with the older ribbons for the same 'star. But I really like the work you're doing. Achowat (talk) 08:26, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks for the point - I actually only watch the pages on Wikimedia Commons, which is where I've been uploading them, so if you hadn't pointed, I'd have never known about that! As I said there as well, it was just an oversight, and I'll correct it when I next fire up GIMP to do some more! Thanks! Mesmerus (talk) 13:37, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

This is now fixed - thanks again for bringing that to my attention! :) Mesmerus (talk) 14:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

While I'm bringing things to your attention, I just thought I'd leave a note about your gallery. The American Dad logo is a non-free use image which shouldn't be kept in the User: namespace. I know, it did of sucks that we can't more easily demonstrate the files we upload when they're non-free. If you have any questions, throw me another {{Talkback}}. Achowat (talk) 20:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I'd completely forgotten about that (can definitely agree that it sucks); I had intended on making that a Link, since I can't technically keep the picture there, as it's non-free fair use, but somewhere along the line forgot to go back and put that in - you'd think I'd have remembered when putting the ribbon logos in there! XD Thanks for the reminder! Mesmerus (talk) 03:42, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey, we all lose our heads some time, no worries. I do really like the ribbons though. If you were looking to make some up that would definitely be put to good use, I could point you in the right direction (hint, not so subtle hint). Those two only exist as textured, and I much prefer the Shadowed style. Hell, there might even be something in it for you. Achowat (talk) 06:52, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Aye, no offence in any sense taken; I do plan to do more as I've more free time (as I also prefer the shadowed ones the best), and am literally just working down the list, filling in where there's blanks. If I manage through it all at some point, I'll likely go back through and redo the ones that aren't the same size, shape, etc. (as I've noticed a few like that). Just started doing them in spare/free time I had, being that I consider myself decent (at a minimum) with GIMP/Inkscape! :) Mesmerus (talk) 02:12, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

I got through a few more this evening (although I found I had to skip the Audio Barnstar Ribbon for now; I'll have to do that when I have a bit more time to do it by itself, as it'll take a bit more work to make it look cool), but also skipped ahead to do the two you specifically requested too. With any luck, I'll be able to chug on through all the ones on the page within a month; I'm mainly doing this because I noticed not one of the three types are 'complete' as it was, for all the ones listed on the page - some have only a mini, others have only a textured, and others have a mixture (though I don't think I've seen one with just a shadowed yet). And I happen to like the shadowed best as well, so I figured if I was gonna complete them for any one type (so they all matched upon completion), it should be that one. ;) Mesmerus (talk) 07:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that you moved the BoSox Ribbon up to WikiProject awards. I have a sandbox where I'm trying to fix the formatting of the whole Ribbon page. Thanks for making my job harder by adding new images during . Achowat (talk) 05:28, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I wish I'd known that; your sandbox is much more organized than the live page; I could have been (and will going forward) used your sandbox instead of the live page (which would also mean I'd be filling the holes for you as well! XD Mesmerus (talk) 18:48, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
	For all your work on WP:RIB...or should I save the time and just give you one of these: ? Achowat (talk) 05:25, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

XD Thanks, I appreciate the reassurance that I'm doing good! Will use the ribbon too, as I do just like them, but the barnstar is equally nice! :) Mesmerus (talk) 18:50, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Userbox check. Comment

I just created

This user is a member of the Military Auxiliary Radio System (MARS).
Proudly serving those who serve.

. It is my first userbox, would you please take a look at it when you have a chance to make sure I did not do anything stupid or break anything by accident? Thank you for your time. JBH (talk) 00:05, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

It looks good to me -- they're actually really simple; just a bit of CSS! I'm personally more fond of ones like you've done, which are simple and convey information clearly, but some others like them to be 'prettier' and (as I like to put it) more convoluted. The only thing extra that should be checked is the picture -- if the license doesn't allow for fair use, then it would be challenged (rightfully) later on. Being a ham myself, I'm fairly sure the MARS logo does allow for fair use under it's license, but they could have easily changed that -- I do not watch every license for everything _that_ closely. ;) Mesmerus (talk) 06:14, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for checking. I used the logo from the MARS page here on Wikipedia and it has been released into the public domain. 73 JBH (talk) 16:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:American Dad Logo.svg

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Thanks for uploading File:American Dad Logo.svg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:00, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

It seems as though someone has made a better-looking vector image, and replaced the one I had created on the American Dad! page. Their image is better than mine, however I don't know why they chose to reupload it under a new name, upload it to only the English wiki (whereas I had uploaded mine to wiki commons) -- they would have been better off uploading a new image version to the commons page, and being done altogether (no relinking involved). The new (better) image can be found at File:American_dad_logo.svg; if you could please, merge it as a new version in the commons page since the English Wikipedia isn't the only one that likely draws from the current commons file. Thanks! Mesmerus (talk) 10:36, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

For adding so many ribbons to our collection

		The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
		Thanks for your work on WP:RIB. I, personally, prefer displaying ribbons instead of medals. Your contributions make it easier for editors to chose that aesthetic. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:58, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! I like them better too. I started a few years back, but meatspace got in the way. I've finally carved time out to work on them again though -- its been bugging me ever since as I left it unfinished. I just hope Achowat gets a chance to see when I'm done; he was doing a redesign/cleanup of the page back when I was first working, and I'm sure he'd like to see the page when they're done. He and I were both in agreement that the shadowed/3D ones looked the nicest, sorta realistic.

Still, I do like the idea of the minis being converted to vectors -- I'm not sure the shadowed ones could so easily be converted though. Ease of use was the goal, and still is -- always bothered me how not one column actually has complete coverage; god forbid people to have to mix and match, that would look awful, unless they're all scaled down to 72px. Which is what many do now as a result. Hopefully, soon that won't have to be! Mesmerus (talk) 14:17, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

I also like the way you've used the supertext to link your duplicate awards; I've done similar, as its cleaner, and nicer looking. :) Mesmerus (talk) 14:50, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Pinging

In case you're unaware of it, none of your 3 edits will have given a successful ping. The ping needs to be included in the same edit in which you sign your message. Details are at WP:Notifications#Alerts. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:38, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: Ah, I was not -- I'm old enough to still prefer the talkback template, and have only recently learned of ping & the new notification system! Thanks for the heads up :) Sorta confusing to be honest; I'm still used to having pages on my watchlist just for the heads up through email, and forgetting to add the ping template constantly. Sorta feels like a half-done job; a more appropriate replacement would have been auto-pings based on replies to the same thread, but then the software would have to inspect the comments themselves, which I suppose trades for more CPU time. Mesmerus 📬 📷 21:01, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

September 2018

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:41, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
PS See discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BrownHairedGirl&oldid=861696473#Please_refrain_from_blanking_userpages_because_of_bad_topicons/userboxes.
Note that of your 997 edits at the time of the block, only 12 were to articles. Over half of your edits are to your own userpages, which is classic WP:NOTHERE conduct. You were asked to stop making drama over attempts to mitigate the damage caused inadvertently by your userpages, but instead you chose to demand that others clean up the problems caused by your wholly unproductive userpage. I am happy to help productive editors clean up inadvertent problems, but not to spend my time cleaning up after editors whose main interest is their own homepage. You have already made more edits in complaining about this than you have made to articles in the ten years since you created your account. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:59, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

This user's unblock request is on hold because the reviewer is waiting for a comment by the blocking administrator.

Mesmerus (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Blocking administrator: BrownHairedGirl (talk)

Reviewing administrator: AGK [•] 20:10, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Request reason:

As you can see from here, my constructive attempt to be helpful was construed as wrong, and I have been improperly accused of WP:NOTHERE, when my primary WP:NNH interests of participating at WP:RIBBON to further my photo/design skills (since that proves beneficial to me) is focusing on a niche topic, which BrownHairedGirl considers unworthy, do not constitute a global ban. I am entitled to express my civil opinion, even if BrownHairedGirl considers it unpopular. I rather think Admins should be those best embodying WP:5P. Especially WP:5P4, which I feel BrownHairedGirl failed at, and rather than start a civil discussion or take it to WP:ANI, chose to use the easy powers they have and simply silence me. Rather unfriendly, rude, and a clear violation of WP:CIVIL. Further worth noting that once again, your insistance that article edits are the only true indicator of a person's intentions of editing is rather funny, since WP:NNH rules that out. I am entitled to work on edits I consider worthwhile, which have been, admitedly, about half at WP:RIBBON, and then half on my own userpages, putting those ribbons up, because I like the wall of pictures considering the time I spent on them collectively or individually. That still doesn't give an Admin an excuse to invoke a ban, simply because they think themselves mightier than others. I will not respond to this any further; I have meatspace matters to attend to, and clearly a non-partisan delegation needs to review this. I only hope that I can continue with the edits I consider meaningful, as it was a good way to help contribute and improve my proto/design skills. Also thought I should include a non-partisian tool for revewing my contributions, as all the images are uploaded to commons, and not the English Wikipedia, as I'm told that makes them much more license-friendly for cross-projects/sites to make use of. https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia/Mesmerus

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{{unblock reviewed|1=As you can see from here, my constructive attempt to be helpful was construed as wrong, and I have been improperly accused of WP:NOTHERE, when my primary WP:NNH interests of participating at WP:RIBBON to further my photo/design skills (since that proves beneficial to me) is focusing on a niche topic, which BrownHairedGirl considers unworthy, do not constitute a global ban. I am entitled to express my civil opinion, even if BrownHairedGirl considers it unpopular. I rather think Admins should be those best embodying WP:5P. Especially WP:5P4, which I feel BrownHairedGirl failed at, and rather than start a civil discussion or take it to WP:ANI, chose to use the easy powers they have and simply silence me. Rather unfriendly, rude, and a clear violation of WP:CIVIL. Further worth noting that once again, your insistance that article edits are the only true indicator of a person's intentions of editing is rather funny, since WP:NNH rules that out. I am entitled to work on edits I consider worthwhile, which have been, admitedly, about half at WP:RIBBON, and then half on my own userpages, putting those ribbons up, because I like the wall of pictures considering the time I spent on them collectively or individually. That still doesn't give an Admin an excuse to invoke a ban, simply because they think themselves mightier than others. I will not respond to this any further; I have meatspace matters to attend to, and clearly a non-partisan delegation needs to review this. I only hope that I can continue with the edits I consider meaningful, as it was a good way to help contribute and improve my proto/design skills. Also thought I should include a non-partisian tool for revewing my contributions, as all the images are uploaded to commons, and not the English Wikipedia, as I'm told that makes them much more license-friendly for cross-projects/sites to make use of. https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia/Mesmerus|decline={{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed|1=As you can see from here, my constructive attempt to be helpful was construed as wrong, and I have been improperly accused of WP:NOTHERE, when my primary WP:NNH interests of participating at WP:RIBBON to further my photo/design skills (since that proves beneficial to me) is focusing on a niche topic, which BrownHairedGirl considers unworthy, do not constitute a global ban. I am entitled to express my civil opinion, even if BrownHairedGirl considers it unpopular. I rather think Admins should be those best embodying WP:5P. Especially WP:5P4, which I feel BrownHairedGirl failed at, and rather than start a civil discussion or take it to WP:ANI, chose to use the easy powers they have and simply silence me. Rather unfriendly, rude, and a clear violation of WP:CIVIL. Further worth noting that once again, your insistance that article edits are the only true indicator of a person's intentions of editing is rather funny, since WP:NNH rules that out. I am entitled to work on edits I consider worthwhile, which have been, admitedly, about half at WP:RIBBON, and then half on my own userpages, putting those ribbons up, because I like the wall of pictures considering the time I spent on them collectively or individually. That still doesn't give an Admin an excuse to invoke a ban, simply because they think themselves mightier than others. I will not respond to this any further; I have meatspace matters to attend to, and clearly a non-partisan delegation needs to review this. I only hope that I can continue with the edits I consider meaningful, as it was a good way to help contribute and improve my proto/design skills. Also thought I should include a non-partisian tool for revewing my contributions, as all the images are uploaded to commons, and not the English Wikipedia, as I'm told that makes them much more license-friendly for cross-projects/sites to make use of. https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia/Mesmerus|accept=Accept reason here ~~~~}}

Comment by blocking admin

@AGK: you asked for a fuller explanation of my actions, so here goes.

I was clearing the backlog in Special:WantedCategories. Per WP:REDNOT, a redlinked category is always an error; such category entries shoukd be corrected or rmeoved, or the cat created.

In this case I found that two of the categories were populated solely by the page User:Mesmerus. I spent about ten minutes trying to figure out which templates might be causing the problem, but found that there was such convoluted nest of templates that it could many take hours to unravel. In cleaning up such categories, I have often noticed that the proliferaton and complexity of userbox usage by an editor can correlate inversely with encyclopedic contribution, and when I examined Mesmerus's contribs I saw a very extreme example of that: only 12 mainspace edits in ten years, and over half of total edits were to their own nest of userpages.

So any effort I put into helping unravel that would not be helping a productive editor; it would be helping an editor whose prime focus is on his homepage to unravel the consequences of that WP:NOTHERE focus.

I therefore blanked the userpage, leaving Mesmerus to sort it out.

The subsequent comments by Mesmerus confirmed my hunch. Mesmerus demanded more of my time to unravel the consequences of their own homepage-making.

If an editor chooses to make no encyclopedic contribution we don't block them for that, so long as they do no harm. But when a non-contributing editor they insist on making a drama out of the problems arising from their sole focus on homepage-making, then they become a net burden on the community.

I was saddened but unsurprised by Mesmerus's unblock request. Its prime focus is Mesmerus's determination to further my photo/design skills ... and their personal development is not about building an encyclopedia. It's an assertion of WP:NOTHERE priority.

Similarly, Mesmerus's demand that clearly a non-partisan delegation needs to review this is extraordinary: an editor who doesn't build encyclopedic content wants a whole delegation to take to time to review whether they have been adequately facilitated?

The underlying problem here was a v obscure but ultimately fairly simple technical issue which it turns out that Mesmerus did indeed know how to fix. There are about a hundred new entries each day in Special:WantedCategories; keeping on top of them is a big job. I always, as a matter of priority, devote some time to unravelling categories which actually help navigate articles, finding the correct category or creating a new one. It often involves a whole missing chunk of category tree, and can take quite a chunk of time. I do that because it benefits the encyclopedia.

However, there is no benefit to Wikipedia as a whole in assisting a non-productive editor in maintaining their homepage, so in such cases I take quicker steps: the shrtest route to stop the page populating the redlinked category, which may be removing the cat entry, rmeoving a malformed userbox, or in extremis blanbking the page. (I v rarely blank; it is rarely needed, But it rare to see quite such a convoluted userpage).

I would not strongly object to the unblocking of Mesmerus if they give an assurance that they will stop complaining about their bloated homepage being blanked when it causes problems which cannot be reasonably fixed in a short period of time by an experienced editor who lacks intimate knowledge of the homepage-makers's nested template logic.

But I wouldn't support it either. AGK, you and I have already each given Mesmerus more of our time today than Mesmerus has given to encyclopedic content in the ten years since their acount was created. What would en.wp gain by unblocking? More homepage building? En.wp does not exist to further annyone's design skills. -BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:51, 29 September 2018 (UTC)